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To sell without RWC ???

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:55 pm
by richobro's
Hey jus looking for some advice, im thinking about selling my zook, but with no RWC as i dont really have time to get it to that point also it is quite modified with quite a lot of goodies, i plan on selling it with rego cos i know it wont be worth much without it. is there anyway to do this at least half sorta legal?? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:18 pm
by pcman
remove the plates tell them to contact you when they have rwc and you will give them the plates back

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:20 pm
by Ruffy
No. Legally you only have two choices. One is to sell the car registered with a roadworthy. The second is to hand in the plates, cancel the rego and sell it as is.
Illegally you can sell the car with the plates on, still registered, get a letter signed from the purchaser stating time and date (to cover you for infringments) and that the car was sold with plates.... but if you get caught out you get fined. Also if the purchaser doesn't get it R/W or gets a speeding ticket etc it will fall back on you even though you have the letter :)
Cheers, Dan

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:24 pm
by cloughy
Its simple.... Just complete the transfer papers and pay your hard earned, the lady will ask for RWC, say you don't have one, the buyer of your car will then have 28 days to produce a RWC(more like 2 months but the time you recieve the letter) or they will suspend the rego

Car is out of you name and they still have they reg. with 4 weeks to act

The rest of the story was, once the letter came, you went to the local Vicroads saying how there was a RWC supplied and they farked up, yell and scream and they would complete they transfer :D but last time i tried it didn't work like my numerous past experiences :x

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:29 pm
by shakes
go get a rwc check $70 or thereabouts. and get a qoute on the work

that way you know exactly what needs doing... find your buyer, say no rwc but, can supply with rwc and rego for this much etc.

cloughy's way dont work no more :?

as ruffy said. hold the plates until they get a rwc too, vicroads will question it but you wont have a drama

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:51 pm
by RN
Your supposed to either:
sell car with RWC which was obtained no longer than 30 days of sale.

or

No rwc..take plates to Vicroads and inform them that you have disposed of the vehicle. They will suspend the rego and will release the plates to the new owner on receipt of a RWC. Hand the disposal form into Vicroads then and there. If you hand the disposal forms to the new owner then you are risk that they may not do the transfer and then watch the speed camera files roll in to YOU.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:58 pm
by richobro's
thanks very much guys i'll consider the options an see how i go. p.s anyone wanna buy a zook , hehe
Thanks again!

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:40 pm
by lokka
move to nsw

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:06 pm
by embryo
richobro's wrote: anyone wanna buy a zook ,
does it come with RWC :finger: :D :finger: :D :finger:

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:08 pm
by chimpboy
Also, it is a SHITLOAD easier to sell a vehicle with RWC. Something to consider, although I know it's a hassle.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:08 pm
by cloughy
shakes wrote:go get a rwc check $70 or thereabouts. and get a qoute on the work

that way you know exactly what needs doing... find your buyer, say no rwc but, can supply with rwc and rego for this much etc.

cloughy's way dont work no more :?

as ruffy said. hold the plates until they get a rwc too, vicroads will question it but you wont have a drama
Yea :roll: the transfer without RWC still works quite fine, i did it no more than 3 months ago, its the latter part of my story that no longer works ;)

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:02 pm
by Ruffy
cloughy wrote:Yea :roll: the transfer without RWC still works quite fine, i did it no more than 3 months ago, its the latter part of my story that no longer works ;)
That will depend on who serves you behind the counter. Technically the Vicroads staff are not meant to accept a transfer without a roadworthy. But somehow it still happens.
Vicroads are dodgy as

Re: To sell without RWC ???

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:16 pm
by bogged
richobro's wrote:i plan on selling it with rego cos i know it wont be worth much without it
it wont be worth much without a roady either...

Re: To sell without RWC ???

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:20 pm
by ISUZUROVER
bogged wrote:
richobro's wrote:i plan on selling it with rego cos i know it wont be worth much without it
it wont be worth much without a roady either...
Unroadworthy vehicles with lots of mods (i.e. lots of good bits like lockers) are often worth more as parts.

Re: To sell without RWC ???

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:27 pm
by bogged
ISUZUROVER wrote:
bogged wrote:
richobro's wrote:i plan on selling it with rego cos i know it wont be worth much without it
it wont be worth much without a roady either...
Unroadworthy vehicles with lots of mods (i.e. lots of good bits like lockers) are often worth more as parts.
sad but true..

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:16 pm
by cloughy
Ruffy wrote:
cloughy wrote:Yea :roll: the transfer without RWC still works quite fine, i did it no more than 3 months ago, its the latter part of my story that no longer works ;)
That will depend on who serves you behind the counter. Technically the Vicroads staff are not meant to accept a transfer without a roadworthy. But somehow it still happens.
Vicroads are dodgy as
Very true, what you said is spot on, i'm just telling you what happens in reality :D

I was in vicroads today getting a moving permit, and the counter women, says to the bloke today doing a transfer, you have 28 days to bring in that RWC :armsup:

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:52 pm
by chimpboy
cloughy wrote:
Ruffy wrote:
cloughy wrote:Yea :roll: the transfer without RWC still works quite fine, i did it no more than 3 months ago, its the latter part of my story that no longer works ;)
That will depend on who serves you behind the counter. Technically the Vicroads staff are not meant to accept a transfer without a roadworthy. But somehow it still happens.
Vicroads are dodgy as
Very true, what you said is spot on, i'm just telling you what happens in reality :D

I was in vicroads today getting a moving permit, and the counter women, says to the bloke today doing a transfer, you have 28 days to bring in that RWC :armsup:
The problem is that if it happens sometimes, depending on which lazy staff member you get, it's not really a good basis for doing a car sale worth a few grand. No good counting on being able to dodgy the RWC system and then finding out that you get the strict vicroads guy that day.

Personally I wouldn't pay a few thousand dollars for a vehicle on the hope that I can sneak through Vicroads and get my RWC later.

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:06 pm
by bogged
chimpboy wrote:Personally I wouldn't pay a few thousand dollars for a vehicle on the hope that I can sneak through Vicroads and get my RWC later.
I wouldnt buy a car that didnt have a roady, if its that hard for the seller to get one, what chance do I have... Maybe if it had the roady that it failed on so I knew what it needed to fix it up, then thats different, but the price would drop by 100s ....

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 4:07 pm
by cloughy
chimpboy wrote:
cloughy wrote:
Ruffy wrote:
cloughy wrote:Yea :roll: the transfer without RWC still works quite fine, i did it no more than 3 months ago, its the latter part of my story that no longer works ;)
That will depend on who serves you behind the counter. Technically the Vicroads staff are not meant to accept a transfer without a roadworthy. But somehow it still happens.
Vicroads are dodgy as
Very true, what you said is spot on, i'm just telling you what happens in reality :D

I was in vicroads today getting a moving permit, and the counter women, says to the bloke today doing a transfer, you have 28 days to bring in that RWC :armsup:
The problem is that if it happens sometimes, depending on which lazy staff member you get, it's not really a good basis for doing a car sale worth a few grand. No good counting on being able to dodgy the RWC system and then finding out that you get the strict vicroads guy that day.

Personally I wouldn't pay a few thousand dollars for a vehicle on the hope that I can sneak through Vicroads and get my RWC later.
That's a fair enough comment, but considering it has never failed with the 30 odd cars that i've used the same procedure, i think i'll continue to take the gamble :D

And when you get the notice to tell you to produce the RWC it actually states the requirement's listing........ a roadworthy must be produced within 28 days of transfer of vehicle ;)

Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:07 pm
by toyotroop
bogged wrote:
chimpboy wrote:Personally I wouldn't pay a few thousand dollars for a vehicle on the hope that I can sneak through Vicroads and get my RWC later.
I wouldnt buy a car that didnt have a roady, if its that hard for the seller to get one, what chance do I have... Maybe if it had the roady that it failed on so I knew what it needed to fix it up, then thats different, but the price would drop by 100s ....
Good point bogged, I hadnt thought of that.