Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I'm sick of the lean on my Zuk, which is now a lot worst after my trip to Cityview. I am going to get some new springs but no where offers true 2" springs that differ left to right so this isn't going to fix the lean.

What I'm trying to do is find out the weight distribution for all four spring packs then get a suspension place that is willing to talk WITH me rather then at me to come up with a solution that will flex, ride level and hopefully not destroy itself on every outing.

In doing this I want to go armed with the information I need so that we can build spring packs that will work together under the individual loads. I know everything is a compromise but it has to be better then the generic BS most places give.

Does anyone know where I can get this done? I have rung the scale places in the yellow pages and most recommended Sprint Car clubs or the like. Does anyone else have any real ideas.

No bathroom scales won't work. And Qld Transport ain't an option.

Here's my list of requirements / wants:
- 50-65mm lift
- currently RUF so I would perfer custom pack made from a combination of front and rears
- in the rear I want to ditch the normal inverse load springs and add extra short leaf for load
- loss the normal retainer and add the taller type with retaining bolt
- miltary wrap for the shackle end of the RUF

I know I may be asking a lot but if I can find something that works well others may benifit, I don't mind doing a few hard yards getting what I want, I've already spent many hours fitting and refitting various leaf packs only to find them still lean and now bend. I am sick of buying second hand and now want to draw on other's more experienced knowledge.

Greg

best way to be would find someone in the rta who does the truck vechile weighting and get them to do it as there scales give individual readings for each tyre.

the only problem i see with that is that it gives total weight not unsprung weight. you would then need to weight the diffs separately.

Justa question but why dont you use king springs are they are side percific on the front ?

Cheers Nick

CWBYUP wrote:best way to be would find someone in the rta who does the truck vechile weighting and get them to do it as there scales give individual readings for each tyre.

the only problem i see with that is that it gives total weight not unsprung weight. you would then need to weight the diffs separately.

Justa question but why dont you use king springs are they are side percific on the front ?

Cheers Nick

RUF

weights of the axles & wheels etc doesn't bother me too much really doing it too see howe much each corner differs, i can make allowance for unsprung mass

Im not sure if youre in vic or not, but if so, or even by phone, give leigh a call at Ironman springvale. He is a zook nut and was a great deal of help with setting up my suspension, as far as even customising it all for me by changing leaf packs, resets, etc...

Sorry forgot to mention that I'm in Brisbane

public weigh bridge, just place one wheel at a time on it.

get it done at your local tip drive in and ask how much it ways then do a uturn and go its free, if you need paper work a weigh bridge, any one how deals with/sells trailers would no were there is one.

I was looking for this very thing after the chop for the rear suspension...Browns Plains refuse station has a weighbridge but they will only do the whole car at one time.

Even if you did put one wheel on it at a time the reading would be inaccurate as the ramps leading onto/off the scales would make the weight fall down the ramp, making the weight on the wheel (on the scales) read less that it actually is.

Hope that made sence!

You could try some one that prepares rally or race cars, they will usually have a set of vehicle scales to set the suspension......

Greg

flat patch scales, don't know 2 much about them, my housemate used em in the uk working on le mans race cars, most good race teams should have them.
can ask questions in the morning.
they sounded tek when he was telling me about em. they take a bit of setting up. ie in the pit bay race day. but if they have got them set up in the workshop would be the best way to accuratly weigh ur truck.
only concern is the actual weight might be to much.

Don't know about scales for each tyre; but for whole car go to the quarrie and ask thats what i did with my trailer, no charge

and these guys can do custom spring packs pretty reasonable too:
All About Steering & Suspension
73 Moss St Slacks Creek 4127
(07) 3290 3064

I'd also recommend talking to greg at City suspension, coupla doors up from Suzisport at springwood on the service road...

He tuned my Kings in for me when i changed from work lugabout to fun rig and it's a very stable result.

Spock

ARB springs are side dependent to counter the different weight bias and road camber

Go and see the guys at Bayside springs. I have had good results in the past - they are willing to do something out of the ordinary, and make up custom spring packs for you.