Outer Limits 4x4 Board

wondering if any1 could supply some pics or links to some Gu utes with an exo cage.

thanks luke

http://www.offroadimages.com.au/4x4even ... p?album=90


Dan

thanks Dan, i have seen this Gu and love the bar work.

but was hoping for some pics of one with a little more of the panels on it. my Gu is not cut up so i have to work around all the panels.

luke

There is a GU tray floating around Coldstream Vic every so often with an Exo, Looks a bit more road going than the one above.

If I see it, ill grab the camera and take a photo.

Looks good though.

backyard_racer wrote:wondering if any1 could supply some pics or links to some Gu utes with an exo cage.

thanks luke

out of curiousity why do want an exo?

Also check out faithbilly GU which he has pics of (he makes the FAT bars)

his GU has an exo on it

the man reason for the exo is i have a problem when i go 4 wheelin, that if i want to get up a track i will regardless of any damage sustained to the car. i think it is a blood rush to the head or somethin.

i have just spent over 3k on reaparing all the previous damage, and have just brought twin lockers and installed 3" lift so i will be hitting a lot of the harder tracks i never did before.

so the exo i think would be a good investment as i my panels take second place.


i have seen an exo GU at midas in lilydale before but that was once and no camera.


luke

Fathillbilly's truck

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=6140

There was an update some where with his bar work finished but can't find it now.

... then why not take this opportunity since you have just paid $3000 to repair damage, to grow up and drive with your brain instead of your foot?

Exo's wont protect everything still.

BECAUSE ITS NO FUN !

bogged wrote:... then why not take this opportunity since you have just paid $3000 to repair damage, to grow up and drive with your brain instead of your foot?

Exo's wont protect everything still.

i agree with bogged on this.

Learn to drive or deal with panel damage, you will be cop bait more than ever and if you worried about repairing that much panels get a gq be alot cheaper XO wont do fuck all only in a roll over however proper built 6 cage will do the job for a roll over.

The GU at midas lilydal i could only image it would be faithbilly as he has been doing bar work for Rohan on his middy.

geez i don't know whether i can grow up any more than i have.

from looking at the thread i think it was Fathillbilly ute i seen. very nice.

don't wont a full cage and the exo is not in case of a roll over. it is purely to protect panels. i understand it will not protect every panel but thought that it would ba better than the side rails from arb.

i don't know whether i could go back to a Gq after a Gu - i think the panel damage would still be there.

luke

weeman wrote: XO wont do ***** all only in a roll over however proper built 6 cage will do the job for a roll over.

You sure about this

weeman wrote:

bogged wrote:... then why not take this opportunity since you have just paid $3000 to repair damage, to grow up and drive with your brain instead of your foot?

Exo's wont protect everything still.

i agree with bogged on this.

Learn to drive or deal with panel damage, you will be cop bait more than ever and if you worried about repairing that much panels get a gq be alot cheaper XO wont do ***** all only in a roll over however proper built 6 cage will do the job for a roll over.

and here we have 2 people with no idea they are the type of people that belive if u break a stock part your driving wrong, there opinion isnt woth a pinch of goat shhit.

I think u will be very happy with the protection a good exo will provide

Breaking a stock part is one thing i have broken plenty of stuff on my GU (rear diff,axles.tie rods.alloy rims etc) and i put it places a lot of guys in old shitboxs woodnt go but i have never bent body panels i think bogged may have a point to some degree

jeep97tj wrote:there opinion isnt woth a pinch of goat shhit.

worth just as much as yours or anyone elses...

yep reads worse than what i ment it to be

What i ment was if your bending panels, enjoy what u do and a exo would make your 4x4 trips more fun and less costly than your mad not to do it, no matter what anyone else thinks.

Exo's are for comp trucks not for vehicles driven on the road.

GUJohnno wrote:Exo's are for comp trucks not for vehicles driven on the road.

You sure about this

jeep97tj wrote: and here we have 2 people with no idea they are the type of people that belive if u break a stock part your driving wrong, there opinion isnt woth a pinch of goat shhit.

I think u will be very happy with the protection a good exo will provide

What would you know, about my knowledge ? I doubt this guy has stock parts on his GU anyway.

I still dont believe an EXO is a viable option, a 6pt internal cage will be far stronger, however this guy seems more concerned about his body panels than his safety.

EXO look stupid, attract the cops, the additional weight of them will change the characteristics of the vehicle.

Also ask yourself why dont any of the winch challenge vehicles have an XO cage for the same reasons above.

But by all means if someone wants an xo cage do it, i dont see the point and i would rather spend the money on a decent 6pt cage, so one truck in forward flip an navrun and due to the internal cage built so well, the body panels held together.

weeman wrote:
I still dont believe an EXO is a viable option, a 6pt internal cage will be far stronger, however this guy seems more concerned about his body panels than his safety.

But by all means if someone wants an xo cage do it, i dont see the point and i would rather spend the money on a decent 6pt cage, so one truck in forward flip an navrun and due to the internal cage built so well, the body panels held together.

Take a look at the above exo. It has 3 main hoops over the body all of which are attached to the chassis (bang, 6-point cage right thur), plus if you want to count it, the front clip is also welded to the chassis adding an extra two mounting points.

So, at the very least, it is at least as strong as a 6-point internal cage (an exo is much easier to triangulate) as well as providing a much higher degree of panel protection (take no notice of the the door ). An exo can also be made removable if it is not required all the time. Yes, internals can be made like this but it is heaps more difficult.

I dont know anything about what you know but an exo can easily be made as strong if not stronger than an internal providing its done right.

If you want any proof of the safety factor in an exo, have a look through 83lux's members thread. His exo recently saved him from serious injury or worse when a tree came through his windscreen so you might want to re-evaluate your uneducated statement regarding their lack of safety. You can also PM redzook and ask him how many times his exo has saved his truck (and his neck) in rollovers. Ditto for Gonads, Chopzuxi, Rocbox etc.etc.

Plus I think it looks killer.

v840 wrote:Take a look at the above exo.

1) for one it didnt protect the doors.

2. of course if you cover every part of the panel you will protect it, but why not have a buggy? then you have the extra weight to start with..

and

3.. the cops would love you in suburbia, you would never get to drive past a bacon without gettin picked up...

From memory Redzook drove his tin top round for ages with an exo.

Layto....

lay80n wrote:From memory Redzook drove his tin top round for ages with an exo.

Layto....

yep and you can get them engineered to my understanding!!

evanstaniland wrote:

lay80n wrote:From memory Redzook drove his tin top round for ages with an exo.

Layto....

yep and you can get them engineered to my understanding!!

What, exo?? No no no, this is my "Ladder rack"

evanstaniland wrote:

lay80n wrote:From memory Redzook drove his tin top round for ages with an exo.

Layto....

yep and you can get them engineered to my understanding!!

You dont need to, much like bullbars if there are no sharp edges or brackets that will hurt, maim, dismember or lance a pedestrian then its all good.

An internal rollcage you need to engineer because of occupant protection in an accident. If you have a bar in the wrong place you can do yourself a great mischief if your head hits it in an accident for arguments sake.

A properly built exo will do just as good a job in a rollover as an internal cage will. The added bonus is that it also protects the bodywork.

If your building either cage the number one priority should be protecting people, not the bodywork.

I agree with above post.

If everyone says XO cages are so safe whats stopping the body crushing the ocupants? should there be a hard enough roll and the XO brakes or the body gets pushed via an obscure rock?

weeman wrote: If everyone says XO cages are so safe whats stopping the body crushing the ocupants? should there be a hard enough roll and the XO brakes or the body gets pushed via an obscure rock?

Thats true but the same could happen with an internal
If an Internal broke in a rollover you'd be just as boned.

I dont understand why you keep intimating that internals are so much better than exos. They both have their pros and cons but your insistence on saying that exos are shit is baffling. They have been proven in comps and hardcore wheeling so many times its not funny and on the merits of their design alone they have to protect the body panels more than an internal.

I understand you may not like them personally but chiming in and saying they are crap without any evidence just makes you sound ignorant. BTW I dont mean any offence by this Im just curious why you have such a negative view on them?

bogged wrote:1) for one it didnt protect the doors.

Which is why I wrote:

take no notice of the the door

in my reply, but thanks for contributing

I aint bitching at anyone or dis approving of your opinion, so please dont get the wrong idea...

However if xo are so strong why doesnt everyone use them in motorsport,

i.e. rally cars, high speed motor sport in general know one uses them..

Most engineers down in melbourne dont support them.

A mate on his gu with a custom bar was pulled over by the cops and told his bar Protruding past the body work, and had to get a minor road worthy certificate.

For rock crawling stuff yeh an xo is probably ideal as your chance of rolling are far greater however they are done at lower speeds.

Any how this guy is more concerned about his body work, but a high speed roll over i would feel more comfortable in an internal cage then an xo, as i saw the results of darren green middy when it rolled 7 times the cage saved his life and kept the structure of the cabin, an xo would have buckled under that many rolls.

Can an exo provide enough diagonal resistance in the line of the B-pillar in the event of a rollover? I don't think they can, hence why we use internals.

Internals require at least one diagonal brace in that plane, which can’t be achieved with an exo. The exception to this is when the exo is on a single cab vehicle and the diagonal is placed in the b-pillar plane immediately behind the cab. But to be effective, the b-pillar hoop needs to be closer to the occupants than can be realistically achieved with this arrangement.

weeman wrote: However if xo are so strong why doesnt everyone use them in motorsport,

i.e. rally cars, high speed motor sport in general know one uses them..

Come on mate use your brain, they dont spend major $$ designing body kits and thousands of hours in wind tunnels for the fun of it...

also have u seen how much tube is in a rally car?? u cant get that sort of bracing with a exo but that has nothing to do with the above Q because he is not doing 200km/h through the bush, HE IS 4WDING