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Diff locks for 2003 Disco
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:43 pm
by Captain INSANO
i wanted to use ARB airlockers on my 03 disco/buggy build up but cloughy has told me it cant be done - scratch that idea. also i have been told that there is a centre diff actuator that can be fitted, but im unsure if this will have the desired effect - ie totally locked f+r diffs, or does it work in the sameway that the "diff lock" does/doesnt work on my 06 prado ( i think it only engages LSD in rear diff? )
anyone got an ideas on how to lock my diffs without welding centres?
thanks
Capt INSANO
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:49 pm
by TuffRR
Not sure why you can't use airlockers in an 03 disco? I assume you are using the axles from this vehicle? If so shouldn't be a problem - however if it is going to be a buggy i would question why you would use these as opposed to something that is not made of cheese.
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 12:54 pm
by Slunnie
RD56 Airlockers are the part. Maxi do axles and for the CV's, well, you'd better be sitting down for the price.
For the CDL, if the transfer case doesn't have one, then you will need to replace the LT230 with one that has one.
Re: Diff locks for 2003 Disco
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:38 pm
by cloughy
Captain INSANO wrote:i wanted to use ARB airlockers on my 03 disco/buggy build up but cloughy has told me it cant be done - scratch that idea.
thanks
Capt INSANO
Nah I said i couldn't get you any second handies, Thats why a asked you to call, its easier to discuss that way, instead of through SMS
I also wanted to talk to you about retro-fittind an earlier LT230 front snout to your transfer, but you didn't call or PM
As Slunnie has mentioned, it can be done, easily
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:02 pm
by Reddo
Geez this sounds very interesting. Must admit I don't know a lot 'bout D2's and the mods that can be done - which I guess must be able to be, given the UK boys sem to manage it.
Keep us informed on progress...please....
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:46 am
by Slunnie
I think the Aus and US guys are are at the pointy end for D2 development.
In the US they're already converting, swapping axles, big tyres and developing the go hard suspension kits - although in my opinion they are not very well developed in many cases.
Australia are the benchmark for D2 driveline developments and the odd camper and ute conversions. The Dakkar Bowler's use D2 driveline with Maxi internals. AFAIK Maxi are the only ones that do HD CV's for the D2.
Diff Locks
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:44 am
by stinger
My 2003 Disco (updated Series 2) has ARB Lockers front and rear with the factory certre diff lock.
So yes it can definately be done, I think ours was one of the first to be done as ARB had some initial trouble fitting them (must be some slight differeneces to the earlier D2s.
Cheers,
Stinger
Disco for touring and 80 for playing hard....
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:52 am
by Slunnie
No, they're the same diff as the normal rover type. The problem is that ARB has marked in their books that the late model ETC axles are to run the RD57 locker which is designed for the diff used behind the Rover type 4.6V8 and the Rover type defender diff. We never saw the D2 with the 4.6 and so that locker assembles up fine in the 3rd member, but will not fit into the housing due to the flange size. I would bet that the RD57 was returned and the RD56 fitted into your Disco.
Apologies Cloughy
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:33 pm
by Captain INSANO
Sorry Mate !! I obviously misunderstood you. Apologies. So the diffs are cheese? not much point locking cheese!!!!!!! anyone done diff conversions? what did you use?
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:57 pm
by Slunnie
I don't know of anybody in Aus thats done it. The guys in the states are doing the swaps - Dana60's I think. If it were me doing it locally, I'd be doing LC60's as they have big diffs, strong axles and they can be built easily.
Actually, Greg Davis has turfed the Dana60's and gone Portals
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490420
Re: Apologies Cloughy
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:44 pm
by cloughy
Captain INSANO wrote:Sorry Mate !! I obviously misunderstood you. Apologies. So the diffs are cheese? not much point locking cheese!!!!!!! anyone done diff conversions? what did you use?
Captain INSANO wrote:Cloughy - sorry for the misunderstanding!!! Can you replace the snout on the transfer case for one with a CDL without changing the complete diff? thanks for your help.
Thats cool hope you don't mind me quoting you PM, but it'll give everyone a chance to reply
To be honest i've never gone anywhere near retrofitting the snout of an LT230, to a D2, although i can't see why not, anyone else???
Would be a good thing though, getting the factory difflock lever and all
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:17 am
by ashtrans
Slunnie wrote: The Dakkar Bowler's use D2 driveline with Maxi internals. AFAIK Maxi are the only ones that do HD CV's for the D2.
most Bowlers use either ARB's or Truetrac's, often pegged,
are Maxi making new DII CV's or putting a band around them like the 2522's ?
cloughy wrote: To be honest i've never gone anywhere near retrofitting the snout of an LT230, to a D2, although i can't see why not, anyone else???
Would be a good thing though, getting the factory difflock lever and all
you need to change the front casing including the diff lock mech and the front output shaft, fairly easy to do, then you can fit the factory linkage, we sell quite a few of these,
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:29 am
by uninformed
the maxi-drive upgrade uses a 606665 cv, new stub shaft and axles, made from hytuf and a ring pressed over the cv.
i think the ring is made from 4140 (not 100% sure)
the cv's come with a new slightly larger rubber boot that is also stronger than original.
and maxi-drive has supplied a number of bolwer vehicles with complete axle assemblies.
cheers, Serg
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:31 am
by cloughy
Cheers dave, i thought it'd be much the same, not many people volunteer their D2 for something that MAY work, so i've never had the opputunity to try it
Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:46 am
by Slunnie
ashtrans wrote:Slunnie wrote: The Dakkar Bowler's use D2 driveline with Maxi internals. AFAIK Maxi are the only ones that do HD CV's for the D2.
most Bowlers use either ARB's or Truetrac's, often pegged,
are Maxi making new DII CV's or putting a band around them like the 2522's ?
Sorry, you're right. They are the axles/CV's.
There have been a few variations since the first batch (as pic) though they are still basically the same. I think he may have changed his source for the CV. The ring is pressed over the CV though.
Posted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:20 am
by ashtrans
thanks very much for the info guys, we are working on a solution but just wondered what else was out there,