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can anybody tell me weather a flip arm can be done on a standard cruiser or do they have to have a high steer and panard lift .

Yes it can be done. You can always do hi-steer later..

You need a bit of lift before it will be possible, otherwise the arms will hit the chassis....id say 4 inches of lift would be a good flip measurement.....

i did this when fitting the 80 series diffs to my 40 and since i ran with standard coils i had to fit bump stops to stop the arms hitting the shock bracketts, chassi

thanks for the feedback guys i will start playing with them now , i don't think the arms hitting the chassis will be an issue 7'' coils and 30mm packers , that's why i want to do flip over so i can flatten the arms out and raise the shock mounts , for more travel and piss of the caster plates.

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or cranky and i could just build another one.

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Drawn...to lengthern the body b4 quartering and sending bits to the 4 corners of the english empire (to rule by fear)

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What are the dobbin hi steer arms worth? and what are they made of?

sorry professor i didnt read all your reply was unaware that you are from dobbin , hope i didnt ofend you .

regards gun100

-Richo- wrote:What are the dobbin hi steer arms worth? and what are they made of?

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What are the dobbin hi steer arms worth? and what are they made of?

?? the 2 arms (left and right)???
$1200 and a few other conditions like trade of original arms.

they are made of heat treated steel

Chad

professor wrote:?? the 2 arms (left and right)???
$1200 and a few other conditions like trade of original arms.

they are made of heat treated steel

Chad

80series only needs "one" high steer arm and it goes on the passenger side knuckle.... exactly what arms are u talking about???

i'd assume that Chad has replied with a price for a 100 series

udm wrote:

professor wrote:?? the 2 arms (left and right)???
$1200 and a few other conditions like trade of original arms.

they are made of heat treated steel

Chad

80series only needs "one" high steer arm and it goes on the passenger side knuckle.... exactly what arms are u talking about???

yeah that was what i wanted to know the 1200 is for the 2 arms you need 2 for hydo assist.

$600 for just one side of the 80 series

Chad

udm wrote:

professor wrote:?? the 2 arms (left and right)???
$1200 and a few other conditions like trade of original arms.

they are made of heat treated steel

Chad

80series only needs "one" high steer arm and it goes on the passenger side knuckle.... exactly what arms are u talking about???

from what i can see its not like the jmac hi steer, this is proper hi steer, as in it gets the tie rod up and out of harms way up front, this is the main reason i would want to get the dobbin set up. $1200 is not bad considering the cost for hilux hi steer.

Chad, so they are made from 4130? What kind of finish are on them? cos chromoly still rusts??

My car still has the factory steering links etc.

Question time...

If you use one of glenns high steer arms, tierod will be bolted onto the new high steer arm, but where will the draglink bolt onto? Those arms that Chad posted dont actually have a draglink mounting point behind the steering knuckle.

Chad, u say u dont have the arms in stock, do you atleast have photos of 80series arms?

Ulises

udm wrote:My car still has the factory steering links etc.

Question time...

If you use one of glenns high steer arms, tierod will be bolted onto the new high steer arm, but where will the draglink bolt onto? Those arms that Chad posted dont actually have a draglink mounting point behind the steering knuckle.

Chad, u say u dont have the arms in stock, do you atleast have photos of 80series arms?

Ulises

there is a few options Glenn uses the original arms and welds the high steer part to it(STOP before you freak on the welding. the welding is what the cost is time to tig it up weld testing can be done too for the engineer).
you can retain the rear tie rod mounts we cut it offf for the hydro assist as it wasn't needed.so yes you can just use one high steer(left hand side)


the pic just up a bit shows my diff with high steer(it an 80 series diff) what photo do you need??

Chad

-Richo- wrote:

udm wrote:

professor wrote:?? the 2 arms (left and right)???
$1200 and a few other conditions like trade of original arms.

they are made of heat treated steel

Chad

80series only needs "one" high steer arm and it goes on the passenger side knuckle.... exactly what arms are u talking about???

from what i can see its not like the jmac hi steer, this is proper hi steer, as in it gets the tie rod up and out of harms way up front, this is the main reason i would want to get the dobbin set up. $1200 is not bad considering the cost for hilux hi steer.

Chad, so they are made from 4130? What kind of finish are on them? cos chromoly still rusts??

nothing wrong with Jmacs HS Glenns is best suited to the hydro assist senario as for material i'm not sure. the coating is not chrome its nickel or ........um somthing like that dam hard wearing stuff.

Chad

can anyone tell me if an 80 series front diff housing is the same as a 100 series . want to use another diff to do flipp arm on and there are more 80 series ones laying about than 100 series , still want to put all the 100 series axle's and swivel hubs back into the 80 series housing etc . this way i can keep the 100 series hosing to put back in at a later date if need be .

gun100 wrote:can anyone tell me if an 80 series front diff housing is the same as a 100 series . want to use another diff to do flipp arm on and there are more 80 series ones laying about than 100 series , still want to put all the 100 series axle's and swivel hubs back into the 80 series housing etc . this way i can keep the 100 series hosing to put back in at a later date if need be .

Diferent stud paturn and flange sizes They are not a straight swap
But i could be wrong
Chad

you mean wheel studs ond flange hubs ?

professor wrote:

gun100 wrote:can anyone tell me if an 80 series front diff housing is the same as a 100 series . want to use another diff to do flipp arm on and there are more 80 series ones laying about than 100 series , still want to put all the 100 series axle's and swivel hubs back into the 80 series housing etc . this way i can keep the 100 series hosing to put back in at a later date if need be .

Diferent stud paturn and flange sizes They are not a straight swap
But i could be wrong
Chad

He's jsut talkin bout using the housing itself.. and putting his swivel hubs centre etc in it...

any ideas.. anyone!

crankycruiser wrote:

professor wrote:

gun100 wrote:can anyone tell me if an 80 series front diff housing is the same as a 100 series . want to use another diff to do flipp arm on and there are more 80 series ones laying about than 100 series , still want to put all the 100 series axle's and swivel hubs back into the 80 series housing etc . this way i can keep the 100 series hosing to put back in at a later date if need be .

Diferent stud paturn and flange sizes They are not a straight swap
But i could be wrong
Chad

He's jsut talkin bout using the housing itself.. and putting his swivel hubs centre etc in it...

any ideas.. anyone!

yeah i'm lost can someone answer this one.

I think there are a few slight diferences but i'm not sure, great idea though, keep the standard diff standard and have a XLink diff

chad

thats the plan chad might have to talk soon about the x link ??

cheers justin

gun100 wrote:thats the plan chad might have to talk soon about the x link ??

cheers justin

No stress when you are ready

web site is sort of up dated check it out.

www.dobbinengineering.com/

Chad

Just put 100 brakes on my 80, housings are thesame, axle lengths thesame (up front) go for it....

THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE CASE JUST WANTED TO CHECK BEFORE I STARTED CUTTING THINGS UP , JUST NEED TO SOURCE A HOUSING AND WHERE AWAY THEN , LET THE FUN BEGIN .

hey gun, tim had one at hobart truck spares couple of weeks ago when i got my rear one