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strong landrover diffs

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strong landrover diffs

Post by modman »

i have been offered fc 101 diffs (salisburys f + r)
they are to go in a s3 project sprung over on hilux leafs
they will bolt in, matching steering and brakes.
i can also get it engineered with drums!
i want to run 38's
the diffs can be bought for $2100 and come with side gears to suit arb lockers ( the sweetener)
i know they have larger cv's, larger axles stronger r+p, wider drun to drum and 5.58 ratio
does anyone have experience with these diffs or any other options
:?: :?: :?: :?: ( it doesn't have to be LR based)
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Post by JSBriggs »

That is a great set up. A buddy of mine uses them (with 38" tires) without any proplems. Some pics can be seen on his website. www.bcboffroad.com
Here is a nice comparison of a 101cv with a defender cv
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Post by mickrangie »

:D
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Post by zzzz »

these tim's diffs? :)
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Post by modman »

yup, he's sticken with the portals(so would i if i had 2 sets!!!)
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Post by modman »

jeff, coopers rig is cool!
sprung over like i want to do.
does he use any anti-wrap type of bar to stop pinion damage.
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Post by JSBriggs »

No, he doesn't have any anti spring wrap devices/arms. He has lenghtened front frame horns, and is using rear springs up front, and is using Chevy 1/2 ton springs in the back.
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Post by mickrangie »

that is cool!!
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Yeh, that is one PHAT series!!!!! :D
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Post by modman »

i've scanned every pic on bcb's site to look at coopers rig.
i'm also interested in their part time conversion for the lt 230
i wish they had a catalogue of their gear!!
all the stuff i see on the bcb site makes me drool big time, i'm learning metal fabrication and machining part time, so i hope i can attampt this kind of stuff in the future
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Post by modman »

i've scanned every pic on bcb's site to look at coopers rig.
i'm also interested in their part time conversion for the lt 230
i wish they had a catalogue of their gear!!
all the stuff i see on the bcb site makes me drool big time, i'm learning metal fabrication and machining part time, so i hope i can attampt this kind of stuff in the future
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Post by bj on roids »

anyone got a pic of a FC101? Or is that on above there? ?!?
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Post by landy_man »

go take a look here for the history of the FC101..... every landyman's dream vehicle...
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/ecars/Mil/ ... FC101.html

here is 1 pic to tempt you
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Post by JSBriggs »

bj on roids wrote:anyone got a pic of a FC101? Or is that on above there? ?!?


That is a series 1 109" pickup......with attitude. :D It does have a 101 front axle though. He is also running an ENV rear which is large like a Salsbury, but has a drop out carrier like the rover style diff.

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Post by GURU »

So does anyone know where I can get a pair of FC101 diffs from ??
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

DAS wrote:So does anyone know where I can get a pair of FC101 diffs from ??


Hey get in line :D

Good luck though, there were probably only 15 complete FC101's that made it to Australia for army testing, so unless there have been lots of personal imports I don't like your chances.
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Post by bazzle »

Landrover 4x4 in Mountain hwy Bayswater has 101s :lol:

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cheers guys.
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Re: strong landrover diffs

Post by JSBriggs »

modman wrote:does anyone have experience with these diffs or any other options
:?: :?: :?: :?: ( it doesn't have to be LR based)



As far as nonLR based Axles, the Dana 60 axles found in 3/4-1 Ton American trucks are very similar/comperable to the Salsbury axles. There are differences, but the gears (r/p) are interchangable between the two.

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Post by modman »

i am now the proud owner of landrover fc 101 salisbury diffs!!
this project will be built from the ground up, starting with strong diffs to run 38" tsl swampers.
anyone after fc 101 diffs, maybe call anthony at british 4x4 bayswater vic. or bill at offroad rover, be warned, they're not cheap!!
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Post by landy_man »

what sort of money are we talking.... PM me if you like...
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Post by ISUZUROVER »

I'm interested in a rough idea of the price too...
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Might as well come clean and throw the dollars on the table.... :D
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Post by modman »

peolpe to ask are-
bill at offroad rover
anthony at british4x4(vic)
4x4motors bayswater
mine were a very good deal, try these places first
expect to pay 1k$ or more an end very second hand.
mal at maxidrive may also have c/v's available
imagine- rover housing, hilux centre and axles, 101 c/v's
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Post by landy_man »

which cv would be stronger.... a 101FC or Toyota Longfield..... Just because the 101 cv is bigger does not mean it is stronger....
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Post by modman »

not too sure landyman, but there is a guy doing burnout comps in a fc 101with a 454 chev.
he has broken all the driveline at one time or another, but never the diffs
thats 4 wd burnouts!!!!
axle sizes are larger, inner and outer, that helps in strength.
longfield, corefield- is this just dropping the rockwell to 40 and welding a ring on the outer shell??
i believe on full lock, lockers engaged and 38's, when a single front tire grabs and the rest slip the 101 c/v's would be stronger.
just my 2c
maybe sam would have greater knowledge on the finer points of c/v strength
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Post by landy_man »

modman wrote:not too sure landyman, but there is a guy doing burnout comps in a fc 101with a 454 chev.
he has broken all the driveline at one time or another, but never the diffs
thats 4 wd burnouts!!!!


:shock: :shock: got video

they sure are a strong setup....we need to chat with sam :D
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Post by modman »

easy there champ!!
i am still trying to figure out how to post pictures!!
for ease of set-up longfeilds would be the go, disk brakes standard.
i'm looking but i think the "longfield" process involves heating the cv to 680 c then cooling to room temp. this reduces rockwell to 60??
anyway this would help with the shatter breaking effect
the ring is welded on the outer shell to give more strength on turning . more material more strength i guess??
i asked a metal fab mate and he reckons its dead easy to do!!
any one want to try it out
any one know the complete (read correct) longfield proccess :P :P
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Post by GURU »

bill at offroad rover
anthony at british4x4(vic)
4x4motors bayswater

Does anyone have some phone numbers for these places ??
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Post by rick130 »

from what I can understand of Bobby Long's process is that the CV is annealed, the ring welded on to the out side, re-heat treated to a lower R-c figure (can't remember) and then a cryogenic (liquid nitrogen) process is used, and this supposedly helps. Maybe it subtly stress relieves without the annealing you would get with heat ??

Personally, I'd use a 101 cv over the Longfield, bigger just has to be better !
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