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Turbo Diesel.. cat convertor.. can i get rid of it?

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:52 pm
by crankycruiser
Ok i just got a 3" mandrel bent exhaust put on my new triton. its from the cat back.. (the cat is bolted directly to the back of the turbo)

now it does go better but it makes no noise watsoever! it has a pissy lil straight thur muffler on it and its still quiet as!

so my question is, wil it hurt to get rid of the cat...

and dont give me all the crap about emmisons stuff as i dont wanna hear about it..

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:21 pm
by udm
Hey, i didnt think diesels had cat conv.

Just get rid of it and get a straight through resonator/muffler for it.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:54 pm
by -Scott-
Why?

You've got a great engine which performs well.

You want to spend more money for a fractional change in power, which will make a minor difference to your driving experience, and a negligible difference to your fuel economy.

At the expense of masses more toxins (carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons) released into the atmosphere and the risk of hefty fines should some authority notice.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:45 pm
by Bluey
first i knew diesels had catalytic converters. didn't think they were needed

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:58 pm
by dibbz
Same.. particle filters are the rage with the new diesels in europe.. didn't think diesels had enough gas emissions to justify one.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:30 am
by crankycruiser
well the new common rail diesels have a cat.. its prolly more of a particall filter.. when u look up the guts of it.. it look jsut like a cat...

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:31 am
by crankycruiser
-Scott- wrote:Why?

You've got a great engine which performs well.

You want to spend more money for a fractional change in power, which will make a minor difference to your driving experience, and a negligible difference to your fuel economy.

At the expense of masses more toxins (carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons) released into the atmosphere and the risk of hefty fines should some authority notice.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.
why? cos i wanna...

and oviously u cant read. :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:51 am
by cloughy
crankycruiser wrote:
-Scott- wrote:Why?

You've got a great engine which performs well.

You want to spend more money for a fractional change in power, which will make a minor difference to your driving experience, and a negligible difference to your fuel economy.

At the expense of masses more toxins (carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons) released into the atmosphere and the risk of hefty fines should some authority notice.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.
why? cos i wanna...

and oviously u cant read. :roll:
Why aske then, you obviously expected that to be the answer, matter of fact, you answered your on question in your first post :D

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:50 am
by GUT 30
You will find that the cat is actually also the dump pipe.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:56 am
by crankycruiser
cloughy wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:
-Scott- wrote:Why?

You've got a great engine which performs well.

You want to spend more money for a fractional change in power, which will make a minor difference to your driving experience, and a negligible difference to your fuel economy.

At the expense of masses more toxins (carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons) released into the atmosphere and the risk of hefty fines should some authority notice.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.
why? cos i wanna...

and oviously u cant read. :roll:
Why aske then, you obviously expected that to be the answer, matter of fact, you answered your on question in your first post :D
i asked cos i didnt know if you COULD get rid of it! but as GuT30 said its part of the dump pipe.. so that answeers my question..

thanks Gut!

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:35 am
by Shadow
$10k fine

yeh go ahead, remove it.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:04 pm
by 1Tuffrover
just cut it open and bash all the crap out and then weld it back together! That way knowone knows.

The 3 litre turbo diesles Navaras had them too.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:15 pm
by j-top paj
1Tuffrover wrote:just cut it open and bash all the crap out and then weld it back together! That way knowone knows.

The 3 litre turbo diesles Navaras had them too.
thats what i would do if i was determined to get rid of it.

but i would probably just leave it in as there wont be too much gain from removing it

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:53 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:
-Scott- wrote:Why?

You've got a great engine which performs well.

You want to spend more money for a fractional change in power, which will make a minor difference to your driving experience, and a negligible difference to your fuel economy.

At the expense of masses more toxins (carbon monoxide and unburnt hydrocarbons) released into the atmosphere and the risk of hefty fines should some authority notice.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.
why? cos i wanna...

and oviously u cant read. :roll:
Actually, I read very well. But, just as you were determined to ignore my opinion, I decided to ignore yours.

You don't want to hear it, but I wanted to say it.

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:59 pm
by crankycruiser
i didnt want ur opinion.. i wanted an answer to a VERY simple question :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:20 pm
by NCpaj
hahahahah

cranky,,,,, i thought you were gunna keep the ole triton new ish and not do it up much


i give it a year and it will be like the 80 :D

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:21 pm
by crankycruiser
NCpaj wrote:hahahahah

cranky,,,,, i thought you were gunna keep the ole triton new ish and not do it up much


i give it a year and it will be like the 80 :D
yer mate.. jsut doin a few small things :D :twisted:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:27 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:i didnt want ur opinion.. i wanted an answer to a VERY simple question :roll:
Your very simple question was "will it hurt?"

The answer is "Yes" - it will hurt the environment.

If you wanted a different answer you should have been more specific with your question.

But you're interested in improving the performance of your vehicle. Any such improvement will be negligible at best, so why do it?

You're kidding yourself. Leave it alone.

Re: Turbo Diesel.. cat convertor.. can i get rid of it?

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:31 pm
by crankycruiser
crankycruiser wrote:
so my question is, wil it hurt to get rid of the cat...

and dont give me all the crap about emmisons stuff as i dont wanna hear about it..

if u read up this is taken from my ORIGINAL post
read again ! geez u make it hard!

Re: Turbo Diesel.. cat convertor.. can i get rid of it?

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:50 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:
so my question is, wil it hurt to get rid of the cat...

and dont give me all the crap about emmisons stuff as i dont wanna hear about it..

if u read up this is taken from my ORIGINAL post
read again ! geez u make it hard!
Sorry cranky - didn't mean to turn you on.

I already acknowledged you weren't interested in my opinion, after which you complained that I couldn't answer a simple question.

What was your simple question? "Will it hurt?"

The simple answer is "Yes."

We're arguing over what it will hurt, and the fact that you don't care.

I also believe any benefit to you will not be worth your effort - a point you have repeatedly avoided addressing.

You're kidding yourself. Don't do it.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:52 pm
by crankycruiser
i want to get rid of the thing .. not for perfomance but for noise!

THREAD CLOSED..

cos i dont give a rats :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:56 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:i want to get rid of the thing .. not for perfomance but for noise!

THREAD CLOSED..

cos i dont give a rats :roll:
Thread closed? No it's not. If it were, I couldn't post in it.

So, we're getting closer to the mark. You want to remove the cat to INCREASE the noise your vehicle makes?

Right. I understand now. 'Nuff said.

:rofl:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:57 pm
by crankycruiser
idiot.. if ya read the first post it tells ya that :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:57 pm
by rojak
Increase noise = Hoon.

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:58 pm
by crankycruiser
rojak wrote:Increase noise = Hoon.
yep and i love it.. :D

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:20 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:idiot.. if ya read the first post it tells ya that :roll:
Well, there ya go. I'd given you too much credit.

Lack of noise from an exhaust generally leads people to conclude that the exhaust is too restrictive, and must therefore be strangling the engine.

The next step in the thought process is typically to conclude that removing the restriction will allow the engine to breathe better, and thereby allow the engine to perform better.

This is the thought process I believed you were following, and your desire to remove the cat was fuelled by a desire for more performance.

However, you have just acknowledged that all you are interested in is creating more noise. Yep, I'm the idiot here.

:rofl:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:22 pm
by crankycruiser
wanker :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:26 pm
by -Scott-
crankycruiser wrote:wanker :roll:
Your arguments are becoming progressively more compelling. Your name-calling is clearly superior to mine, I feel humiliated in this school-yard battle.

Isn't it past your bedtime yet?

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:46 pm
by RockyF75
Just drill a hole in the headers, will make some more decibels for ya ;) :D

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:08 pm
by cloughy
-Scott- wrote:
crankycruiser wrote:wanker :roll:
Your arguments are becoming progressively more compelling. Your name-calling is clearly superior to mine, I feel humiliated in this school-yard battle.

Isn't it past your bedtime yet?
:rofl: