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defender 6" spring lift?

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defender 6" spring lift?

Post by snail bait »

what needs to be done ona defender with a 6" spring lift. Caster angle, rotate diffs etc.. any advice would be appreciated!
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Post by DK »

Why would u want to lift a feder that much???
You can run 36" tyres with 2"lift

If you had to do it you would have to do shock mounts,rotate the swivell housings,tailshafts,brakelines,rear trailing arms,A frame and theres probably more i cant think of right now..
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Post by snail bait »

ordered 4" springs from kings, fitted them 2 days ago sitting bout 6"from standard got w/shop facilities already cranked arms and braced cardinal joint on front shaft adj panhard rod mod a frame rear will mod shock towers when i work out what shocks to get?????
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Post by DK »

Finding shocks might be tough.....Look at 80 Series Cruiser shocks for the front with a shock tower spacer....As for the rear Pro Comp do a long Rover shock that wont require any pin to eye converter but u will need to space your bump stops...

I run 11" Pro Comps in the back with a 3" lift and retained springs and love them...great value for money.
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Post by jbell »

snail bait we need pics of this lift i got 4" lift and thats high on
cross slopes

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Post by Micka »

I had a 4 - 5" lift on mine and ran 37s. I needed a new tailshaft and fitted cranked arms. Brake lines were fine.

This is how mine looked...

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So another 1.5 - 2" on top of that and you could run 40 - 42" tyres :shock:

Just don't go wheeling in it with 40s on it...mine held up to 37" Creepies but I think 40s would be pushing it :D
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Post by snail bait »

trying to get some photos posted gotta get them off my phone, only running 33's at the mo would like to wheel with 36's afta doing t/case gears!
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Post by sclarke7171 »

Without Pix this thread is useless.
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Post by Micka »

sclarke7171 wrote:Without Pix this thread is useless.
I put one up :?
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Post by sclarke7171 »

Micka wrote:
sclarke7171 wrote:Without Pix this thread is useless.
I put one up :?
We know your rig is tough, but i want to see the Thread creators rig.

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Post by Micka »

sclarke7171 wrote:
Micka wrote:
sclarke7171 wrote:Without Pix this thread is useless.
I put one up :?
We know your rig is tough, but i want to see the Thread creators rig.

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I know that, Clarkie...just being stoopid. :finger:

Make with the farkin pics, Snail Bait...or that's what you'll end up as :bad-words: :D
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Post by LincolnBlack »

Here, in the meantime does this help at all? :lol: :lol:

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Post by Micka »

OMFG dude...that is sh!t hot :armsup:
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Post by sclarke7171 »

fully Shick mate
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Post by gali »

Micka wrote:I had a 4 - 5" lift on mine and ran 37s. I needed a new tailshaft and fitted cranked arms. Brake lines were fine.

This is how mine looked...

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So another 1.5 - 2" on top of that and you could run 40 - 42" tyres :shock:

Just don't go wheeling in it with 40s on it...mine held up to 37" Creepies but I think 40s would be pushing it :D
tell me Micka, are you running the original half shafts or stronger since the 36" tyres?
what about the front bells' are they also original?

what is needed for running 36's on the point of mechanical failures?

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Post by maxdog204 »

So to run 35's all u need is a 2' lift. Is that all that needs to be done. Im new to this rover stuff.
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Post by jsttry »

Yes, depending on rim offset you may need to adjust your steering bolts to stop it hitting the trailing arm, and cut a little of the rubber flares to stop hitting under full flex.
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Post by Micka »

gali wrote:
Micka wrote:I had a 4 - 5" lift on mine and ran 37s. I needed a new tailshaft and fitted cranked arms. Brake lines were fine.

This is how mine looked...

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So another 1.5 - 2" on top of that and you could run 40 - 42" tyres :shock:

Just don't go wheeling in it with 40s on it...mine held up to 37" Creepies but I think 40s would be pushing it :D
tell me Micka, are you running the original half shafts or stronger since the 36" tyres?
what about the front bells' are they also original?

what is needed for running 36's on the point of mechanical failures?

Gali.
All axels/cvs are standard. The only thing I ever broke was my tailshaft after dragging it over some sharp rocks and then going full noise up a steep climb out of a creek bed...

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I am sure that I was probably just lucky not to break the CVs, but I also was very carefull with wheel placement and wary of binding up tyres. The factory ETC would have also helped look after the axels/CVs.
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Post by sclarke7171 »

That tailshaft looks like my one... well the old one....
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But yours is far worse....
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Post by gali »

well my tailshaft is not the original anymore but a stronger one.
i thought that if you go 35's you must install some stronger half shafts & change the gear ratio to a lower one.

i'm running a TDI300, which is not so known as a fast & strong, are you runing a V8?

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Post by Micka »

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Post by jsttry »

4.6L v8 here. Made the 4spd box cruise better on the highway by moving to 35's. Doesn't rev as hard. Idle speed is still fine.
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Post by sclarke7171 »

Stocker 300TDI..........

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Post by outlaw »

whats the point of those pics Steve? that ain't no 6" lift... or is someone showing off there newly finished winch bar :finger:
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Post by Micka »

outlaw wrote:whats the point of those pics Steve? that ain't no 6" lift... or is someone showing off there newly finished winch bar :finger:
Which he made upside-down :roll:

The Scorpion ones have the small tube gussets underneath, Clarky :finger:
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Post by Micka »

And where the fark has Snailbait gone?

Make wiv da farkin pics of your 6000" lifted Fender :bad-words: :bad-words:


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Post by sclarke7171 »

Micka wrote:
outlaw wrote:whats the point of those pics Steve? that ain't no 6" lift... or is someone showing off there newly finished winch bar :finger:
Which he made upside-down :roll:

The Scorpion ones have the small tube gussets underneath, Clarky :finger:
If i had wanted to copy the Scariron racing ones i would have....
Instead i made my own...

What is the pint of the smaller bar being at the bottom? when it gets hit it bends... at least mine will not suffer the small bar bending 1st....

Best i ask Black board Mr Squigle....
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Post by tony cordell »

Micka wrote:I had a 4 - 5" lift on mine and ran 37s. I needed a new tailshaft and fitted cranked arms. Brake lines were fine.

This is how mine looked...

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So another 1.5 - 2" on top of that and you could run 40 - 42" tyres :shock:

Just don't go wheeling in it with 40s on it...mine held up to 37" Creepies but I think 40s would be pushing it :D
Really?
much more than 37's will hit the bulkhead outrigger(support) so
40-42s required frame work.
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Post by desertrover »

jsttry wrote:Yes, depending on rim offset you may need to adjust your steering bolts to stop it hitting the trailing arm, and cut a little of the rubber flares to stop hitting under full flex.
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Post by Slunnie »

or even 8 wheeler. :D
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