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lift question

Tech talk for GMH/Isuzu and Great Wall owners

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lift question

Post by Bacdef »

Hi guys just a quick question about lifting my frontera, Ive been looking around and have found heaps of options for lifts my only problem is the front end, most people I talk to seem to think that 50mm of lift is asking for trouble as the stearing gets stuffed up and the torsion bars get pot under too much pressure.

Is this true and if so what have you guys done about it, is it worth getting heavy duty torsion bars or is it all just scare tactics.

At the moment I am headed towards either a TJM or Rancho lift, the Rancho guys tell me they have heavy duty torsion bars for my Frontera but that I should avoid fitting a bullbar or auxilliary tank so Im torn.

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I want a lift as soon as I can get one but I dont want to make an expensive mistake.

Thanks in advance Bacdef.
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Post by Westoztroopa »

Bacdef,

45 - 50 mm is as about as far as you would want to safely crank it due to as you mentioned the issues with camber/allignment and also the extra stress put on the cv's and other components due to the greater angles. You can go higher ofcourse but the amount that you crank it is directly proportional to increased risk of something going wrong.

My Jack is cranked 45 - 50 mm at the front on the original factory t-bars and with a bullbar (alloy) fitted also and no probs (touch wood :roll: ). This sort of lift is so common these days and Im sure most of the guys in this forum have done the lift with no issues. I cant recall any major issues with the t-bars cranked this high on Isuzu vehicles...

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Post by DAZZ »

50mm is a good amount of lift for the F'terra. There is still a small amount of droop in the front and drive shaft angles are still OK. Std torsion bars are fairly robust. I've had an alloy bar on mine for nearly 4 yrs with no probs. Nuthing has broken in the front end yet and I drive mine like a maniac!!!!
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Post by TFS55 »

why dont you check this out, 5" lift kit for the isuzu. it a drop suspension lift kit made in Thailand. Made by Sun Suspension.

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Post by tritonasuras »

got a web address for that company ???
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Post by Westoztroopa »

Found it! :cool:

Anyone know how to read Thai? :D :roll:

http://www.auto.co.th/Sreport/isuzu/Isuzu_Kd.htm

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Post by KIWI »

Have you tried Systranbox?
I use this all the time to translate (mainly Japanese sights), and can do a HUGE number of languages.

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Post by Westoztroopa »

What is it and where do you get it?
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Post by KIWI »

It is a programme set up for translation which you can purchase, or go to their site and use it FOC. It has a few of the more common languages, but doesnt allow access to all by the look of it (no Thai :cry: ).
Try the following, you have to translate page by page which can be slow, but I've managed to get into some good Isuzu sights in Japan using this.
http://www.systranbox.com/

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Post by tritonasuras »

try alta vista...

http://world.altavista.com/tr

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Post by DGPirie »

I have a 40mm lift on the front of my Frontera and a 50mm at the rear. No problems so far after 91,000km. Go the Rancho shocks because of the adjustability. I have Rancho 9115 on the rear and OME on the front. The OME supplied for the rear the first time were for a Pajero and were too stiff and didn't have any extra travel to compensate for the lift. Had no problems up the Cape with either. Adjustable rears allowed me to soften the ride (and impact on the car) over the corrugations and then stiffen them for the OTL. AS the load reduced I softened them also.

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Post by CJ Burns Esq »

Scott went for 3" and had some trouble with the CV's but if you drop the front diff an inch no troubles. 1 inch spacers between the diff and the mount and it's fine. Paul harris also had 4" at the rear of his but you need to change the track rod.
As for HD torsion bars it's all bull, as the bars still carry the same weight when you wind them up, all you are doing is turnung them round and repositioning them.
Get a set of springs put in at the rear and fit the shocks your self and wind it up. the torsion bars are eight turns to an inch of lift. Steve Rigney and I did his FtrUCK in a couple hours and it wasn't very hard. I've done mine, Steve's and removed the lift and installed the original in Brad lawson's.
It's a no brainer.
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