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calmini 5'' sierra lift

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:32 am
by stockman
has any one got one of these /know price etc..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:43 am
by redzook
if u want to go 5 inch lift why not go springover :? ?

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:25 am
by greg
Stockman,

Have a read of this thread:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... um.php?f=2

It's not suzuki specific, but there's a few points made by people about heavily arched springs being far to stiff to get any travel out of.

Moral to the story - it's best not to try to lift your car using the leaf springs.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:29 am
by redzook
i dont think it is all spring lift
;)

but lifted springs are to stiff well i reckon anyway :)

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:25 am
by greg
redzook wrote:i dont think it is all spring lift
;)

but lifted springs are to stiff well i reckon anyway :)


True, i presume it is this kit:

http://www.puresuzuki.com/super_5.htm

which according to the write up is 3" of spring lift, plus a shackle reversal (where the spring mounts on the chassis are lowered an additional 2 inches)...

Yes, you'd have to question the flex in the springs when you read this statement:

"...This system uses our shackle reversal system combined with the CALMINI 3 inch springs for maximum axle wrap control...."

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:33 am
by stockman
redzook wrote:if u want to go 5 inch lift why not go springover :? ?


how much for a spring over job??

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:36 am
by redzook
pm overkill or mickbj42

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:39 am
by OVERKILL ENG
Bothe Mick and I offer a few different setups for the spring overthey range from $2600
SAM

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:49 am
by nicbeer
Hey overkill

What are the price ranges for a spring lift setup? thinking 2-3" lift on a 85' SWB. I don't want a spring over.

Coild kit available yet.

cheers

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:29 pm
by Guy
I am on a few US mail lists as well .. The calmini 5 inch combo lift seem to be pretty expensive, does not offer a that much flex and for a 5 inch lift will still limit you to about a 31 inch tyre doe to firewalll issues .. ( S/R tyre moves back on compression) and the kit does not move the axle far enough forward to stop this .. ..
Aslo if you do get it to flex better (most dropout as it the kit does come with extemded bumpstops from memory) you will be looking at a front shaft with extra slip joint travel ..

If you are after a mild setup that will run a 31-33 tyre look at either a "low" spring over or a set of leaves with a mild lift say 2 inch and a 2 inch body lift .. less lift better flex and more room for rubber..

A S\R unless you are are looking to make signifigant changes to the entire drive line (steering, firewall mods etc) a normal "lift kit" is a better deal IMHO ..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 1:09 pm
by stockman
overkill wrote:Bothe Mick and I offer a few different setups for the spring overthey range from $2600
SAM


oh right mate the calmini 5'' is still a bit cheaper than that though..

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:56 pm
by CHOPZUKI
go into rocky road out fitters i got there springover kit and did it myself it will be heaps cheaper than that calmini kit. it cost me about $850 US and came with an awesome high steer kit (ott stage 2), all new shocks, a rear shock mount that lets you adjust angle of shocks and all the spring over bits, im very happy with it. :D

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:49 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
nicbeer wrote:Hey overkill

What are the price ranges for a spring lift setup? thinking 2-3" lift on a 85' SWB. I don't want a spring over.

Coild kit available yet.

cheers


coil kit not ready yet. You will hate driving on three inch springs you might aswell drive a jack hammer.2' springs are about $250-300.

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:19 am
by camskizook
stockman wrote:
overkill wrote:Bothe Mick and I offer a few different setups for the spring overthey range from $2600
SAM


oh right mate the calmini 5'' is still a bit cheaper than that though..


That price is for the kit itself so you still have to install it yourself which to me looks like a complete pain in the arse after checking out what their fully 'bolt on' kit includes......sam and micks price includes the cost of parts and installation and im certain would work a lot better :)

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 4:39 pm
by greg
camskizook wrote:That price is for the kit itself so you still have to install it yourself which to me looks like a complete pain in the arse after checking out what their fully 'bolt on' kit includes......sam and micks price includes the cost of parts and installation and im certain would work a lot better :)


Stockman lives in Tassie, so including installation or not, it may not be the easiest of modifications to perform / arrange :?

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:26 am
by stockman
camskizook wrote:
stockman wrote:
overkill wrote:Bothe Mick and I offer a few different setups for the spring overthey range from $2600
SAM


oh right mate the calmini 5'' is still a bit cheaper than that though..


That price is for the kit itself so you still have to install it yourself which to me looks like a complete pain in the arse after checking out what their fully 'bolt on' kit includes......sam and micks price includes the cost of parts and installation and im certain would work a lot better :)


they say it provides 25'' of articulation with 31''tyres and takes 4-6 hours to install..

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:38 am
by greg
stockman wrote:they say it provides 25'' of articulation with 31''tyres and takes 4-6 hours to install..


Maybe they've the articulation of all 4 wheels together to get 25" :?

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 9:08 am
by stockman
greg wrote:
stockman wrote:they say it provides 25'' of articulation with 31''tyres and takes 4-6 hours to install..


Maybe they've the articulation of all 4 wheels together to get 25" :?


I seen a few pics of zooks with the kit on a website in pretty rough terrain and they seemed allright to me

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:19 am
by stockman
yld04b wrote:go into rocky road out fitters i got there springover kit and did it myself it will be heaps cheaper than that calmini kit. it cost me about $850 US and came with an awesome high steer kit (ott stage 2), all new shocks, a rear shock mount that lets you adjust angle of shocks and all the spring over bits, im very happy with it. :D


can you please give me contact number/website etc thanks mate.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:26 am
by greg
stockman wrote:can you please give me contact number/website etc thanks mate.


http://www.rocky-road.com

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:32 pm
by Guy
Jump on a few of the US boards and aska few of the guys who have used the calmini kit ... get first hand opinions from the people who ise it .. not the marketing jargon from those who sell it ...

Personlly save your $$ get a small lift spring (OME) and a bodylift .. all very simple works great and using easy to replace aussie parts 4 inch lift (with modded shock mounts) lots of flex and still quite friendly on the street ...

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:19 am
by greg
love_mud wrote:Personlly save your $$ get a small lift spring (OME) and a bodylift .. all very simple works great and using easy to replace aussie parts 4 inch lift (with modded shock mounts) lots of flex and still quite friendly on the street ...


:shock: :roll: :shock:

OMG!!!! This has to be a bad omen or something :D

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:01 am
by christover1
I was chatting with a Guy in the USA on Yahoos SUV's Trucks & Vans. He has had the Calmini 5" for a long while. He not happy with the stiffness of the suspension, it still picks up wheels, when others dont. I thought they needed time to bed in, but he had them for over 5 years, christover.

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 4:14 pm
by WaveCult
christover1 wrote:I was chatting with a Guy in the USA on Yahoos SUV's Trucks & Vans. He has had the Calmini 5" for a long while. He not happy with the stiffness of the suspension, it still picks up wheels, when others dont. I thought they needed time to bed in, but he had them for over 5 years, christover.


Yeah, you're probably right... should be fine after 6 years... :D

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:29 pm
by Wolverine
I have run this suspension now for about 8 months. I am running it with 33's and a 1 inch body lift and recon it works great. The springs are a bit stiff but I have been told they do settle after awhile. As far as flex goes, it maybe due to the bigger rubber, but I recon it works really well.
I paid $1750 for mine which came with everything. I choose this setup because it suited what I was looking for.
As I cannot weld very well and have poor engineering skills, a pre-made bolt on kit was exactly what I was looking for. Took about 6 hrs at a casual rate for me and a mate to strip the old gear off and put on the new stuff.
Rides well aswell!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:34 pm
by Guy
greg wrote:
love_mud wrote:Personlly save your $$ get a small lift spring (OME) and a bodylift .. all very simple works great and using easy to replace aussie parts 4 inch lift (with modded shock mounts) lots of flex and still quite friendly on the street ...


:shock: :roll: :shock:

OMG!!!! This has to be a bad omen or something :D


Hmm next you will be espousing the virtues of a spring over ... :D

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 7:36 pm
by Guy
Wolverine wrote:I have run this suspension now for about 8 months. I am running it with 33's and a 1 inch body lift and recon it works great. The springs are a bit stiff but I have been told they do settle after awhile. As far as flex goes, it maybe due to the bigger rubber, but I recon it works really well.
I paid $1750 for mine which came with everything. I choose this setup because it suited what I was looking for.
As I cannot weld very well and have poor engineering skills, a pre-made bolt on kit was exactly what I was looking for. Took about 6 hrs at a casual rate for me and a mate to strip the old gear off and put on the new stuff.
Rides well aswell!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers


Does it come anywhere close to the advertised 26 inches of travel ?? (from what I can gather the way that calmini measure the flex, a stock suzuki has around 26 inches of travel as well .. )

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 8:00 pm
by zookjedi
i know a fella with the calmini 5"lift runs 32" tyres , looks good except for the eeeextra long front mounts, which will reduce your approach angle , and he drops his front drive shaft occasionly. i'd say he must go thru some uni's as well due to the diffs not being rotated to suit the 5" lift .

who cares how much flex you get when youve just gotta get out and remove both ends of your drive shaft and reinstall it as one unit again ?
unless you plan on just driving up travel index ramps leave it on the shelf.

Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 9:20 pm
by bazooked
haha no way is there 26 inches of travel :rofl: :rofl: .hey wolverine were in perth r u?,pic of ur zook?

Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:29 pm
by Wolverine
I'm north of the river, in Joondalup.

I have never actually got a tape and measured the travel so I can't honestly tell you. I will do it when I am back in Perth next week.

With the front driveshaft, the kit comes with two spacers for the front, so it should be long enough. Anyway it works for me, it gives me height, what I recon is pretty good travel and was easy to install.

Aslo I at first I got some vibes from the rear but I put in some wedges and it seemed to fix it up.

I will get some pics of my mates comp and post them soon.