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Claw radials vs BFG muds in vic high country and roads

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:14 pm
by hottiemonster
Is there much difference between the claw radials and the BFG mud terrains when it comes to the bush in the vic high country? i dont do that much mud driving but i would probably be keener cause of the tyres. the majority of my driving will be heading for the bush and fourwheel driving as i dont use the car that much on road expect getting to the four wheel driving destination. just wondering if the claws would be fine becasue they seem to have a much more aggressive pattern. the difference is price is only a small amount so it just comes down to the tyre. what is the rough amount of life out of the claws?

THanks

Peter

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:14 pm
by GRIMACE
My mates got claw radials and most of the rest of our 4by crew run BFG muds (cheap arses :rofl: includin myself) and the claw radials were definately a better tyre in my eyes.

I seen them somehow grip acrosways on a very sandy 65 odd degree slope with only marginal tread holding on, the bfg muds wouldnt even begin to grip on almost any angle except straight on.

But the radial claws are not the quietest road tyre..........neither are the BF Muds.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:50 pm
by DaveS3
[quote="AnthonyP"]I seen them somehow grip acrosways on a very sandy 65 odd degree slope]

:? ???? did it roll???

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:33 pm
by Kane
Take a look at the newer style Goodyear wrangler MTR's. They are probly the best radial M/T on the market that won't brake the bank. The wrangler MTR's have broken away from the more traditional M/T design and are much more agresive tread pattern with REAL side-bitters. another thing to keep in mind is that the Micky Thompson radial claw are directional so is your spare going to be for your left or right side of your 4bi?

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:54 pm
by hottiemonster
yeah i know that the claws are directional, but just want to know the off road ability and the on road ability.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:20 pm
by Link
Radial claws are excellent offroad when you're moving in a relatively straight line - far better than BFG Muds.. The down side is the lateral traction is not so great, especially if it's a bit wet (e.g. turning up a muddy slope from a creek bed).. Strangely enough they do hang on well if you're running just the edge of the tyre across the side of a wet rut/slope.. On soft sand they can bury themselves faster than nearly any other tyre.. On road they handle well even in the wet.. They are noisy on the bitumen at low speeds.. They also wear quickly in comparison..

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 6:36 pm
by hottiemonster
so do the claws wear heaps faster than the BFG muds? casue i dont do much road driving unless it is on the way to the bush.

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:38 pm
by Link
I'd say they wear around 30-40% faster than BFG Muds..

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:06 pm
by alki
Baja Claws are much better tyre in mud than any mud tyre.
driving on bitumen shouldn't be a problem if you're used to M/T
At slow speed they are noisier and also vibrate whole car as you can feel each lug getting in contact with the bitumen

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:41 am
by hottiemonster
so i should still get about 50000km out of em. so they are awesome in mud and for the rocky type tracks around vic high country.

they would work well also with a rear arb lokka too?

how much difference is there in tread depth compared to the BFG mud terrain?

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:23 pm
by Red Rover
If you can afford bias ply go for them - cant beat side biters. I have heard that the MTR's are great on rock but not very good in mud. I have only heard this from some mates that have bought them. I don;t know what a 35 inch MTR is worth, probaly about $350 a tyre? I didn't like the new BFG Muds - shockers to keep balanced and the rim protectors pick up the mud easily and the tyre goes flat - been there done that :x . I sold them in the end.

Hope it helps

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:35 pm
by GRIMACE
DaveS3 wrote:
AnthonyP wrote:I seen them somehow grip acrosways on a very sandy 65 odd degree slope]

:? ???? did it roll???


Sorry my description is abit off putting. I ment to say that having one tyre findin sidewall traction to go up on the edge of the track were the muddy would go up abit and the slip back down.
On ACTUAL angle driving the BFGs held better, the Bajas had more sideways action, but once again there sidewall grip seemed alot better.

P.S. Sorry if I made anyone think that the would hold a whole car at a 65degree slope without the car rollin :lol: DONT TRY THIS AT HOME :D