I am looking to buy some new tyres for my Rangie. I've decided to go for 35"/36" inch tyres. As i live in Victoria, the conditions i drive in are generally very muddy with some tree roots and rocks.
I've noticed a lot of people who originally went for the Centrepedes are now moving away from them and back to TSL's.
Given the conditions i drive in, what tyre do people recommend? I will be keeping my 33" M/T for road use.
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Opinions on Simex vs. Swampers vs. Claws
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Tuff RR
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Michael.
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1986 RR.
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1986 RR.
Custom suspension links etc.
HSV 215 engine.
4.3 diffs.
TuffRR wrote:MickBj42 - Given the size tyres most people are running on this forum, you probably better not venture out of the driveway if ya wanna be safe.
I am pulling the pi$$ out of Roktruk. Check this thread.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... .php?t=821
I am changing to 36" swampers or maybe Q78's but I really want to go wider....
My simex JT2's have been very very good.
I would rate them better than the extreme trekkers - I know some will disagree, but I am sure I saw Trent Leen running them instead of extreme's a while ago at some comps. Can anyone clarify that?
Anyway - they have worn very well. I have probably 15,000km on them and quite a lot of trips offroad, they have a few nicks ands cuts on some of the tread blocks but are still around 80% tread.
Helps having a jeep as it is a fairly light rig.
If I was staying at the 34-35" size I think I would pick up another set before looking at the extremes.
Would like to try some 35x13 claws as well - and would like to try some 35" MTR's, too worried about how the MTR's will go in the slop.
If you want to have a look at them let me know. I am in South yarra/prahran.
cheers
z
My simex JT2's have been very very good.
I would rate them better than the extreme trekkers - I know some will disagree, but I am sure I saw Trent Leen running them instead of extreme's a while ago at some comps. Can anyone clarify that?
Anyway - they have worn very well. I have probably 15,000km on them and quite a lot of trips offroad, they have a few nicks ands cuts on some of the tread blocks but are still around 80% tread.
Helps having a jeep as it is a fairly light rig.
If I was staying at the 34-35" size I think I would pick up another set before looking at the extremes.
Would like to try some 35x13 claws as well - and would like to try some 35" MTR's, too worried about how the MTR's will go in the slop.
If you want to have a look at them let me know. I am in South yarra/prahran.
cheers
z
For Vic conditions where mud is the norm I would go the skinnys (i'm running 34 x 9.5 Swampers on the Zuk) They tend to dig a bit better and give a bit more control on the steep muddy climbs whereas the wider tyres tend to float on the surface almost aquaplaning sort of 
I find they are easier on components easier to turn and easier to stop
I find they are easier on components easier to turn and easier to stopRansom note = demand + collage
The Centerpide is also directional, which makes it excellent in mud, but many people don't like it on other surfaces. The Jungle Trekker 2 is a more all round tyre, and is non-directional, so you don't have the hassle with the spare.
I have been running my 34x10.5R16 JT2's for the last 12 months and I am very happy with them. They are a little thin, but I fixed this by reversing the rims, giving me over 2 inches more at each side. They work well on most surfaces, although you have to let them down to around 12 before they start to work. Ride pretty good on the road, although they are very loud, and the flat spots in the morning can be a pain. You just need to remember that you have them on, as they don't corner anywhere near as well as a BFG.
I have been running my 34x10.5R16 JT2's for the last 12 months and I am very happy with them. They are a little thin, but I fixed this by reversing the rims, giving me over 2 inches more at each side. They work well on most surfaces, although you have to let them down to around 12 before they start to work. Ride pretty good on the road, although they are very loud, and the flat spots in the morning can be a pain. You just need to remember that you have them on, as they don't corner anywhere near as well as a BFG.
I run Q78 Swampers on my GU patrol, and my Brother, 35" Centipedes.
Comparing the 2, i have come up with the following Personal Opinions:
Both are noisey.
Centipede seems to handle better onthe road, personally, i think it is due to the fact the centre section of hte tread is tighter, and more interlinked in the Cent, which gives it more road going stability, also the sidewalls are a lot Stiffer on the centipede.
in the mud and slop, the Swamper seems to bite a little better, and bags up at Low Pressures a little better, but, they are both a fairly close match.
I beleive the Swampers is better on the rocky stuff.
Lastly:
Trent Uses both Centipedes (supplied due to being Sponsored by Simex) and Jungle Trekker II. He is often seen around on the JTII's as from a discussion i had with a mate who has spoken to him a fair bit, he prefers them around Vic.
Comparing the 2, i have come up with the following Personal Opinions:
Both are noisey.
Centipede seems to handle better onthe road, personally, i think it is due to the fact the centre section of hte tread is tighter, and more interlinked in the Cent, which gives it more road going stability, also the sidewalls are a lot Stiffer on the centipede.
in the mud and slop, the Swamper seems to bite a little better, and bags up at Low Pressures a little better, but, they are both a fairly close match.
I beleive the Swampers is better on the rocky stuff.
Lastly:
Trent Uses both Centipedes (supplied due to being Sponsored by Simex) and Jungle Trekker II. He is often seen around on the JTII's as from a discussion i had with a mate who has spoken to him a fair bit, he prefers them around Vic.
srowlandson wrote:Lastly:
Trent Uses both Centipedes (supplied due to being Sponsored by Simex) and Jungle Trekker II. He is often seen around on the JTII's as from a discussion i had with a mate who has spoken to him a fair bit, he prefers them around Vic.
Correct, although according to Wayne Smith, since the 11.5 JT2 came out the Centerpides haven't been used much.
I run a set of 35 " baja claws and run mostly in tight steep muddy trails with occasional rock. The tires are radials and really bulge well aired down and comform to rocks they work really well in the mud i am surprised at how well they stay on my 8" rims in really soupy mud at 12psi. The also are really quiet on the road. In my opion a much higher quality tire than the swampers, also they were about $400.00 cheaper than the same size swamper here in Oregon.[US] thats my 2cents.....I would love to try those centepedes though tyey arent avalable here
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Hi
I run beadlocked 35* 10.5 Centipedes (often at single digit pressures) on my GQ Shorty in the Xtreme Winch Challenges and am very impressed with their traction on all but wet rock. (What does work here anyway!!? ) We do pump up the front if expecting a faster stage.
A mate who runs a Hilux and has run Claws for quite some time bought Centipedes and is now very dissapointed.
Our conclusion is that the Claw is much softer than the 'pedes sidewall and probably suits his lighter vehicle better. He does not have beadlocks and is not game to lower the pressures below 12psi.
I am keen to trial the Q78's the Vics rave about.
Trent was running 34/11 JT2's for the 2nd and (I think) 3rd round of the Winch Challenges. Wayne said they used them for the dryer conditions in QLD. (I think that it had may have had something to do with nil Centipedes in stock and LOTS of JT2s in stock at the time...)
Peter
I run beadlocked 35* 10.5 Centipedes (often at single digit pressures) on my GQ Shorty in the Xtreme Winch Challenges and am very impressed with their traction on all but wet rock. (What does work here anyway!!?
) We do pump up the front if expecting a faster stage.
A mate who runs a Hilux and has run Claws for quite some time bought Centipedes and is now very dissapointed.
Our conclusion is that the Claw is much softer than the 'pedes sidewall and probably suits his lighter vehicle better. He does not have beadlocks and is not game to lower the pressures below 12psi.
I am keen to trial the Q78's the Vics rave about.
Trent was running 34/11 JT2's for the 2nd and (I think) 3rd round of the Winch Challenges. Wayne said they used them for the dryer conditions in QLD. (I think that it had may have had something to do with nil Centipedes in stock and LOTS of JT2s in stock at the time...)
Peter
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Wayne was saying the other night that they are waiting for the 37 Centerpide, which is due early next year. 8)
The claws work well, but need to be run at very low pressure as they don't bag out well, especially under light rigs. I have seen the 35 Bias Claw under a TJ Jeep at 5 psi and they looked like they were at 30psi. I am not particularly impressed with the 33 or 35, but the 37 works very well, as the tread blocks are larger, with more space in between.
The claws work well, but need to be run at very low pressure as they don't bag out well, especially under light rigs. I have seen the 35 Bias Claw under a TJ Jeep at 5 psi and they looked like they were at 30psi. I am not particularly impressed with the 33 or 35, but the 37 works very well, as the tread blocks are larger, with more space in between.
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