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are BFG as bad as they say?
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are BFG as bad as they say?
iv done some research latley to decide what tyres i will purchase next in a mud terrain and i can get BFG's the cheepest about $30 cheeper then any other tyre in that size and i just want to know are they realy as bad as what people say? are the sidewalls pox and do they clog up with mud all the time? I will be doing mostly mud driving and vic highcountry hills rivers etc, can they handle it ?
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http://forum.mudrhino.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=262&start=30
http://forum.mudrhino.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=262&start=30
havnt got any complaints about mine yet
seemed to work better than my mates nankang mudpoofs last weekend at the wattos
seemed to work better than my mates nankang mudpoofs last weekend at the wattos
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Same here. The mud in the beads is a PITA but I reckon the tyres perform pretty well.4runner2.8 wrote:the new style ones cop heaps of dirt in the bead, a day at toolangie in the mud and you will have a few flat tyres the next morning. other then that i think there an awsome tyre, they handle well in all conditions. why they ever changed from the old style i dont know.
Re: are BFG as bad as they say?
I had the "old style", then MTR's, then the "new style"... then back to MTR's.
Basically if I could still buy the older ones I'd give em another go.
The current BFG's squirm on the road when on the GQ, you hit a round about at a bit of pace in dry, and they just roll and squirm on the tread, not a sliding feel, but the blocks move - that was 36psi... The MTR's just dont, but are as good offroad, so I see as a better all round tire.
If you can afford 2 sets, it is the best option.
Basically if I could still buy the older ones I'd give em another go.
The current BFG's squirm on the road when on the GQ, you hit a round about at a bit of pace in dry, and they just roll and squirm on the tread, not a sliding feel, but the blocks move - that was 36psi... The MTR's just dont, but are as good offroad, so I see as a better all round tire.
If you can afford 2 sets, it is the best option.
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I have had 33" BFG on my family GU thay throw mud out of the tread they do pick up dirt in the beed. I run them at 20 PSI when playing & thay deform ang grip great.
I have 35 " on Brutus for general running arround no complants .
You just have to go by price @ the end of the day thay both are good.
I have 35 " on Brutus for general running arround no complants .
You just have to go by price @ the end of the day thay both are good.
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I think MTRs are a batter all round tyre bang for buck next to the BFG, the BFGs are a good tyre, certainly heaps better than a cooper, but at the end of the day they only way to find a tyre to suit your vehicle, driving style, terrain etc is to try a few different tyres over time
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Doesnt this have more to do with the type of rim your running as well?Emo wrote:Same here. The mud in the beads is a PITA but I reckon the tyres perform pretty well.4runner2.8 wrote:the new style ones cop heaps of dirt in the bead, a day at toolangie in the mud and you will have a few flat tyres the next morning. other then that i think there an awsome tyre, they handle well in all conditions. why they ever changed from the old style i dont know.
Got both the old style of BFG muds on 8" Hurricane rims (67,000 klicks and 8 years) and current style on 8" steel sunraysia's (30,000+ klicks)
Muds be like any other tyre. Drive over a slasher, a steel post or a very pointy tree stump and gonna stuff ya tyre. Other than that I reckon they be sweet.
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Ive been running my BFG muds for over 40 000kms and they are wearing quite well for what they are, still got another easy 30-40 000km's in them. I do very little mud driving but i reckon they feel great on 'fast' gravel roads.
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Oh and they look great!
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No loss of pressure and zero punchers.
Oh and they look great!
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why don,t you look at maxxis thay have some great tyers and cheep
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My muddies on my work 100 series spend 90 percent of their time on the gravel, dirt or rocks around Toolangi. The grip well and I have a lot of confindence in their road holding in the wet, dry, powder etc on dirt and bitumen, even in Toolangi mud.
The only problems I have had with them are sidewalls letting go after just touching a stick or rock totally destroying the tyres. They seem to have paper thin sidewalls and with our dozen or so work cars fitted with them, we are replacing (not through worn out, through destroyed) at least a tyre a week. Somebody above us thinks they are a great tyre and they are all we are allowed to get. They get mud in the beads a lot too.
I run procomps on my own personal car (more $ but if you are doing a lot of offroad driving you will save it in not replacing tyres all of the time) they seem to have much better sidewalls.
The only problems I have had with them are sidewalls letting go after just touching a stick or rock totally destroying the tyres. They seem to have paper thin sidewalls and with our dozen or so work cars fitted with them, we are replacing (not through worn out, through destroyed) at least a tyre a week. Somebody above us thinks they are a great tyre and they are all we are allowed to get. They get mud in the beads a lot too.
I run procomps on my own personal car (more $ but if you are doing a lot of offroad driving you will save it in not replacing tyres all of the time) they seem to have much better sidewalls.
Re: are BFG as bad as they say?
for what you wanna do, buy some At's or weekdays, and them save for some Simex for weekends.. best of all worlds
I too get crap in the bead, but a great tyre.
Would not bother about 2 sets of tyres unless you go fairly hard on the same stuff like just rocks or just mud. Pain in the arse changing tyres over every weekend just for a play. The BFG M/Ts do fine for a road tyre and off road tyre.
Would not bother about 2 sets of tyres unless you go fairly hard on the same stuff like just rocks or just mud. Pain in the arse changing tyres over every weekend just for a play. The BFG M/Ts do fine for a road tyre and off road tyre.
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had the bfg muds and changed to mtrs after , no way i would change back the bfg seemed to have more noise on road , heaps more punctures too i had three in the one tyre in a 35 straight through the block in the tread on a easy track . would definately say go the mtrs so much better tyre , especially on rocks mud tracks and especially on wet roads don't lock up and slide like the bfg muds ( fronts used to always slide out , plus rears under braking ) . plus they have a better sidewall and much better wear rate and they wear evenly not scallop like the bfgs . just my opinion .
I like my BFG mud's apart from the dirt in the rim thing, have never tried some MT/R's, but ahve seen them in action a number of times. Great on Rock, not so good on mud (as the BFG), simply looking at the tread will confirm this.
A test I saw some time ago showed the BFG having the lowest RPM req'd to clear the tread.
Bear in mind this is not saying the MT/R is no good, it just the conditions they get used in and a personal situation.
NJ
A test I saw some time ago showed the BFG having the lowest RPM req'd to clear the tread.
Bear in mind this is not saying the MT/R is no good, it just the conditions they get used in and a personal situation.
NJ
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A BFG rep told me you should run tubes in the new style M/T's if you are deflating below 22psi. That is when the crap really gets trapped in the bead.
Apart from that they are a brilliant gripping and great self cleaning mud terrain tyre with that classic tread pattern.
I came a close second in the final of a recent mud drags events using 33" BFG's against the NissCommercial MQ Shorty (Cliffhanger entrant) he had 35" Simex ET's. He was using low range, I probably would have too but was going well enough in high range.
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Apart from that they are a brilliant gripping and great self cleaning mud terrain tyre with that classic tread pattern.
I came a close second in the final of a recent mud drags events using 33" BFG's against the NissCommercial MQ Shorty (Cliffhanger entrant) he had 35" Simex ET's. He was using low range, I probably would have too but was going well enough in high range.
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Apart from the airleaks, the BFG's have been great. Ive had em on my
GU for 82000kms now, I run em at about 45 -50 psi, they are now getting low for mud work. I have never had em squirm round cornering, but I do get wheel spin in the wet especially over the yellow pedestrian paint.
Ive had MTRs on the Suzi, were crap in the mud, went Simexs prob solved.
As a allrounder the BFGs are great, and quiet, especially when compared to the Coopers! Incidently, we had a rock rip the sidewall of a Cooper STT on a club trip a couple of weeks ago.
Not a big rock!
GU for 82000kms now, I run em at about 45 -50 psi, they are now getting low for mud work. I have never had em squirm round cornering, but I do get wheel spin in the wet especially over the yellow pedestrian paint.
Ive had MTRs on the Suzi, were crap in the mud, went Simexs prob solved.
As a allrounder the BFGs are great, and quiet, especially when compared to the Coopers! Incidently, we had a rock rip the sidewall of a Cooper STT on a club trip a couple of weeks ago.
Not a big rock!
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And the BFG is a copy as wellrvh96 wrote:just about every mud tyre on the market is a copy of them
5 points to who can name the company the designed that tread in the first place (before BFG ripped it off)
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I have never heard of BFG being regarded as a bad tyre?
I have the 35" equivalent on mine and yes also experienced dirt, rocks, tree bark and sticks getting stuck in the bead, usually after grinding them on the rocks and in tight situations at low psi it is bound to happen. They wear very well, I am suprised a how much tread I have left after an uncountable amount of long trips between Qld and Cooma, offroad adventures & I daily drove it for 2 years as well, I will buy them again.
My dad has had them for years on his 75, he daily drives it, does regular country trips some fire trail drives. He did manage to get a small stick puncture the sidewall on a brand new MT not sure why this happened, but he still prefers BFG.
I have the 35" equivalent on mine and yes also experienced dirt, rocks, tree bark and sticks getting stuck in the bead, usually after grinding them on the rocks and in tight situations at low psi it is bound to happen. They wear very well, I am suprised a how much tread I have left after an uncountable amount of long trips between Qld and Cooma, offroad adventures & I daily drove it for 2 years as well, I will buy them again.
My dad has had them for years on his 75, he daily drives it, does regular country trips some fire trail drives. He did manage to get a small stick puncture the sidewall on a brand new MT not sure why this happened, but he still prefers BFG.
i run 35 x 12.5's and they are good, although like others have said mud in the beads but thats why beadlocks where invented i guess or maybe has something to do with the fact they are radial & not bias
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