Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I know lights on top of the bullbar not legal.But are lights mounted on the roor legal, like on a roof rack.I see heaps of holdens and ford utes with big bull lights mounted to the roll bars on around hear .Have 4 on the top of my GQ.

simple answer




NO

Depends on what year model.

It also depends on what cop you get. EG My old 97 VS commodore ute had 4 square IPF on the roof, I have been defected for them but I have the paper work which states in the ADR that there not illegal.

Took it to the local pinkslip place showed him the defect and the paper work and he passed it with out removing the lights.

The police have the authourity to defect anything they find dangerous / illegal wether or not its illegal. It all comes down to how you drive and how you treat the individual cop.

Cheers Nick

When i got mine pinked, he said just take them off and it'l pass, i reversed out took them off and put them in the tray, drove back in and got the tick.

I have proved mine legal by the RTA (NSW). I had them rejected when getting a pink slip once .... In fact, the examiner took it upon themselves to remove them from my truck. I complained to the RTA…….. they contacted the examiner and told them they were legal for registration purposes and confirmed it in writing to me. Of course, the mechanic had to re-emburse me for removing the lights.

But yeah...... I think it all depends on the cop and how hard you want to fight things. They can still book you on technicalities if they want.

I have never been hassled.



Ricky

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

In victoria they are legal providing they do not interfere with the feild of vision or reflection specifications.... It can be done you just have to be very wary of where you are mounting them.

Cheers, Dan

Ruffy wrote:

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

In victoria they are legal providing they do not interfere with the feild of vision or reflection specifications.... It can be done you just have to be very wary of where you are mounting them.

Cheers, Dan

but is it worth getting hassled by RN every 5 minutes? the adrs?? say no more than 6 white lights pointing forward

Tiny wrote:

Ruffy wrote:

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

In victoria they are legal providing they do not interfere with the feild of vision or reflection specifications.... It can be done you just have to be very wary of where you are mounting them.

Cheers, Dan

but is it worth getting hassled by RN every 5 minutes? the adrs?? say no more than 6 white lights pointing forward

isnt there something about 1200mm is max height too?

The six foward facing lights still applies but the 1200mm rule went out in 99 i think and was backdated to 96 models on wards.

I just spoke to a bloke from the RTA vechile regulations in here and he said they are not illegal on vechiles after 96 but the cops will still defect you for it.

becasue of all the brotherly love and crap the RTA wont send out adr's to prove the cops wrong, you need to buy the adr cd which i should have by friday.

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

blackmav wrote:

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

but they are not "Spotlights".. there are other threads on why they are allowed and others not..

in qld legal ... every where else ... illegal

Big folder full of adr's does mention max height 1200mm for headlights/driving lights, Work lights are unlimited, only condition is they are not ment to be switched on from the drivers seat. easy solution have a master switch on the relays. i have 4 on the roof passed roadworthy passed reg and i see on average 3 cops a day to and from work.

Chook350 wrote:Big folder full of adr's does mention max height 1200mm for headlights/driving lights, Work lights are unlimited, only condition is they are not ment to be switched on from the drivers seat. easy solution have a master switch on the relays. i have 4 on the roof passed roadworthy passed reg and i see on average 3 cops a day to and from work.

How old are these ADR's champ ?

I'll have the latest edition hopefully friday and wondering if these will be the same.

Cheers Nick

bogged wrote:

blackmav wrote:

Tiny wrote:simple answer




NO

but they are not "Spotlights".. there are other threads on why they are allowed and others not..

Thats wrong these Jeeps and any any other vechile that are the same age or newer can have lights on the roof as long as they dont break any other ADR ruling.

Thats staright out of the mouth of a RTA Technical Enquires bloke that we deal with through work.

I tried to ring him back to get him to fax the documents but he had already left for the day.

in QLD i got pulled over in an rta blitz about 2 months ago had 4 rooflights and 2 on the bullbar he told me i had two take two lights off either on bullbar or 2 of roof as only 6 forward lights was alowed incl original car headlights

huub wrote:in QLD i got pulled over in an rta blitz about 2 months ago had 4 rooflights and 2 on the bullbar he told me i had two take two lights off either on bullbar or 2 of roof as only 6 forward lights was alowed incl original car headlights

we've never been pulled up for that ... our roof lights are always covered with blacked lenses while on the streets tho

as far as im aware they are legal to be there but illegal to be functional on the road so in other words while driving on the road they must be dissconnected or non functional but off road no problem

this is what i was told by the local RN a few years ago he let me off

CWBYUP wrote: How old are these ADR's champ ?

I'll have the latest edition hopefully friday and wondering if these will be the same.

Cheers Nick

Read and copyed that from trade school, i'm pretty sure that is was a 03 or 04 folder.
But if you have covers on the lights it shouldnt be a hassle. As i said work light(not for highway use)

i got done for my lux being an unpainted eyesore one week, it got alot of things wrong with it, all fixed now, but the copper said that they are legal if they have covers on them (eg hella 160, come with white covers)

soc over em up and it should do

outback_lux wrote:i got done for my lux being an unpainted eyesore one week, it got alot of things wrong with it, all fixed now, but the copper said that they are legal if they have covers on them (eg hella 160, come with white covers)

soc over em up and it should do

I have 2x LF240s on the front, and 4x Hella 181's on top... and also run the white covers when onroad. I havn't had an issue yet.

If you search for "Australian Design Rule" at http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ you should find pages of ADRs.

As far as i was aware, in NSW as long as you have the White covers on and switching of highbeam you can have anywhere

A mate went to local RTA this morning and asked about his Rallye 2000's on his roll bar. They replied "over 1.6 metres?, then it is illegal"

Old mate then rang NSW RTA technical services at 9:30am 8/Feb.
They asked "over 1.2 metres?"
He replied yes
They replied "illegal".

Old mate then went to cop shop station and asked copper. He said 'dunno, but go ask that bloke over there'. Other bloke said 'yes'.

bushy555 wrote:A mate went to local RTA this morning and asked about his Rallye 2000's on his roll bar. They replied "over 1.6 metres?, then it is illegal"

Old mate then rang NSW RTA technical services at 9:30am 8/Feb.
They asked "over 1.2 metres?"
He replied yes
They replied "illegal".

Old mate then went to cop shop station and asked copper. He said 'dunno, but go ask that bloke over there'. Other bloke said 'yes'.

Thanks for the info looks like they will coming off.

keep them on there and say that new jeeps have them on the roof off the factory line, why cant i?

Have left them on.BUT have put a trailer plug so they can be disconnected while they are not in use.And i will put some light covers on them.That should cover most of my bases.

Old mate is also going to leave them there.
He be 60 next year and a bloody hoon driving a brand spanker new ute and first thing he did was chuck his lights up there yesterday.
On his old FJ47 cruiser he had four bull lights mounted *on top* across of his bullbar. They, of course, be illegal, so he modified it so that all four lights could swing down when driving around. He also got four little vinyl covers made up with drawstrings, which go over the entire light to keep rain out - especially when folded flat.
His idea now is to chuck two of them vinyl covers over the lights when driving around town and take them off when wanna use them. PITA, and looks dopey, but kinda the only way in order to keep them up there.

I've taken all my lights off from the roof yonks ago and mounted them all around the bullbar. Still illegal, but sort of less likely to be an *instant* target.

...just dont go to Deni's ute show with any lights on the bar or roof whilst driving to/from there. Aint worth it.

As others have said. If they are covered, they are perfectly legal on the roof.