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Dreaming of a new rear ball joint....

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:25 pm
by 86MUD
this one is gold plated...

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At only 148 pounds plus delivery to Aus. This equates to about $375 plus postage.

Is it worth it?

Cheers

Andrew

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:16 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Looks like cadmium plating, and aren't those joints illegal? Looks good quality though.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:37 pm
by 86MUD
I have that before about those joints. But what makes them illegal?

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:49 pm
by LincolnBlack
I'm not sure why the red-tape makers call them illegal, but I think the reason may have something to do with the fact that there is no means for the joint to absorb shock. ie, no bush like substance in there. So they transmit shock to other components casusing cracks etc. Plus these joints can flog out themselves. But then again, the stock rangie ball joint doesn't have a rubber bush either, but is sealed. :armsup:

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:52 pm
by Reddo
me thinks the trannies would not even look under there, and if they did, they would not know what they are looking at. Paint it black for good measure.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:37 pm
by cloughy
Funny though, its lifted a little, but won't correct the ugly angle that happens on lifted rovers, i'm still undecided as to how i'll approach mine to correct it, if i knew this would help a heap, i'd pay the dough, i know they have more rotation available, but at that price, don't think i'll take the gamble

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:22 pm
by Loanrangie
I reckon if it took a hammering it could punch thru or pull out leaving you up shite creek without a rear end.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:30 pm
by Euan
These rod end arn't designed to carry load in that axis, it won't fail but it will flog out.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:58 pm
by uninformed
QT stuff use to be well made but have herd that this has dropped away recently.

doesn't matter how legal stuff is............. until you have a crash and some one gets fucked up and your insurer decides to look over your vehicle to get out of paying, finds out some small thing doesn't comply and you end up paying for it the rest of your life.

max tyre size in qld is 10mm greater rolling circumference than stock tyres.
so biggest stock on a def 110 is 235/85 r 16 and a 10mm increase in rolling size still limits you to a 235/85 r 16

just because we are not getting pulled over and defected does not mean all is ok, just cops don't know all the rules and have other shit to do.

serg

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:50 pm
by Reddo
I doubt it would fail. Heim joints are used in race cars, aeroplanes and extensively in agricultural use. Tractors use them a lot in 3PLs and they are very very strong. Wear would be an issue, but should be reduced by adequate lubrication.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:23 am
by Euan
Good quality ones have a synthetic teflony liner on the bearing surface of the socket, but I reckon after a year or so in this application it would flog out. Pretty easy and cheap to just replace the rod end though.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:06 am
by Grizzly / Alex
i have seen another solution for 3link system by

http://www.rovertym.com/

and look for " rear A arm extension "

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:01 am
by 86MUD
I contacted rovertym in the US and the cost of their A arm extension is A$194.00 plus freight of about A$112 postage!

hmmm...decisions, decisions...

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:25 am
by Reddo
Still pricy. What about build one yourself?

I like this idea because you can tailor the length to rotate the pinion up and counter UJ bind up.

Rovertym are great. Pity we can't get away with teh stuff they do in the US of A.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:56 am
by 86MUD
Tempting to build one myself.... I don't have too much time on my hands at the moment as I have enough to do on my truck to get it ready for a trip in May

might just end up buying the Rovertym myself.

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:25 pm
by lokka
Gday all

ive had a few requests for these spacers and am having a go at a prototype at the moment made with sq tube and 8mm plate will take sum pics this w/end of my creation and let you guys have a look

Cheers

Chris

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:16 am
by 86MUD
Chris

I am very interested in this! Let me know how you go

Cheers

Andrew

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:26 am
by HSV Rangie
very easy to make:

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Michael.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:34 am
by 86MUD
Michael

Now you have insired me!

Can you tell me what size steel did you use?

Cheers

Andrew

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:40 am
by HSV Rangie
86MUD wrote:Michael

Now you have insired me!

Can you tell me what size steel did you use?

Cheers

Andrew
Middle pic:

10mm plate and 125*75 RHS cut to suit.

THe one shown in the car was made from solid steel block I had lying about and 10mm plate.

Michael.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:03 am
by 86MUD
Michael

Last question...what height did you make the spacer? 50mm?

Cheers

Andrew

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:17 am
by HSV Rangie
Made spacer to suit my spring lift.

about 75mm

Michael.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:05 pm
by 86MUD
looks like I will do the same

Thanks for your help

Cheers

Andrew