The time has come to buy my daughter a car to play in., and Ive decided to do up a suzi. What I am after, is suggestions on a replacement motor for it. What I have looked at so far is a turbo diesel motor out of a Holden Gemini, or a ‘DTH’ 1.9-litre turbo-diesel out of an Astra, both of which are reletively easy to come by. The only problem i guess would be to match it to the suzi 5 speed.... Has anyone done a little turbo diesel engine before?
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[b]Suggestions on Suzuki Engine Conversion[/b]
Not sure if its turbo diesel but there is a toyota motor that they put in them!(Some one will know!)
These are the motors that people use!
This one has a isuzu motor running gas!
Didn't notice till i saw the pic! 
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one is like 3 motors in one!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one has a cino in it!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
I think the most common are the vitara and some people do the cino's with a turbo!
Hope it helped you out!
These are the motors that people use!
This one has a isuzu motor running gas!
Didn't notice till i saw the pic! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one is like 3 motors in one!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one has a cino in it!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
I think the most common are the vitara and some people do the cino's with a turbo!
Hope it helped you out!
Built swb sierra, building a lwb sierra ute and have a dmax for family camping
You do realise they are all the same listing.suzuki boy wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one is like 3 motors in one!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one has a cino in it!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
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http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html 
this is one of the motors I'm thinking on putting in mine
that or a 2 litre mopar motor
this is one of the motors I'm thinking on putting in mine
that or a 2 litre mopar motor
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Depending on the weight of the motor too, they will kill the balance of a zook, much like a commodore V6 would. If you could find a modern light weight high reving diesel, thn thats a different story. Instead of tryign to match your new motor to the sierra gearbox, why not use the new motors box (possibly even auto) then a custom jack shaft to the transfer.
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That's the old Keltec kit, now that VW's are more common in oz it'd be an option... not sure how many diesels they are importing though or what they weigh...ofr57 wrote:http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html
this is one of the motors I'm thinking on putting in mine
that or a 2 litre mopar motor
I did contemplate the landrover 5cyl TDi out of the Freelander, but never really followed up on it.
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jtraf did a diesel Gemini engine conversion on his brothers Sierra a few years back. So it is possible maybe pm him about details. Also do a bit of a search on here as there havve been a few threads about this.
The Keltec conversion is very nice. I wheeled with a few of them manny years ago inthe US and they worked great and were a very neat install.
The Keltec conversion is very nice. I wheeled with a few of them manny years ago inthe US and they worked great and were a very neat install.
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84ZOOKSTA wrote:You do realise they are all the same listing.suzuki boy wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one is like 3 motors in one!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one has a cino in it!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
He still got the message though i guesse!Built swb sierra, building a lwb sierra ute and have a dmax for family camping
I guess a turbo diesel motor isnt that common, and also,I didnt want the vehicle to be "overly fast" as Im not the one driving it. Thats when I decided to pursue the diesel option.zookdave wrote:any real reason for a turbo-diesel??? they arent a very common or easy conversion rather go for a popular one such as a Vitara 1.6 efi etc.
suzuki boy wrote:84ZOOKSTA wrote:You do realise they are all the same listing.suzuki boy wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one is like 3 motors in one!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
This one has a cino in it!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SUZUKI-SIERRA-HI ... dZViewItem
Yeah, I know what you meant. If I was down his way, i'd probably consider it
overly fast? that doesn't go in the same sentence as Suzuki sierra, unless its followed by "not". i would be WAAAY more worried about the lack of side impact bars and the smallness/crushable-nessbakesy wrote:I guess a turbo diesel motor isnt that common, and also,I didnt want the vehicle to be "overly fast" as Im not the one driving it. Thats when I decided to pursue the diesel option.zookdave wrote:any real reason for a turbo-diesel??? they arent a very common or easy conversion rather go for a popular one such as a Vitara 1.6 efi etc.
of the car before speed. Thats if it was for my daughter [although i don't have a daughter ]. A turbo Diesel sierra would probably be quicker than the 1.3 too 
and much cooler suzuki boy wrote:If it's not going off road wack a vn holden engine in it and it will go like the clappers!
But you said you don't want it to go too fast why not keep the stock 1.3?
A stock 1.3 was the very first option, but finding a good one proved to be all too much. Then the re-fuel options came to mind, with everything machinery at my house running diesel i couldnt go past it. Then to top it off, a bloke mentioned the GEM motors. Thats the story thus far
Taff wrote:overly fast? that doesn't go in the same sentence as Suzuki sierra, unless its followed by "not". i would be WAAAY more worried about the lack of side impact bars and the smallness/crushable-nessbakesy wrote:I guess a turbo diesel motor isnt that common, and also,I didnt want the vehicle to be "overly fast" as Im not the one driving it. Thats when I decided to pursue the diesel option.zookdave wrote:any real reason for a turbo-diesel??? they arent a very common or easy conversion rather go for a popular one such as a Vitara 1.6 efi etc.
And then there is the cool factor 
The Gem diesel gearbox is rather long for a SWB sierra. leaving very little space for the jack shaft between the gear box and T/case (though it has successfully been done) from memory it was very low geared and really needed taller rubber to be useful at highway speeds (the lil diesel does not like to be reved to hard for extended periods)bakesy wrote:suzuki boy wrote:If it's not going off road wack a vn holden engine in it and it will go like the clappers!
But you said you don't want it to go too fast why not keep the stock 1.3?
A stock 1.3 was the very first option, but finding a good one proved to be all too much. Then the re-fuel options came to mind, with everything machinery at my house running diesel i couldn't go past it. Then to top it off, a bloke mentioned the GEM motors. That's the story thus far
I have been tinkering with Zuks for the past 10 years now I guess and I am convinced that the best bang for buck engine swap is still the good old carbie 8V 1.6 vit motor if it is to be a mostly on road/tourer type vehicle as the swap itself is very strait forward and mechanically simple, you keep all the existing gauges/senders with only tiny mods to the vehicles loom.
If it to be a bit more adventurous and run bit larger rubber and do a bit more off road type stuff the 16v 1.6 EFI is the go, a bit more poke and better off camber performance, but a lot more involved install, you start reaching/testing the limits of the standard sierra gearbox and clutch (if driven hard) Still a pretty mechanically strait forward install, but the wiring etc is a lot more involved, as is finding a suitable fuel tank with the correct high pressure fuel pump.
If you were not going to off road it hard I would simply buy a 16V 1.6 vitara with Air conditioning and power steering, whack on some quality suspension 235's and drive the wee out of it .. much more user friendly vehicle, better ride and handling more creature comforts still a very capable little machine .. and no need to stuff about with re powering.
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I have done the deisel Gemi conversion and it did go very well.......
Everything is custom........I fitted it to a 1.0lt SWB sierra and the conversion was very neat and looked factory to the untrained eye......
I moved the transfer back 30mm and ran a VW CV as a jackshaft between the gemi deisel gearbox and the transfer case.......
As a road car for your daughter don't do it........As an offroad it was awsome....the extra weight up front didn't effect the Little beast at all.....if anything it just made it crawl up places other sierra's had trouble........other guys in the club can attest to this....
For easy of servicability just go for something newer..........and stockish..........
other than that if you are still interested just ask away........
James
Everything is custom........I fitted it to a 1.0lt SWB sierra and the conversion was very neat and looked factory to the untrained eye......
I moved the transfer back 30mm and ran a VW CV as a jackshaft between the gemi deisel gearbox and the transfer case.......
As a road car for your daughter don't do it........As an offroad it was awsome....the extra weight up front didn't effect the Little beast at all.....if anything it just made it crawl up places other sierra's had trouble........other guys in the club can attest to this....
For easy of servicability just go for something newer..........and stockish..........
other than that if you are still interested just ask away........
James
jtraf wrote:I have done the deisel Gemi conversion and it did go very well.......
Everything is custom........I fitted it to a 1.0lt SWB sierra and the conversion was very neat and looked factory to the untrained eye......
I moved the transfer back 30mm and ran a VW CV as a jackshaft between the gemi deisel gearbox and the transfer case.......
As a road car for your daughter don't do it........As an offroad it was awsome....the extra weight up front didn't effect the Little beast at all.....if anything it just made it crawl up places other sierra's had trouble........other guys in the club can attest to this....
For easy of servicability just go for something newer..........and stockish..........
other than that if you are still interested just ask away........
James
I hear what your saying, and to clarify, my daughter is 10 years old, so it wont be doing any tarmac, its just gonna be another car to save her from driving my GU wagon (which she often does in low 4 around our rural area) but the conversion will give me flexability if it were ever to see the open road
If thats the case just get yourself an old dunger jackeroo/dudlux etc .. already diesaled up ...bakesy wrote:
I hear what your saying, and to clarify, my daughter is 10 years old, so it wont be doing any tarmac, its just gonna be another car to save her from driving my GU wagon (which she often does in low 4 around our rural area) but the conversion will give me flexability if it were ever to see the open road
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