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The Jabber Is History !!!
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:16 am
by Bitsamissin
But will be ressurected........................
Most of you don't know but I rolled it late last year and it is a total write off.
I haven't said anything on the forum until the insurance and what I was going to do was sorted.
Basically on a Vicrawlers club trip climbing up a steep ledge and unknowingly the passenger rear axle snaps. The front wheels were off the ground and the only wheel with drive (drivers rear) screws the car around suddenly and against a tree on the passenger side front.
Because of the angle and loss of forward momentum the car had nowhere to go but over.
Barrel rolled twice pretty hard and ended up on it's side.
I was fine except for some bruises.
Two things that helped were the two cargo barriers helped keep the roof from caving in too much and having the seat belt on.
I also managed to turn off the ignition mid roll which probably saved any engine issues as once we winched it back onto it's wheels it started and was actually driveable.
Many thanks to the Vicrawlers who were amazing in helping out and were very concerned for my wellbeing - it wasn't easy for them as they were all feeling pretty shocked. Anyway the car was trailored back to Melbourne to Cheezy's workshop.
I'm happy to report that the insurance has been paid out - $13K + keep the wreck.
So I've just bought a 5sp silver GLX NJ 3.5V6 DOHC and in time Cheezy will swap the suspension and other goodies over to the new Jabber.
I paid $9K for this one with 12 months reg new valve stem seals, water pump, timing belt, plugs and some other bits & pieces. It's at the auto eleccy's getting some other work down at the moment.
So I'll end up having a heap of 3.0 Jabber spares - motor, gearbox/2.85 t-case etc for sale in the coming months.
Also highly recommend are TCIS insurance - no problems whatsoever with the claim. They will also re-insure the new Jabber for $621/yr - rating 1 for $18K agreed value.
One thing though I will not be doing any serious tracks until those rear axles are upgraded to full floaters !!!!!
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:41 am
by -Scott-
Bummer on your old bus, Frank.
Good news that you survived OK.
This could be the fastest, most comprehensive, Jabber build on record. Take pics!
Cheers,
Scott
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:26 am
by known 2
sad to hear about the nh it was an awsome truck, glad u got out ok though.
good luck on the new build.
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:33 pm
by pickle
Good to see your loyal to the brand, thought you might have gone the Nissan option after the rollover. Did ok on the insurance too! And glad too hear you are ok. Spose that counts out the Paj Challenge this year.
Dave
Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:00 pm
by 88pajero
Oh no man. I feel sorry for you, that was an amazing machine. Glad you werent hurt and glad you can salvage from it. Definately post pic of the rebirth
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 4:08 pm
by J Top
Hi Frank
I'm glad your ok.
Do you realy feel the 3.5 axles will need fully floating ?
Carl
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:21 pm
by awbeattie381
At least you were unharmed. Might consider getting a cargo barrier...
I agree with Scott, this could be one hell of a speedy rebuild. I also very happy you have chosen to stick with the pajero.
Pics of the newby please.
Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 9:29 pm
by HG
The Paj will roar again
I'm tipping that a roll cage will be on the order list too
.
I still can't get over how the rear axle let go and screwed the Paj hard left and then it was all over.
It certainly was a beast of a 4by and all I can think of is where the new Paj will go ---- the bar has been lifted again
.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:33 am
by Zute
Glad your Ok. Mark Two will be better.
I also have TCIS insurance and am pleased they looked after you. I now will have no problems recommending them to others.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:03 am
by PHIL
Holy crap Vic! Were you the only one onboard at the time? Good gracious! Glad you're okay. Shame about the Jabber, but at least you can say you're "upgrading" to the 3.5, right? Hard way to go about it though..
How in hell did you think about the ignition mid-roll...?
This one's pretty calm under pressure boys...
Here's to getting the new one on the road soon!
Phil
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:15 pm
by Rugrat
Hey Frank,
sorry to hear about the Jabber. Will presume you were solo -
BUT if you all walk away its
all good.
Cargo barriers are a must - Your roof / body looked pretty bad. (Anyone without one - GET ONE IN)
So I will presume your outa the Challenge? Shame? You could pinch Rusty's pwado or HG's 'ute' - i know you'd be lowering your standards
In my experience (only GIO) - most companies will pay out if :
a) what you were doing was legal and
b) its within the cars abilities.
No issues for me with the headon last Feb (should have sold you that 3.5ltr then
) or when the Misses Rolled the Pwadoin December. (2 write offs)
Keep smiling mate - sometime the depth drops enough for you to catch a breath
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:36 pm
by toastmaster
its good to hear you're ok, and didn't get f'ed by your insurance now which axle did you break the large 3.5l axle or the smaller one that comes with the 3.0?
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:39 pm
by PajeroSRV
You could pinch Rusty's pwado or HG's 'ute
Yeah sure, I'll bet Andrew can't wait to hand the truck over.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:27 pm
by Bitsamissin
Thanks guys, yes I was travelling solo at the time.
Sean don't worry the Prado and Surf will go just as far as mine (particularly at the moment) at the end of the day it really depends on the driver.
I heard you had the dreaded Prado front diff failure ?
Well we tried to warn you
TCIS were awesome - no problems whatsoever and this is my 2nd claim (remember the fire).
Yes no Paj Challenge for me this year and don't worry I've copped heaps
Carl the full floaters will be for the 3.0 axle as I want to keep the 5.29 and ARB locker. The 3.5 axle would no doubt be stronger as a full floater but my axle is already set up. A set of axles would only need to be made for the 3.5 later on if I want to upgrade as the flange/bearing arrangement will fit.
Mark believes the 3.5 axles are 50% stronger than the 3.0 but his full floaters will be 200% stronger over the 3.0 so I doubt I will be busting them.
He's done heaps for comp Rangies (Mike Smith etc) and none have broken so far and their still only 24 spline.
Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:32 pm
by M1S3RY
Holy pucker factor Batman, that's a shame to see your mighty Paj gone(ish) though it's good to hear that you are ok and you had no problems with the insurance. Hopefully your new one will be even better..
So what bits are for sale?
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:36 pm
by Ian Sharpe
Frank,
Bummer!!!!! Glad your OK.
Good that you have joined the club , ie the 3.5l club. Now you can make use of all that 3.5l stuff that you helped get developed, remember the locker & the gears!!!
Maybe you might want to shoe horn in another motor???
cheers
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:54 pm
by PajeroSRV
Ya know, I have to ask. For how many seconds / minutes did you consider going to the poo(trol) side of the force?
C'mon, you can tell us.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 5:37 pm
by Bitsamissin
Ohhh yes the 3.5 hauls arse alright heaps more grunt than the 3.0.
Down low there ain't much in it but once the 3.5 hits 3-3500rpm it leaves the 3.0 for dead.
Ian you added extractors and a chip to your old DOHC if I remember ?
Was it worth it ?
I'll be swapping the 3.0 rear axle into the 3.5 as it's already set up but the axles will be converted to full floaters as I said above.
Without doubt it will have 3.15's - I already have a 3.15 5sp t/case to swap in once I modify the selector rail.
Darius I don't know what I would have done if the insurance didn't pay out or if they did and wouldn't let me buy the wreck back.
I didn't seriously think about other options other than what I could afford to do if either happened.
I still would have stayed Pajero - too much unfinished business
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:06 pm
by suzuki boy
Lucky your alright! was an awsome ride but hopefully number 2's better!
Good luck with the build!
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:12 pm
by Ian Sharpe
Bitsamissin wrote:
Ian you added extractors and a chip to your old DOHC if I remember ?
Was it worth it ?
:
yeah Frank,
I had a dual map UniChip fitted & Genie headers. i also fitted 4.90 diff gears.
I had it dynoed by the installer & he showed me all sorts of graphs etc showing increases in torque & power, but I reckon it was BS as IMO it didnt go any harder than standard. maybe he didnt tune it right??
As an aside I have now fitted headers to my NL (original manifold cracked) & I can defintely feel a slight increase in performance but nothing spectacular IMO.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:17 pm
by revnkev
Glad to hear you are ok Frank,
sad about the Paj,
at least it can be replaced.
All the best with the new build up,
hope everything falls into place.
Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:02 pm
by Noisey
This thread is useless with just one pic.
I'm guessing it turned a few heads on the way home.
Not good to hear Frank - she was a good old bus and a great donor vehichle.
wow!!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:12 am
by offroader
Wow, Sorry to hear about the roll. I have to re-tout your presence of mind to shut off the engine mid-roll! Also it's amazing that your insurance covers it for off road activity!
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:01 pm
by Rugrat
Bitsamissin wrote:Thanks guys, yes I was travelling solo at the time.
Sean don't worry the Prado and Surf will go just as far as mine (particularly at the moment) at the end of the day it really depends on the driver.
I heard you had the dreaded Prado front diff failure ?
Well we tried to warn you
Yeah you did - but you gotta have a challenge - Only did 1 cv at Tallarook but did a lower ball joint prior which affectde the opposite sides cv.
Now I have the (supposed) indestructable pootrol.
Catch you on the tracks mate or at the club
Grab the wifes NP and bring that out on the Challenge - it will cope Stock Standard
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:57 pm
by pickle
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:32 pm
by hudson44
He He.... thats funny cause 3ltr's go Bang.
Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:27 pm
by j-top paj
can it still crawl over safeway gutters?
not good to hear about the roll mate, good to see your ok but
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:06 am
by psycronic
hows the drivers side mirror? Interested in selling it?
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:07 pm
by Hekta
Oh man I go away for a little while and look what happens!
Glad you're ok Frank. Look forward to seeing the ressurection
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:44 pm
by HG
Progress report is needed on the 2nd Gen Jabber