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Beware of user 1418ooo. (sells brakes and pads)

http://feedback.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAP ... id=1418ooo


Slow to send, avoids email contact then blames you for his delays! hah
Now I know why my mate with the GU stopped buying sh1t on there...

This bloke on ebay burnt 2 patrol owners with similar parts...
Gave 2 different stories too... And we baught them at a similar time!
Straight out lier! Also reckons I took my time to pay? LOL instant payment..... Anyway...


Also be careful with the CV joint on there for $49 each, it is not EXACTLY the same length from groove to groove for locking circlips.... Slight mods to hub clutch were needed...
But the actual quality was good, just a hassel to get it fitted right.
(N.B. Due to complaints I should point out that this is for my diff. It appears to be standard, but like all things, you never really know unless you baught it new. The old and new CV's are different, but steve hobzee has sold over 460 of these CV's with only 2 defects, my ones, so there you go, helps to actually talk to the sellers, if they are willing to talk )
This problem occurs when the CV is not matching for the specified diff up to the exact model number.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/CV-joint-4x4-Nis ... dZViewItem


Just looking out for you guys! As we all should!

If you have any others to be aware of, list them here

you take chances buying a lot of stuff on ebay..... luckily i haven't been stung yet.....

same answer as in the other thread with the same post.

Don't get me wrong, they are great quality (THE CV JOINTS), but needed to file down the hub clutch about 1mm to get the circlip on at the mechanics.

The problem was that with the new bearings fitted, the cv outer near the 1/2 sphere would be not so compatible with the thrust washer, what is needed either: a. File hub clutch, b. change/round off the thrust washer, c. change CV joint.

(And the thrust washer only goes one way)

Diff = Front std diff, 88 petrol 4.2
Might be different story for a diesel model.

Why do you see the need to post this in two sections?

beretta wrote:Why do you see the need to post this in two sections?

Was in wrong section

Man, this is a good idea.

They should build something like this into ebay, a way that buyers can leave feedback about sellers to warn other potential buyers.

Definately agree due to dogy arseholes on ebay, but wondered why posted in two sections.

beretta wrote:Definately agree due to dogy arseholes on ebay, but wondered why posted in two sections.

Yeah sorry about the double post, still am getting used to this!

lolergram wrote:Don't get me wrong, they are great quality (THE CV JOINTS), but needed to file down the hub clutch about 1mm to get the circlip on at the mechanics.

The problem was that with the new bearings fitted, the cv outer near the 1/2 sphere would be not so compatible with the thrust washer, what is needed either: a. File hub clutch, b. change/round off the thrust washer, c. change CV joint.

(And the thrust washer only goes one way)

Diff = Front std diff, 88 petrol 4.2
Might be different story for a diesel model.

But your still happy to rubbish him first, and im sure it was a mistake posting in 2 sections.
Then you had your mechanic fit them, Perhaps they were a direct bolt in and thats the story they gave you

chimpboy wrote:Man, this is a good idea.

They should build something like this into ebay, a way that buyers can leave feedback about sellers to warn other potential buyers.

pongo wrote: Then you had your mechanic fit them, Perhaps they were a direct bolt in and thats the story they gave you

I was called in by the mechanic and asked what I wanted to do, he showed me what the problem was and that was it, made a decision... 1mm is not much, but still needed to get the circlip on.

Rubbishing? I said it as it was.
Good quality, different to standard. Thats all there is.


Rubbishing would be: Don't buy it, yeah it may look good and work well, but ain't worth the hassel.

Bit different

LOL @ feedback comment.
Sometimes you leave feedback on ebay before you install things, whick may take weeks/months whatever. On inspection, the parts looked A1... However the fitting was a PITA already without the slight difference in CV's!

easy guys on d newbie

dont jump all over this guy just because you may know hobsee or whoever.

all he did was give you first hand experience of what happened to him

he may have been unreasonable, he may not even know how to fit it.

waiting 29 days for delivery of brakepads is outright unreasonable from an ebay SHOP.

and the CV's, if the meechanic had to trim some off to fit, thats a reasonable problem. imagine trying to do that in a boghole somewhere.


but its no different a post to the 45678 others bagging out ebay sellers

None of the others should appear here either...
It's not fair to say be wary of someone because of a one sided isolated opinion!
Where does he get off bagging people like that and where do you get off defending him.
You can't come on here, a public forum, and spout defametry comments without following the "Documented" procedures for dispute resolution. Maybe the CV supplied wasn't a correct fit. What about the 45768 CV's that have been supplied and DID fit....... Was there an attempt made to contact the seller to rectify the problem... If you brought it from repco you'd take it back, same applies.
It's one thing to bring to our attention the problems faced in the incident, it's an entirely different thing to pass blame on the supplier and warn others to be WARY of the seller in a public forum whom they support and are supported by.
If the supplier had been notified and told the buyer to p$%s off then i'll retract my comment with a humble appology.
If no attempt was made to rectify the issue with the supplier then i'd expect to see a humble appology from the complaintant to the supplier of the product....
Agree???????????

Cheers, Dan

That's fair enough

I suppose both are isolated incidents. As is everything else in life ...

But documenting the happenings of any event that are prooven to be true at the time of the event, are not defamation or what you know as slander(sic) -Written defamation is actually called libel. (Say I called you a dirty tip-rat on this forum, and if it is not true that you aren't a rat and/or dirty then its libel defamation.)

I worked for a law firm where we treaded this line very finely, never crossing it, that is actually how we would catch a lot of guys out, get them worked up, to say something that we can bounce back off. Anger/emotion is a powerful tool which bends but can also be bent

You make your own asumptions and interpretations of text provided. I can see how you would read the title, skim over the text and see something of interest, read deeper after linking a product with a seller that you may personally know. Then, you make your own comments based upon that interpretation.

But one thing does always prevail and that is factual evidence. Everything else is not worth the paper it is written on (or screen).

Where patterns emerge, that is what is interesting. The seller of the discs and pads did have several occasions where the same 'incident' (sic) did occur. So providing the link to his feedback and the stating of an event that actually happened, you can make your own assumptions.

I would like to see how many people here, after greasing up the CV's, fitting them and having them mismatch by 1mm to the standard would actually take them back. The problem was solved with filling down of the hub clutch which maybe took I don't know, 1 hour to complete and re-fit the hub, wheels etc.

I will let Steve know about the CV's, that is a good point.


Free speech, don't like it? Move to Cuba :

(P.S. No effort was made to recitify the brake problem. How can you rectify time lost.)

Lucky Patrol's are so reliable...

Or there would be a lot of owners out there not wanting help when it is really needed.

I'll keep my observations to myself next time.

He is on a public forum and is allowed to state problems that he has faced.
He did not "rubbish" anyone and stated to look out. Maybe some1 else will buy one of these CV's after reading this post and grind it down before he gets stuck in the shit out bush.....who knows.

Stop being so dam defensive

not nocking hobzee at all but i bet you if he wasnt a popular member of this forum and someone posted exactly the same post about his products noone would be sticking up for him andsaying not to comment about people like this

not saying the product is wrong (ive bought from him a few times with no dramas. and there has been many posts about these cv's on here in the past with noone mentioning having to mod them) nor that people should post up on here about things like this rubbishing someone untill they have tried to sort it out thru the normal avenues.

lolergram. as im sure u have noticed hobzee is a member of this forum and i sugest you take the oppertunity to pm him (as you didnt have an oppertunity to clear this up after your transaction) and state your case, or atleast let him kno this is here so he can give you or us a reply. then post up here how the problem is resolved

i doubt anyone even his best mates would be knocking you right now if you had given him the chance to fix your problems before telling the world about them

Thats just rubbish.. There is no rubbishing

It just states what has happened, the parts didn't match up. Read above.

Steve has been contacted, the old and new CV's are different for whatever reason. Different diff? Different joints? Different CVs? Who knows... The fact is, they are different.

That's all there is. If you can't read, try harder. Again, read above.

I don't have a problem with Steve. That's what people are missing. This is no direct attack on Steve or his products, if you can't disconnect that emotional feeling from the fact, well then, I can't help you.

For the poor guy that nearly forgets to take a file along with him and busts a CV out in the bog, he will be happy for has read this as he knows what is wrong.

I say: "On your bike" if you can't understand. I hope I am not communicating with nuffies[/u]

lolergram wrote:I say: "On your bike" if you can't understand. I hope I am not communicating with nuffies[/u]

Geeeez dude.. speaking of nuffies!!!!

Firstly bang your leagal temrs up your ....
You're missing the point here bud.... The point is that regardless of the outcome you posted a thread on here warning people of a product fault that you knew nothing about. You had NOT contacted the supplier. You had NO idea why the problem existed. You had NO idea wether or not the supplier was willing to rectify it, yet you warned every body that the products he was supplying would not fit...
That's were the problem lies my friend. You made a statement WITHOUT enough evidence or information.
Tell me mister legal guru, if the matter went to court that the product was faulty, would YOUR ONE OFF experience be enough to satisfy a magistrate that the batch of 45639 CV's would all have the same fault???????????????

It's all there in OUTERLIMITS black and white bozo... you stated his products were faulty yet you had not nearly enough evidence or proof.. Call it libel or defametry or the starship f%^*&ng enterprise, i don't care, It's still wrong and NOT how we should operate. You appear to me to be a trouble maker.
Now do me a favour, Don't waste your time reply to this but rather invest your energy into thinking of something positive you can post on outers and try and try and help us change our opinion of you.

Cheers, Dan...

Ruffy wrote:

lolergram wrote:I say: "On your bike" if you can't understand. I hope I am not communicating with nuffies[/u]

Geeeez dude.. speaking of nuffies!!!!

Firstly bang your leagal temrs up your ....
You're missing the point here bud.... The point is that regardless of the outcome you posted a thread on here warning people of a product fault that you knew nothing about. You had NOT contacted the supplier. You had NO idea why the problem existed. You had NO idea wether or not the supplier was willing to rectify it, yet you warned every body that the products he was supplying would not fit...
That's were the problem lies my friend. You made a statement WITHOUT enough evidence or information.
Tell me mister legal guru, if the matter went to court that the product was faulty, would YOUR ONE OFF experience be enough to satisfy a magistrate that the batch of 45639 CV's would all have the same fault???????????????

It's all there in OUTERLIMITS black and white bozo... you stated his products were faulty yet you had not nearly enough evidence or proof.. Call it libel or defametry or the starship f%^*&ng enterprise, i don't care, It's still wrong and NOT how we should operate. You appear to me to be a trouble maker.
Now do me a favour, Don't waste your time reply to this but rather invest your energy into thinking of something positive you can post on outers and try and try and help us change our opinion of you.

Cheers, Dan...

get off your high horse he is just stating his experiance and if anything has alerted us to contact the seller for any potential problems proir to buying
im glad there are people here sharing their expeiances it gives us a more informed choice and an idea of potential problems

cheers

Ruffy wrote:

lolergram wrote:I say: "On your bike" if you can't understand. I hope I am not communicating with nuffies[/u]

Geeeez dude.. speaking of nuffies!!!!

Firstly bang your leagal temrs up your ....
You're missing the point here bud.... The point is that regardless of the outcome you posted a thread on here warning people of a product fault that you knew nothing about. You had NOT contacted the supplier. You had NO idea why the problem existed. You had NO idea wether or not the supplier was willing to rectify it, yet you warned every body that the products he was supplying would not fit...
That's were the problem lies my friend. You made a statement WITHOUT enough evidence or information.
Tell me mister legal guru, if the matter went to court that the product was faulty, would YOUR ONE OFF experience be enough to satisfy a magistrate that the batch of 45639 CV's would all have the same fault???????????????

It's all there in OUTERLIMITS black and white bozo... you stated his products were faulty yet you had not nearly enough evidence or proof.. Call it libel or defametry or the starship f%^*&ng enterprise, i don't care, It's still wrong and NOT how we should operate. You appear to me to be a trouble maker.
Now do me a favour, Don't waste your time reply to this but rather invest your energy into thinking of something positive you can post on outers and try and try and help us change our opinion of you.

Cheers, Dan...

I Don't see a Problem at al with this guy's Post regarding his ebay problems, I don't see in NO way that he Bagged him, Just stating a bad experience, Your reacting WAY over the Top.. I didn't see in the terms & conditions of outerlimits forums that you must in NO way say a bad word about this guy's shop - How is he to know he is respected here? I'm sure people can make up there own minds about his shop as to his excellent feedback...
Your just being Plain Childish Ruffy

Theres only one word (if you can call it that) to sum this up:
lol.....

damn you guys have some BROWN TOUNGES

i bet you use it as toothpaste aswell.

what you think hobzee ig gona give you discounts now?

have you guys got better things to do or what?

Its actually wierd this thread pops up, because i was looking at those said CVs to chuck in the toolbox, a set for gq and a set for gu, and the voila, this thread pops up.

THANKS to the bloke that posted it up, because when i purchase them, ( if i do) at least i know to trial fit them to see if i have to grind some shit of them, which is no problem because at that price you could trash a pair a trip and sti lnot complain!

i would be DAMN pissed if i packed them and then had to use in the middle of nowhere a treestump to try and gring some meat of them to make them fit.

Good point jesse9128, something definatly worth remebering for NAY part i buy as a spare, as sometime things are labelled wrong.

I just get the shiats cause the seller has heaps of feedback and only very,very few negative feedback.

And,Ive had heaps of issues with couriers as well, making my delivery side of things look terrible.



Anywayz i think were all over it now. gotta love the freedom of speech powers on a public forum.

As far as I can tell (and what I read) you said beware of the seller in the title, I reckon you should have siad that I purchased this brand of CV's off ebay and I had this issue ... (I am still unsure what brand the CV is).

Your title attacked the person .. not the issue.

When Hobzee did hear about the issue he was willing to make it right no doubt.

love_mud wrote:When Hobzee did hear about the issue he was willing to make it right no doubt.

See the other post for his reply
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=96849

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha laughing mt arse off.


thank f*ck hobzee is a decent guy to deal with and he has his head on the right way cause with some of the people on this forum me included and their opinions we may all self destruct one of these days

pongo wrote:And,Ive had heaps of issues with couriers as well, making my delivery side of things look terrible.

Sorry for the hijack, but how the f*ck do some of these courier companies stay in business? I ordered some steel to be delivered to my house for a job I needed to get done by a certain date and the dumb-arse couriers couldn't find the address on two separate occasions. I finally had to photocopy the map found in the local phone book showing the street they couldn't find! Turns out their depot was 3km away! What are the two things you need to make sure when you hire someone to be a courier? Can you drive? and can you read a map? I honestly don't know how some of these companies make money. So besides having a bitch, my question is; Why keep using the same company if they make you look bad by not delivering efficiently?

Ruffy wrote:

lolergram wrote:I say: "On your bike" if you can't understand. I hope I am not communicating with nuffies[/u]

Geeeez dude.. speaking of nuffies!!!!

Firstly bang your leagal temrs up your ....
You're missing the point here bud.... The point is that regardless of the outcome you posted a thread on here warning people of a product fault that you knew nothing about. You had NOT contacted the supplier. You had NO idea why the problem existed. You had NO idea wether or not the supplier was willing to rectify it, yet you warned every body that the products he was supplying would not fit...
That's were the problem lies my friend. You made a statement WITHOUT enough evidence or information.
Tell me mister legal guru, if the matter went to court that the product was faulty, would YOUR ONE OFF experience be enough to satisfy a magistrate that the batch of 45639 CV's would all have the same fault???????????????

It's all there in OUTERLIMITS black and white bozo... you stated his products were faulty yet you had not nearly enough evidence or proof.. Call it libel or defametry or the starship f%^*&ng enterprise, i don't care, It's still wrong and NOT how we should operate. You appear to me to be a trouble maker.
Now do me a favour, Don't waste your time reply to this but rather invest your energy into thinking of something positive you can post on outers and try and try and help us change our opinion of you.

Cheers, Dan...

Gotta say if anyone has no idea it would have to be you, like has been mentioned all he was doing is posting up a potential problem and his own personal experience, me personally I have bought from hobzee and have had nothing but excellent service, but that is my personal experience.
I cant believe that someone has the nerve to bag out a fella for bringing to light something that can help fellow 4wheelers