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80 Series: Polyairs in 3" lift?
Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:12 pm
by ET4Runner
Got an 80 with 2" OME suspension lift; decided to put some 30mm spacers in, and at the same time I bought some 'Airlift' airbags (exactly the same as Polyairs, but half the price) to put in.
Anyhow, spacers go in, then we put the bags in (removing bumpstops as per instructions), and they're about 80mm too short
Here's the question:
Do I have the wrong bags, or should there have been (or can I get) spacers to 'fill' above the airbags? The spacers would have to fit within the coil, and have a hole down the centre for the air line.
Any ideas???
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:41 am
by keencdk
If it is an early 80 series, the springs are longer than the later 80 series, but not 80mm longer.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 9:29 pm
by ET4Runner
Nah, it's a '95 model.
2" lift, but don't forget I've removed the bump stops, because that's what the instructions said to do.
Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:23 pm
by simkell
is that wit the axle at full droop or at normal height?
try fitting them at rest, weight on axle
Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:08 pm
by ET4Runner
Normal height (as in they're in, and I'm driving it around).
I'm thinking of trimming down the bump stops, and having them 'float' on top of the bag, with the air line up through the centre.
Anyone else done something similar?
Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:23 pm
by mick80
hey lad i used to have same set up just had a spacer under air bag i still have them in now i got a four inch i made some coil dropouts to suit the airbags still works fine they are made to suit no lift so if you got 80mm you spacer the same
cheers mick
Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:44 am
by dieseldude
Isn't it a case that you fill the air bags so that they fill the voids between the coils of the 'coil springs' in order to limit how much compression you get? Obviously with a lift such as yours you would end up with progressive coils????????????????????????
This is my understanding of how these things are supposed to work. As far as I'm aware they're not meant to act as bump stops in that manner. After all, doesn't the air fitting come out of one of the ends (top or bottom) - wouldn't this result in the fitting getting squashed and possibly damaged / ripped off on compression?
I'd be interested to find out what you work out in regards to this as I'm looking at getting some for my 100 series.
Cheers,
Anthony
Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 8:19 pm
by mick80
dieseldude look at my avatar i have polyairs have awesome tuck they still work lad
cheers mick
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:37 pm
by ET4Runner
mick80 wrote:dieseldude look at my avatar i have polyairs have awesome tuck they still work lad
cheers mick
Cheers everyone. Mick80 any chance you could post a larger pick of that so I can get a better look (most nights my eyes are shot; too many beers in my lifetime
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dieseldude, you're right about the fitting; we did mine the same as a mates Polyairs with the hose fitting out the top, through the (now vacant) hole for the bump-stop retaining bolt (had to expand hole a little); then hoses go along chassis to valves mounted in rear bumper each side. Also correct in what you say regarding their effect; when inflated, they expand more horizontally ("in the void" as you said), supporting the coil, not vertically (much anyway).
I was planning on a spacer with a hole down the centre, 'floating' on top of the bag, but Mick's setup (under the bag) seems a better option. Next q is, where do I get these?
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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:47 am
by dieseldude
Mate,
From memory, the 'camel' 105 series that they did up for touring in the 4wd monthly mags had polyairs installed. I recall reading that they fitted blocks underneath the bags. As such, I'd be trying Opposite Lock. I think they stated that they were only $25 each or something.
Maybe worth a phone call because I guess this proves that such a product is available off the shelf.
Regards
Anthony
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:42 pm
by ET4Runner
dieseldude wrote:Mate,
From memory, the 'camel' 105 series that they did up for touring in the 4wd monthly mags had polyairs installed. I recall reading that they fitted blocks underneath the bags. As such, I'd be trying Opposite Lock. I think they stated that they were only $25 each or something.
Maybe worth a phone call because I guess this proves that such a product is available off the shelf.
Regards
Anthony
Ah, tops. Cheers!