Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey guys
im just about to buy a new compressor and im choosing between the bushranger max air 2 or the boss off ebay!

the boss:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Air-Compressor-B ... dZViewItem

max air 2:
http://www.bushranger.com.au/maxair_2_compressor.php

i just wanna know which one you would rather go with and why!
thanks mitch

check out the duty cycle on both

The Boss is 3/4 HP, the Bushranger would be around 1/4 hp.

No contest. But get some big thick cables for the Boss and use with the engine running...

_Mitcho_ wrote: max air 2:
http://www.bushranger.com.au/maxair_2_compressor.php

From the bushranger site

Will easily pump a 10R.15 off-road tyre from 15 psi to 32 psi in 2 minutes, and then comfortably continue to do so for five of your mate’s vehicles as well, before there is a chance of the thermal shut down switch kicking in.

My boss setup with tank will do all 4 in about 1 1/2 mins also runs a rattle gun

Hobzee of here sells the boss set ups

cheers Hamo

How loud are they and what's the build quality like? Does it just have standard air fittings?

onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

New supermax 85 l/pmin and 66lpm at 30psi

http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

noelb1 wrote:onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

I find that very hard to believe. Even 17 CFM 240 volt air compessors wont do that for long. They need time to refill. So a 12 volt compressor sure as hell wouldn't do it.

Cheers Mick.

Mick. wrote:

noelb1 wrote:onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

I find that very hard to believe. Even 17 CFM 240 volt air compessors wont do that for long. They need time to refill. So a 12 volt compressor sure as hell wouldn't do it.

Cheers Mick.

i beg to diffa mick i dont know bout the bushranger but i know the boss 12v compressor can do it quiet easliy i have seen it.......
12v 3/4 Hp Air Compressor by BOSS Suspension.

This unit is of exceptional quality with steel components, not plastic. It's specs are :

Massive -- 35cm long, 25 cm tall, 18cm wide. This is without doubt the biggest and most impressive compressor out there..

3/4 Horse Power

3.5 cfm @ free flow

Max pressure 200 psi

Working Pressure 0-150 psi

100% duty cylcle - just keeps going. All others heat up and stop.

Draws max 25 amp on start up under pressure.

12 month warranty.

Ideally this unit would be fitted to a vehicle to pump up tyres, run diff locks or operate air tools. Although perfectly capable of pumping up tyres without an air tank, best pumping and air tool results are achieved when using a tank with pressure switch. We also sell a range of tanks, pressure switches and accessories.

Putting this in perspective this unit is in a legaue of its own. It is so much bigger and faster than anything else it is unfair to the competition to make comparisons .... but I did! Check this out..

(filling a 33x12.5R15 Cooper ST from 20psi to 35psi)

ARB (Large); 1 TYRE- 3 min 20 sec, 4 TYRES-13 min 20 sec

Bushranger; 1 TYRE- 2 min 15 sec, 4 TYRES- 9 min

Boss 3/4 w/o tank; 1 TYRE- 50 sec, 4 TYRES- 3 min 20 sec

BOSS IMPRESSOR Kit; 1 TYRE- 23 sec, 4 TYRES- 1 min 32 sec
(Boss 3/4 with tank) GAME OVER

I would have to see it to believe it. I don't think any 12 volt compressor could run continuisly all day without needing to sit for 30 second to a minute to refill a tank before you could continue at some stage. You could do 4 or 8 wheels straight but continously is a very very very big call.


cheers Mick.

Mick. wrote:I would have to see it to believe it. I don't think any 12 volt compressor could run continuisly all day without needing to sit for 30 second to a minute to refill a tank before you could continue at some stage. You could do 4 or 8 wheels straight but continously is a very very very big call.


cheers Mick.

mate in not running it continuisly..... there was no talk about "runnin contiusly all day" till you brought it up...what i was trying to say is that you are able to use a rattle gun with no problem off a boss compressor and air tank set up....... i dont know of any comp. and tank set up on a 4wd is set up to run all day

Doesn't this mean it doesn't need to be stopped for a break?

MUSS wrote:100% duty cylcle - just keeps going. All others heat up and stop.

There are a lot of motors that are 100% duty cycle though, so I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.

3.5 cfm at free flow..... would be a tad less under load. I guess you could run a rattle gun for short bursts...... but if you had something that was tough to get undone, you would be stopping regularly to build air. I have a 2 1/2" HP compressor that won't keep up to a rattle gun running for any more than 30 seconds straight. Would be fine for doing wheel nuts i guess...... although i wouldn't tighten them with one.

MUSS wrote:

Mick. wrote:I would have to see it to believe it. I don't think any 12 volt compressor could run continuisly all day without needing to sit for 30 second to a minute to refill a tank before you could continue at some stage. You could do 4 or 8 wheels straight but continously is a very very very big call.


cheers Mick.

mate in not running it continuisly..... there was no talk about "runnin contiusly all day" till you brought it up...what i was trying to say is that you are able to use a rattle gun with no problem off a boss compressor and air tank set up....... i dont know of any comp. and tank set up on a 4wd is set up to run all day

There was a post above that said they would a ratle gun non stop. That is the same as say it will run continuisly or run all day.

And all I said was I couldn't see any 12 volt compressor running a rattle gun non stop, continuisly or all day which ever way you want to put it, it all means the same.

Cheers Mick.

Mick. wrote:

MUSS wrote:

Mick. wrote:I would have to see it to believe it. I don't think any 12 volt compressor could run continuisly all day without needing to sit for 30 second to a minute to refill a tank before you could continue at some stage. You could do 4 or 8 wheels straight but continously is a very very very big call.


cheers Mick.

mate in not running it continuisly..... there was no talk about "runnin contiusly all day" till you brought it up...what i was trying to say is that you are able to use a rattle gun with no problem off a boss compressor and air tank set up....... i dont know of any comp. and tank set up on a 4wd is set up to run all day

There was a post above that said they would a ratle gun non stop. That is the same as say it will run continuisly or run all day.

And all I said was I couldn't see any 12 volt compressor running a rattle gun non stop, continuisly or all day which ever way you want to put it, it all means the same.

Cheers Mick.

there is no where in this thred that has been stated that "they would run a rattle gun non stop" no where!!!

why would a reputable 4wd shop owner state this then "Ideally this unit would be fitted to a vehicle to pump up tyres, run diff locks or operate air tools. Although perfectly capable of pumping up tyres without an air tank, best pumping and air tool results are achieved when using a tank with pressure switch. We also sell a range of tanks, pressure switches and accessories.

Putting this in perspective this unit is in a legaue of its own. It is so much bigger and faster than anything else it is unfair to the competition to make comparisons"

so weather you believe it or not its been proven.... even hamo stated he has/does run a rattle gun!

I'll get some video of the test with the twin compressors, but you don't run one non stop when you are using one do you, and using a single compressor
be it a max air or boss you have ample pressure to use a rattle gun for the required time needed.

edit
there are also several shops using these set ups on there on site fitting trucks

if i was to run a battery operated pump, the boss would be the one.
they look the goods.

Jes

I Have a boss set up and did a comparo at a navrun against an endless air system.
The endless system was marginally quicker to pump up two 35's from 20 to 40.
It WILL NOT run a rattle gun NON STOP. It will however, undo all six nuts on one wheel with the 15l tank at 135psi and the compressor cuts in. By the time the wheel is off and back on it's ready to go again. So you can do a tyre change with out waiting for the compressor.
Any half decent rattle gun will consume about 25cfm+... NO 12v compressor is going to keep up with that.. no if's no buts...

I haven't been able to fault the boss system. It is noisier than some but nothing quieter comes close to it's performance!
For my dollars, the boss system hands down.
Cheers Dan.

P.S. I got mine through Hobzee off here. Very trouble free transaction. When i took delivery of the product it did have a mount that was damaged in transit and he sourced new mounts ASAP without a question. Great service. Either PM him or go to his the4wdshop store on Ebay.

jessie928 wrote:if i was to run a battery operated pump, the boss would be the one.
they look the goods.
Jes

Agreed.....But I'll stick with my York thanks
Although I still find it humourous that the ebay add claims it to be faster then service station pumps

well i bought the boss impressor kit which cost me $585 posted without the pressure switch coz i already have one! im getting it put in next week

Just a thought if it draws 25 amps then that is 300w which is only 0.4hp not 3/4hp. I'm sure its agood pump though.

I think all tests should be done without a tank too.


Jimmy

noelb1 wrote:onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

New supermax 85 l/pmin and 66lpm at 30psi

http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

Muss are you blind Read the quote above.

That is the quote I was refering to.

Ruffy has explaned exactly what I was trying to say. No 12 volt compressor will run a rattle gun non stop.

By the way muss I am getting a Boss compressor and I wasn't saying there not a good compressor i'm just saying there not as good as everyone likes to make out.

Cheers Mick.

Mick. wrote:

noelb1 wrote:onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

New supermax 85 l/pmin and 66lpm at 30psi

http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

Muss are you blind Read the quote above.

That is the quote I was refering to.

Ruffy has explaned exactly what I was trying to say. No 12 volt compressor will run a rattle gun non stop.

By the way muss I am getting a Boss compressor and I wasn't saying there not a good compressor i'm just saying there not as good as everyone likes to make out.

Cheers Mick.

awwe sh1t... my bad Mick. and to think i read the hole thred twice i understand what you are on about

MUSS wrote:

Mick. wrote:

noelb1 wrote:onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

New supermax 85 l/pmin and 66lpm at 30psi

http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

Muss are you blind Read the quote above.

That is the quote I was refering to.

Ruffy has explaned exactly what I was trying to say. No 12 volt compressor will run a rattle gun non stop.

By the way muss I am getting a Boss compressor and I wasn't saying there not a good compressor i'm just saying there not as good as everyone likes to make out.

Cheers Mick.

awwe sh1t... my bad Mick. and to think i read the hole thred twice i understand what you are on about

No worries mate.

Cheers Mick.

now selling mine.... upgrading...again
http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=109761

onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

thats bullshit, ive got 2 bushranger max airs piped into a 15lt tank and even with 2 compressors running it wont continuously run a rattle gun, it will allow about 5 wheel nuts to be removed before it needs to re charge[/quote]

Paid 140 delivered and very happy.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-Monster-Heav ... dZViewItem

Madmac wrote:

onboard air kits - will run a rattle gun nonstop
http://www.bushranger.com.au/onboard_air_kit.php

thats bullshit

agreed

sorry Noel

has the boss got the same specs as the one superior sell? the $540 one... it doesnt give a cfm on the website.

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... category=6

same compressor, same a BBM big pump only color varies n sometimes foot mounts

ROGQ wrote:has the boss got the same specs as the one superior sell? the $540 one... it doesnt give a cfm on the website.

http://www.superiorengineering.com.au/p ... category=6

so buying mine would be a bargain