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Lost 5th gear with 35" tyres on
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Lost 5th gear with 35" tyres on
Hey guys, my name is Lee and I am new to the forum. I have a 92 V6 4runner with 35" claws on it. The problem is that I have lost 5th gear on the hiway. What diff gears should I put in to bring back 5th gear. It's a daily driver and I was thinking 4.88. Any help would be great.
Liftin' wheels with IFS is fun till you flip the bastard.
My guess would be your running 4.1's or 4.3's.
Check out www.toyotatasurf.asn.au and browse the forum . You will get all the info you need to work out the right ratio you need to run.
Check out www.toyotatasurf.asn.au and browse the forum . You will get all the info you need to work out the right ratio you need to run.
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Great tech for a 4runner then. All the vehicles you have refered to have different ratio and motor characteristics, and are not really much help.adam penfold wrote:im just saying so i would try 4.625's.curently just put 4.625's on our 3ltr (rb30) patrol b'caz we couldnt use 5th gear
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X2 on what Layto said......
4.88's would be the go. I wouldn't waste my dollars having anything taller than that. You can get 5.24's but i think they may be overkill for 35's unless it's just for comps.
4.88's would be the go. I wouldn't waste my dollars having anything taller than that. You can get 5.24's but i think they may be overkill for 35's unless it's just for comps.
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Get 4.88's, that should bring the gearing and speedo back to normal.
Keep an eye on the forsale section here and over at www.toyotasurf.asn.au as they periodically come up forsale.
Get 4.88's, that should bring the gearing and speedo back to normal.
Keep an eye on the forsale section here and over at www.toyotasurf.asn.au as they periodically come up forsale.
Cheers,
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
Dan.
[i]1996 HDJ80R[/i]
35" tyre is 12% larger (in diameter) than your original 31" tyres. 1.12 x 4.33 (orig diff ratio) = 4.84 The closest to this is 4.88:1......that's your answer!
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hello 4x4 wannabe i have a set of 2 x 4.88 and 2 x 5.29 to suit hilux, i think surf inderpended is still same center as rear some one here could clarafie that, either set $450 the pair there complete centers with single spinner etc..
also i wouldn't disregaurd the 5.29 to quickly, as a surf may not have the turque to push the 35's and 5.29's may help here, the revs may be up but your foot would just be feathering the throttle, wear as smaller gears lower revs but more peddle to maintain the speed ie more fuel as you have found buy loosing 5th if you where to use 5th now your foot would be flat to the floor and the car going no where, with the 5.29 you'll be reving at 2300-2400 at 100ks. 4.88 = 2100-2200 at 100ks , 4.3 = 1900- 2000 at 100ks assuming 5th gear is .75-1 overdrive and hi range is 1-1 you need to find where your torque starts and choose a ratio that lines up to that rpm at a 100ks allowing wind restistance etc.. i would think the 5.29 are the go with 35's best of both worlds
also still waiting to find out about that soft top for your dads vitara, if it'll suit etc i have posted it on the nbs suzuki club site no replies as yet but i will let you know as i do want to sell it
also i wouldn't disregaurd the 5.29 to quickly, as a surf may not have the turque to push the 35's and 5.29's may help here, the revs may be up but your foot would just be feathering the throttle, wear as smaller gears lower revs but more peddle to maintain the speed ie more fuel as you have found buy loosing 5th if you where to use 5th now your foot would be flat to the floor and the car going no where, with the 5.29 you'll be reving at 2300-2400 at 100ks. 4.88 = 2100-2200 at 100ks , 4.3 = 1900- 2000 at 100ks assuming 5th gear is .75-1 overdrive and hi range is 1-1 you need to find where your torque starts and choose a ratio that lines up to that rpm at a 100ks allowing wind restistance etc.. i would think the 5.29 are the go with 35's best of both worlds
also still waiting to find out about that soft top for your dads vitara, if it'll suit etc i have posted it on the nbs suzuki club site no replies as yet but i will let you know as i do want to sell it
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Thanx rama, I can't do anything right now about the diff centers but if you still have them when i can do something then i will probably take them off you. I will wait to hear from you about the soft top. Thanx mate you have been a huge help.
Liftin' wheels with IFS is fun till you flip the bastard.
Formula for determining gear ratios
1) Effective Gear Ratio:
The effective gear ratio illustrates the changes that occur when larger tires are installed. For example, by replacing 29 inch tires with 33 inch tires, your 3.54:1 axle ratio will perform like a 3.11:1.
Divide the old tire diameter by the new tire diameter, then multiply by the original ratio. This will equal the effective ratio of the new combination.
2) Equivalent Ratio:
This formula is used to find the axle ratio needed to bring the overall tire/axle ratio gearing back to an approximation of stock after you have installed larger tires.
divide new tire diameter by the old tire diameter then multiply by the old ratio. This will equal the new gear ratio.
Hope this helps
Hoppy
1) Effective Gear Ratio:
The effective gear ratio illustrates the changes that occur when larger tires are installed. For example, by replacing 29 inch tires with 33 inch tires, your 3.54:1 axle ratio will perform like a 3.11:1.
Divide the old tire diameter by the new tire diameter, then multiply by the original ratio. This will equal the effective ratio of the new combination.
2) Equivalent Ratio:
This formula is used to find the axle ratio needed to bring the overall tire/axle ratio gearing back to an approximation of stock after you have installed larger tires.
divide new tire diameter by the old tire diameter then multiply by the old ratio. This will equal the new gear ratio.
Hope this helps
Hoppy
use this link and keep it, very handy for working out all sort of things it a ratio, revs,crawl,speed etc... calculatar
do look
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/gearing.htm
do look
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/gearing.htm
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lwb sierra ca18det, 37" "CANT HOLD ON"
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https://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/shop/
lwb sierra ca18det, 37" "CANT HOLD ON"
lwb sierra g16a, daily driver
https://www.suspensionstuff.com.au/shop/
to throw anothe spanner in the works...
I have a RN105R lux (22R) running 35's and comes std with 4.88's. Seems OK on road but offroad in low range with 6psi in beadlocked 35's she really boggs down and find it tough going to turn them for example once they stop turning on a steep hill or deep bog hole. Just though it somehting to consider.
If i was going to persist with the lux it'd be 1uz and 5.29's for sure - SEE FOR SALE SECTION
I have a RN105R lux (22R) running 35's and comes std with 4.88's. Seems OK on road but offroad in low range with 6psi in beadlocked 35's she really boggs down and find it tough going to turn them for example once they stop turning on a steep hill or deep bog hole. Just though it somehting to consider.
If i was going to persist with the lux it'd be 1uz and 5.29's for sure - SEE FOR SALE SECTION
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I'd prefer to sell them as a pair $450 but I'll sell 1 for $280 most wreakers are better part of $500 each ive no answer for that soft top either rude bastards i'll try auszookers.com they might be more help full
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