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Rear wheel "Clicking" sound?

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Rear wheel "Clicking" sound?

Post by Vineboy »

At slow speeds my MU has taken started to make a clicking noise out of the drivers side rear wheel. Only sometimes that is, so it never really worried me. Doesn't make any difference if I put the brakes on either. It can make a diff' if I steer the car from one side to the other (transfer weight perhaps?). Anyway so I get home and take the wheel off and find the disc assembly moves around the studs and the axle moves in and out about 2-3mm or so.

I know this is not good but how can I fix it? Is it normal? The other side wheel is as tight as. I'm taking up to get it looked at tomorrow but I don't want to have the wool pulled over my eyes as far as fixes. Any help much appreciated. :)
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Post by turkey »

I would say wheel bearing and seal is stuffed. Is it leaking any oil?
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Post by RockyF75 »

turkey wrote:I would say wheel bearing and seal is stuffed. Is it leaking any oil?
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Post by Vineboy »

turkey wrote:I would say wheel bearing and seal is stuffed. Is it leaking any oil?
Not yet.
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Post by lay80n »

How tight were your wheel nuts. Loose wheel nuts can allow the wheel to move on the studs making a clicking noise. But as the others have said check your wheel bearings. Make sure that the holes on the disk have not ovaled out too.

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Post by chops »

stuffed wheel bearings lead to this if you leave it too long:

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Post by Vineboy »

Wheel nuts are tight and no oil is leaking. It's not a usual bearing rumble or squeal just an intermittant clicking. Like a stick caught and hitting the mag. What does worry me is that when I took the wheel off, the disc itself was moving around. It goes into Holden tomorrow (Thurs) to get a once over. If it is a bearing I'll get the other one done as well. :)
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Post by Vineboy »

Took it into Holden today. They can't find a replacement for a NSK4276 bearing so they said they have to go original and get one out of Melbourne for aroung $1500-$2000 plus labour :shock:

Does anyone know a replacement for the rear of a 96 MU because I really need to know or I may have to try to get a second hand Jack or Robeo diff.
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Post by revin »

Couldn`t you just get the bearing part number and go see the likes of Skefco,CBC or similiar and get a non geniue part ????
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Post by KiwiBacon »

revin wrote:Couldn`t you just get the bearing part number and go see the likes of Skefco,CBC or similiar and get a non geniue part ????
Often you'll need bearing sizes. Automotive parts manuals usually only list their part number, to try and keep the bearing code secret and score some extra money.
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Post by Vineboy »

KiwiBacon wrote:
revin wrote:Couldn`t you just get the bearing part number and go see the likes of Skefco,CBC or similiar and get a non geniue part ????
Often you'll need bearing sizes. Automotive parts manuals usually only list their part number, to try and keep the bearing code secret and score some extra money.
It's kind of urgent too because the MU is on a hoist at Holden. If I can't find a solution by tomorrow (Friday 11th) morning the $$$$bearings get ordered. I am without a car in the meantime, I live on a property, and the MU is 50mins away. Also I am going on holidays this Sunday :cry:
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Post by KiwiBacon »

Vineboy wrote:
KiwiBacon wrote:
revin wrote:Couldn`t you just get the bearing part number and go see the likes of Skefco,CBC or similiar and get a non geniue part ????
Often you'll need bearing sizes. Automotive parts manuals usually only list their part number, to try and keep the bearing code secret and score some extra money.
It's kind of urgent too because the MU is on a hoist at Holden. If I can't find a solution by tomorrow (Friday 11th) morning the $$$$bearings get ordered. I am without a car in the meantime, I live on a property, and the MU is 50mins away. Also I am going on holidays this Sunday :cry:
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Post by Patroler »

I'd be getting the stuffed bearing and measuring it up, the measurements along with the part number NSK4276 should almost all the info you need to ring some big bearing joints and ask for some spares, couldn't be that hard?

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Post by shakes »

They can't find a replacement for a NSK4276 bearing so they said they have to go original and get one out of Melbourne for aroung $1500-$2000 plus labour
ANY bearing place will be able to source these for you at quite alot cheaper than that, they'll even say "ooohhh its gunna be expensive" you'll reply with a yea..? and they quote $50

but..... will you need to pay for the "priveledge" of having your car going by sunday?

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Post by RUFF »

This site says that bearing traders should stock it- http://www.clubisuzu.com/Workshop_Parts.html
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Post by Vineboy »

RUFF wrote:This site says that bearing traders should stock it- http://www.clubisuzu.com/Workshop_Parts.html
Thanks RUFF, but I took that bearing number up with me and it's been dropped.
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Post by NickR »

have you checked there are no screws stuck in the tyre?
I had this happen on a van once, it ticked until the head wore off the screw, the tyre wasn't going down which was a surprise
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Post by RockyF75 »

Vineboy wrote:Took it into Holden today. They can't find a replacement for a NSK4276 bearing so they said they have to go original and get one out of Melbourne for aroung $1500-$2000 plus labour :shock:

Does anyone know a replacement for the rear of a 96 MU because I really need to know or I may have to try to get a second hand Jack or Robeo diff.
Cheers,
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What wound up happening?

No way in HELL i would be paying 2k for a wheel bearing :bad-words:

Tell em to put the old one back in or keep it on their hoist till they can find you a non-genuine replacement.

Thats why I hate dealership workshops. If it were a private one they'd be out sourcing the part for you.
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Post by Vineboy »

RockyF70 wrote:
Vineboy wrote:Took it into Holden today. They can't find a replacement for a NSK4276 bearing so they said they have to go original and get one out of Melbourne for aroung $1500-$2000 plus labour :shock:

Does anyone know a replacement for the rear of a 96 MU because I really need to know or I may have to try to get a second hand Jack or Robeo diff.
Cheers,
Andrew
What wound up happening?

No way in HELL i would be paying 2k for a wheel bearing :bad-words:

Tell em to put the old one back in or keep it on their hoist till they can find you a non-genuine replacement.

Thats why I hate dealership workshops. If it were a private one they'd be out sourcing the part for you.
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Had the axle out and said it was a sealed bearing so once they get it off then I'm comitted either way. They were supposed to ring back yesterday late to let me know how they went but never did :x
Just ran gthen and of course the service dept doesn't work weekends :x :x May have to take the 47 up to the Gulf for the two week holiday I had planned starting Sunday.
Got some tips off the clubisuzu site for bearing numbers which I was going to run past the service manager. If he was at work that is :twisted:
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Post by RUFF »

Get them to put it back together and take it to a local workshop where the owner will happily help you out in either finding a non genuine replacement, A second hand replacement or a genuine replacement at a more realistic price. Getting a holden dealer to do this job was never going to be cheap as he is allways going to charge you full mark up on any parts used plus an over inflated labour charge. Where a local shop will hammer Holden spare parts for their absolute best price on the parts and then pass the savings on to you as long as they get the Labour out of it. Then your a happy customer and they get the work next time you need something done.

They dont call them stealer ships for nothing. I doubt they have even attempted to find you a non genuine bearing as they make less money on the job then.

For $1500-$2000 you will find a bearing that can be made to work cheaper. I imagine for that price it is a complete axle assembly. Which is not an uncommon way for factory replacement parts to be supplied.

Is this bearing unique to the MU? Will the Rodeo or Jackaroo complete rear housing bolt into the MU?

You need to call a caryard that commonly imports the MU. They should be able to put you intouch with a mechanic that works on these a lot. He will be able to tell you where to get a bearing from.
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Post by RUFF »

I just spoke to bearing traders here in Brisbane. Do you have the bearing? Or do holden still have the bearing? Where did you get the NSK4276 part number? Off the bearing or is this what holden gave you? Bearing traders list a bearing kit under the number 4276 but they can not identify what it fits. If you have the bearing there must be more numbers on this bearing than just NSK 4276. If you can give me some more numbers i may be able to find you a bearing.
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Post by Vineboy »

RUFF wrote:I just spoke to bearing traders here in Brisbane. Do you have the bearing? Or do holden still have the bearing? Where did you get the NSK4276 part number? Off the bearing or is this what holden gave you? Bearing traders list a bearing kit under the number 4276 but they can not identify what it fits. If you have the bearing there must be more numbers on this bearing than just NSK 4276. If you can give me some more numbers i may be able to find you a bearing.
Thanks RUFF,
I've found out (thanks Google) that this bearing is for the front not rear. I got another NSK408W03 (thanks Clubisuzu) which should do it. The bearing has been pressed off the axle today (SAT PM) and will be matched Mon am. Hopefully. I know what you mean about trying to match bearings. I'll let you know how I go Monday.
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