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Tyres and 2" lift

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:01 pm
by The Dude
Does anyone know the biggest tyres I can fit with just a 2" suspension lift on my 86 rangie?

And what would be the best offset to use?

I will be doing a body lift and guard later on, But I just want a quick fix for the next 2 months

I could go to a 3" lift if it would make a huge difference

Cheers

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:49 am
by Reddo
33s x 12.5 with some rubbing on the front diff location/radius arms, and you may need to do a bit of guard edge trimming depending on the off-set. Minus 12mm from standard off set (which I think is 150mm) should be a good compromise, any more and you'll have issues with guard interference, although with more off set the better the front wheels clear the radius arms.

...well I think this is about right. Best way is to beg, steal or borrow some, put them on and see what is needed. Go to 2.5" body lift while you at it - it will take it without too many dramas, eg., extended brake lines and the like.

Re: Tyres and 2" lift

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:23 pm
by TRobbo
The Dude wrote:I will be doing a body lift and guard later on, But I just want a quick fix for the next 2 months
Cheers
The Dude, is it your intention to do a body lift and guard cut in a couple of months time, presumably to fit a tyre bigger than 33? If so, IMO you would be better of saving your $$$ until that job is done rather than buying a set of tyres that you will use for just 8 weeks and then have no use for, but it's your money ralph.
By biggest tyres are you more interested in height, width or both. The widest tyre I was able to fit on my 4 door RR with 2 inch suspension and no guard cutting was 31 X 10.5. It is possible to get much taller than this though

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:49 pm
by The Dude
I just want to get a little more clearence, if im happy with just the 2" lift and bigger tyres, i will leave it at that

I did have some 33" Mtz for another project but they will just be a bit to wide

I am thinking the maxxis big horn 32x11.5 will do me for now

the body lift and guards is only if want to take to the next step

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:13 pm
by cloughy
You'll still need to trim for 32"

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:00 pm
by TRobbo
for best clearance under the diffs you are looking at something like a 7.50 16 size tyre. These fit really well. From memory BFG have a skinny tall mud terrain (33 x 9.5 ??) that will also fit. These tyres are not super hard core but they are reasonable options depending on what you want to achieve.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:46 am
by Scouse
TRobbo wrote:for best clearance under the diffs you are looking at something like a 7.50 16 size tyre. These fit really well.
And "The Dude" saw how a stock RR performed with those last Saturday :) .

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:58 am
by The Dude
Scouse wrote:
TRobbo wrote:for best clearance under the diffs you are looking at something like a 7.50 16 size tyre. These fit really well.
And "The Dude" saw how a stock RR performed with those last Saturday :) .

very well indeed Scouse

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:04 pm
by 460cixy
i will have 33x12.5 to fit on the weekend how do they go on a 72 rangie? same problems i guess but its 2 door

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:32 pm
by The Dude
let me know what you have do to fit them champ

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:56 pm
by Reddo
33'sx12.5........ah, I can hear the sound of the grinder right now.......gonna hit I'd say, but this is the best way to find out.

PS We're gonna be finding out how 35 x 12.5 3 lug simex fit the Disco soon....shiate, we've already chopped 2" out of the guards in anticipation, and this probably won't be enough. Proably will need off-set rims too.... hum.

Good luck with it.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:32 pm
by The Dude
well I think I have found the the right tyres, now I just need the rims

Maxxis 255/85 R16

that will give me 33 x 10...and should fit a lot easier then 11.5's

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:52 pm
by Slunnie
I've run that size on my Disco, and although not as sexy as the 285/75's, I reckon it was a more appropriate size.

Its also good to see that Maxi now make a tyre in that size. It used to be just BFG and Cooper.

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:17 pm
by 460cixy
i can allmost hear the sweet crack sound of busted axles lol

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:21 pm
by Reddo
no way not with 33's unless you're acting stupid. Always amazes me that many drivers feel like they have to thrash their cars mercilessly through the bush. When driving a Rover there's simply no need to - just take it easy and it will get there just as easy! :P

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:34 pm
by 460cixy
funny that i have only broken 2 axels rear one from when i drove nearly a year with a welded rear diff it finaly snaped doing a u turn one night. cant blame it for that. broken one inner axle not even giveing it any it just made a little crack dident even know till i disengauged the diff lock . only other things i have broken is about 3 side gears on the rear diff but only one tooth on each gear when its happend im up gradeing to 24 spline and vented front discs when i can find one prety hard to find around these parts

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:00 pm
by cloughy
Reddo wrote:no way not with 33's unless you're acting stupid. Always amazes me that many drivers feel like they have to thrash their cars mercilessly through the bush. When driving a Rover there's simply no need to - just take it easy and it will get there just as easy! :P
Your obviously taking the soft option ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:55 pm
by Slunnie
You've obviously got no mechanical empathy. ;)

I ran stocker diffs and axles for ages doing tuff trips monthly etc. You can drive hard and not break it, and you can drive stupidly and break it on the very same track. I know, I've done both. That was also on 33" Simex, 255/85 ST's, 255/85 STT's and 285/75 MTR's on stock 24 splines.

If you use your head, 33's are fine.

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:51 am
by cloughy
Slunnie wrote:You've obviously got no mechanical empathy. ;)

I ran stocker diffs and axles for ages doing tuff trips monthly etc. You can drive hard and not break it, and you can drive stupidly and break it on the very same track. I know, I've done both. That was also on 33" Simex, 255/85 ST's, 255/85 STT's and 285/75 MTR's on stock 24 splines.

If you use your head, 33's are fine.
Yea, D2 but, with traction control aswell :?

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 1:14 am
by Slunnie
yeah I guess that helps. :oops:

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 9:45 am
by Vogue
If you want to run standard rims, i run 265/75 16's on a 2" lift. They only rub on radius arm on full lock. No grinder needed.

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:38 am
by The Dude
Thanks for the info guys, I have decided to stick with my 15x7 rims and buy some 33x10.5 bfg MTs

I will have the grinder on stanby

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 10:02 pm
by Reddo
Na Cloughy, not the soft option, but maybe the difference is running in lots a mud down here ...and not much on rocks :roll:

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:55 am
by Maggot4x4
Rangie with a 2" spring lift, no body lift and 35's

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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:43 am
by The Dude
what offset did you use Maggot?

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:49 pm
by Reddo
looks like standard, or maybe 15mm more than standard??

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:38 pm
by Maggot4x4
There on 15x7's with +25mm offset. 35x12.5x15's

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:48 pm
by Reddo
15 x 7....no probs with the 7inch rims?? Was thinking of doing the same but tyre guy said a minimum of 8' rims mis needed to mount 12.5's.., Got a set of 7s here so if they work for you....might save some money

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:30 pm
by 460cixy
this is a drama i may have as well i think theses 33,s im getting are 12.5 and my wheels are only 7 i think maybe 8 im not sure

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:07 pm
by cloughy
12.5s will fit on 7" rims fine, just the tyre fitters guidelines recommend a rim width of 8.5"