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sway bar? aftermarket?
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:15 am
by tazzazuk
can u get after market sway bars they allow articulation still. or is that point less cause that what they are ment to do? i got mine out at the moment and it seems to sway alot which isn't good at speed on the beach jumping in and out or car tracks?
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:36 am
by lay80n
What rig are we talking about. You can get aftermarket designs, but in reality a swap bar is basically supposed to limit articulation to stop side to side motion. Heaps of rock crawlers run them, but their application is totally different to what you are looking at.
Layto....
Sway bars
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:28 pm
by want33s
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:39 pm
by suzuki boy
On road when i took my sway bar off it didn't make much difference but off road it made alot!
My dad used to have qiuck diconects on his jeep wrangler but as WNAT33S says i havn't seen them for the suzuki's!
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:26 pm
by tazzazuk
i have a 95 serria with 235/75 on f100 rims.(small lift with oldman emu) but i took it off and now it hard to go fast on the beach don't mind body roll on the road cause the road is predictable. i just wanted like a after maket one to still allow articulation but reduce the on road sway but that i guess is not what they are design for.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:42 pm
by fool_injected
Some time ago Frank (Bitsaremissin in the Mitsi sect) made some swaybar articulators
Supose it is similar to a airlocker.
You cut your bar in half insert one of theses and away you go
With air on the halves of the bar are disconnected, air off connected solid
Think the were around $300 ea, but this was quiet some time ago
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... rticulator
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:56 pm
by tazzazuk
how do u know the pin is going to line up perfect? i could mak that manual one that is easy.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:09 pm
by fool_injected
BIIK (Buggered if I know)
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:17 pm
by lay80n
I guess that when the air is applied it forces the pin through to lock them. When the holes line up as the suspension comes back to even the pin slides in and locks them till it is released???
I dont find hardly any difference on the beach or road. Nothing dangerous. That is on 32's. SPOA with soft flat springs. Basically swaybars are designed to fight articulation, so it will be a compramise either way you go.
Layto....
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:30 pm
by want33s
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:22 am
by tazzazuk
wat sought of beaches do u drive on lay80n. our beaches can get quite ruff and unpredictable especially for a zuk cause they never fit in the car tracks.. with that sway bar disconect do any of u know wat size pin u should use for a sierra?i think a 8mm pin (5/16) it shouldn't weeken it to much...? it looks like one end is just grub screwed and the other rotats apart from when it turns
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:04 am
by lay80n
I live in Newcastle, so drive regually on Belmont South and Stockton beach. Have driven on many different beaches up and down the coast though. For the disconnects, look at the designs used on the jeeps, and just copy them. Or simillar designs for patrols and cruiser.
In the auto design, it apears that the swaybar is cut in half, and each half goes into an end of the atriculator and is clamped in it. By allowing each end of the articulator to rotate, or clamping them to each other, wouild provide the disconeecting action. Best to PM Frank (bitsamissin)
Layto....
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:26 am
by tazzazuk
i live in esperance western australia some our beach are like 30km long with big granit headlands in between. some weekend we drive 70km or more on beaches. but with that diconnect i was think making one half realy thight (tap fit) and gub screw and the other side spin fit with a 8mm pin to kock it off and a greese nipple(to stop squeaking if there is any).
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:35 pm
by suzuki boy
All the jeep one had was a the existing bit of the sway bar top(Long straight bit that parralel with the fron to the car!) with 2 solid bit pointing to the ground with holes drilled in it and a bit at the bottom where it attaches with another two solid bit with a hole drilled in them then just a bit of tube with holes at the top and bottom then just clip them on off!
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:58 pm
by fool_injected
suzuki boy wrote:All the jeep one had was a the existing bit of the sway bar top(Long straight bit that parralel with the fron to the car!) with 2 solid bit pointing to the ground with holes drilled in it and a bit at the bottom where it attaches with another two solid bit with a hole drilled in them then just a bit of tube with holes at the top and bottom then just clip them on off!
You mean like this but with removeable links
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:08 pm
by suzuki boy
Yeah pretty much!
