Outer Limits 4x4 Board

This is a question for the Subie gurus,

I have a mate with a Subaru Leone 4WD, and he wants to
get a set of rims to take it offroad. Which types of rims fit
Leone 4WDs? and which type of rims are best for clearance?

I've seen smallish (maybe 14") sunrasias on subaru Brumbys before
do these fit on the leone?? What type of tyres can you fit on them?

Thanks guys,
Bart

I assume you mean the L-series (square) wagon. AFAIK the same rims fit them as the MY-series wagon (previous model). Speedie and sunraysia rims (13" or 14" for MY or L series subaru) fit, as well as peugeot 4 stud rims (but don't buy the rims that take metric tyres - you won't be able to buy off-road tyres).

Yeah that's the one, it is an L series sedan.
So I can get L, MY series or Peugot rims?
How can I tell if the Peugot rims are metric or not?

What tyres are good? Just hilux stockers,
or do you need a special sized tyre to fit in the guard.
It runs standard height suspension.

Thanks heaps for your help.

Bart

get a 2inch lift kit as you will have trouble fitting bigger tires without. The lift kit improves the approach, departure and ramp over. If you get a quality kit, they come with wind up strut tops that also increase the diff clearance.

Yeah thats what I told him,

he's considering it, but at the moment its just his
daily driver/thrash thing. It's got a WRX motor
with intercooler, boost, an STi dog-box and a big clutch!
All in a bog-standard leone ST I think it is (with the factory body kit).
And those awesome "square" rims.

He went and did some beach work on the weekend and realised
he does not quite have the clearance. He saw a few other subies
with these rims on and asked me to inquire for him (no PC).

Can he fit the 13"s without a lift? It's OK if they rub a little bit.

Bart

13"s are the standard size, I think he would want 14" which would require a fair bit of cutting on the L series to fit. The bigger the tire, the better as the small tires bog in to quickly on the soft sand.

www.ausubaru.com look on this will find the proper info u need

BTW this is the backyard boys new forum site

EDIT: had an extra .au that wasnt need

link doesn't work for me

hey

there is a company in qld called scorpion offroad who make wheels and lift kits for subarus

for info there is a forum called backyard boys

and the subaru club of qld has lots of info on their site www.subaclub.com i think

o and for any one who thinks that subarus are not good of road heres a pic for you of an icelandic one

I've got some sunrasiers just sitting round if you want them 14" x ? four of them

Cheers Yarno

are the 4 hole ones? if they are then they might fit

I've done a few of these tyre/wheel packages.... Go for the Speedy 14" rims and either a 185 or 195R14 tyre in an all terrain tread. Bridgestone make a few and there are plenty of retreaders that do also... just make sure your up to date on your life insurance policy if you head towards the latter

twinnie wrote:hey

there is a company in qld called scorpion offroad who make wheels and lift kits for subarus

for info there is a forum called backyard boys

and the subaru club of qld has lots of info on their site www.subaclub.com i think

o and for any one who thinks that subarus are not good of road heres a pic for you of an icelandic one

i see your wagon, and raise you this

Yarno,

What were they off? A Subie or similar I presume.
If they are the 4 stud pattern and will fit an L series,
I'll take them them.

Cheers mate,
let me know.

Those subie pics are fat!
Got any more?? How bout' a subie FLEX shot??
C'mon Subie Boys!! Show us what you can do.

Cheers,
Bart

ahah i can't get enough of ANY icelandic car pics... they're all so huge!!

lifted subie v my rig

i'll get a flex shot of our outback when we get it

btw that liberty has been changed since the last time i saw it

and yes the outback will out flex antt's zook

Matt

p.s. antt i see your liberty and rase a mini

Toyo Truck wrote:Yarno,

What were they off? A Subie or similar I presume.
If they are the 4 stud pattern and will fit an L series,
I'll take them them.

Cheers mate,
let me know.

Yep there 4 stud, there were off an 82 subi wagon

They still have tyres on, mostly worn though 195/65's, and just mesured rim width it's 6".

Cheers
Yarno

you need to get the 14x6" 140mm 4 stud pattern in the speedy wheels

which as earlier mentioned is the same as the peugot's

also look out for groovy looking peugot alloy wheels

you will pay upwards of $150 a wheel for the scorpion rims, but they are factory offset. Still a 14x6 though

look at the $50 odd mark for the speedies (desert rat they are listed as)

as far as tyre sizes, if they are standard springs, 195/60's is going to be about the biggest without cutting guards..... if you want to cut some guards and/or put 2" or 3" lift kits in (body lift kits for subies, which essentially drops drivetrain down from body, including engine x-member) then the possibilties are endless!! Also very easy to get ~40mm lift springs to fit with ease. 27x8.5 BFG AT is a popular tyre with a 2" body lift

but yeah, if he isn;t going along that path, just cut a bit of front guard, and squeeze under some 195/65's or similar. also note that speedie rims are offset about 40mm, so will pick up outside of guard easier

any more q's happy to answer.... have a heap of pics and stuff from suby days!!!!

Dan

Yarno,
I'll take them for sure then. Thanks heaps
I'll call my mate and see when he can come and pick them
up from you.

From what your saying Dan, these wheels will fit sweet as with
just a touch of angle grinding on dem front guards!
He will be stoked!
Post up your pics too. I'm printing all these out for him.
You must have a flex shot somewhere!

Another question, can you get an air locker for these?
That would be fun on the streets with a EJ20T!!

Cheers,
Bart

Yarno,
I'll take them for sure then. Thanks heaps
I'll call my mate and see when he can come and pick them
up from you.

From what your saying Dan, these wheels will fit sweet as with
just a touch of angle grinding on dem front guards!
He will be stoked!
Post up your pics too. I'm printing all these out for him.
You must have a flex shot somewhere!

Another question, can you get an air locker for these?
That would be fun on the streets with a EJ20T!!

Cheers,
Bart

Toyo Truck wrote:How can I tell if the Peugot rims are metric or not?

Bart

Peugeot made some rims that are completely metric (i.e. metric diameter - not 13" 14" etc - like 325mm, 350mm). There are only about 2 different makes of (road) tyres you can buy for them. If they are fitted with tyres it will be obvious because they will be something like a 185x65x325 as opposed to a 185x65 R 13.

Yarno,
I have sent you a PM mate.

Cheers,
Bart

hahah!! nah there were never air lockers for them. There are a handful of detroit lockers for them in the country, but goodluck getting a hold of one of these!! plenty of LSD's, and a load of cig specials!!

Dan

Ahhh the ol' CIG-Locks.
Poormans locker!

Oh well. Had to ask.

How long ago did you have your subie Dan?
Got pics of the beast?

Bart

any more q's happy to answer.... have a heap of pics and stuff from suby days!!!!

Ditto. Give your local Subaru club a call, they will be more than happy to help.

BTW 1981 MY82, 2" lift kit, Weber 32/36 DGV carbie, shaved heads (9.4 vs 8.7 comp ratio), twin exhaust pipes to behind the gearbox, Datsun 180 B SSS LSD rear diff and driveshafts (no more torn boots ), 175/75 Avon Mud/snow tyres.

It went.........

Beware with the peugeot wheels......some had a square cut centre making wheel balancing extremely difficult, i ran a couple or early 80's wagons with 2 inch body lift, 14's and welded centres. Actually amazing capabilities for the design of the vehicle. Limited by distributor placement ofcourse!

I assume you mean the L-series (square) wagon. AFAIK the same rims fit them as the MY-series wagon (previous model). Speedie and sunraysia rims (13" or 14" for MY or L series subaru) fit, as well as peugeot 4 stud rims (but don't buy the rims that take metric tyres - you won't be able to buy off-road tyres).

The sunraysia-style rims that Subaru used from the factory are different on the L-series to the MY-series.
The rims from an MY-series won't fit on the rear of the L-series due to the larger brake setup.

Desert Rat rims by Speedy Wheels and the Scorpion Offroad rims both probably have a large enough offset to suit either - I havn't had the chance to compare them side by side.


Another good web site for help/info is http://www.ultimatesubaru.net - there is an archive of repair information, plus a massive forum of world-wide Subaru owners, including the older generation vehicles.