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Dual batteries in a Feroza

Tech Talk for Ford, Mazda, Daihatsu & Makes that currently dont have a home.

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Post by murcod »

here are some pics
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Post by murcod »

more.

No extra holes were drilled to fit the holder. It bolts onto existing chassis bolts, I simply fitted longer high tensile bolts through the chassis points to hold it in. The controller is the Electronics Australia kit (commonly known as the Dick Smith or Jaycar kit) and costs $50 for the kit plus some more for the wiring and fuseholders etc. Aux won't charge until the main is over 13.5V and if the aux is below 10.xV then the charge current is limited to prolong battery life.
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Any chance of uploading the pics to photobucket and reposting them in this thread?
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Post by murcod »

Due to popular demand......

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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Thanks mate, I'll have to make a couple of mods to mine and get it fitted again soon.

I took it out coz I couldn't fit a big enough battery in there... not enough height.
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Post by murcod »

AJFeroza wrote: I took it out coz I couldn't fit a big enough battery in there... not enough height.
Yes the height's the killer if you've got A/C fitted- the pipes get in the way and you can't make the tray sit any lower. :cry:

I've had a few PM's and Emails of late- those photos will stay up for as long as I'm with this ISP (I've no plans on changing.)
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Let me know if you want me to put them up on my photobucket account.

Yeah, height is the real killer. I've got a couple of ideas, but need to get the time in daylight to have a bit of a play with things.
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Post by rocknferoza »

murcod wrote:
AJFeroza wrote: I took it out coz I couldn't fit a big enough battery in there... not enough height.
Yes the height's the killer if you've got A/C fitted- the pipes get in the way and you can't make the tray sit any lower. :cry:

I've had a few PM's and Emails of late- those photos will stay up for as long as I'm with this ISP (I've no plans on changing.)
;) ;)

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Is the battery maintanince free :?:
I went to battery world and they had 2 different batteries that are the same size but the guy I spoke to suggested not to get a maintanince free one due to all the heat coming off the extractors.

BTW what is the stuff you are using around the outside of the battery :?:

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Post by murcod »

Yes, it's a maintenance free battery with one of those "magic eye" indicators that tell you when the charge or acid levels are low. I've had it in there for a couple of years (recently removed for the gearbox rebuild and not refitted) without any problems.

These days maitenance free batteries are supposed to have a waterproof membrane that lets them breath but stops any of the electrolyte escaping. If I'm buying a battery I go for the highest capacity with the longest warranty- you can get three year warrantees these days on cheap batteries. If it dies within three years you get a new one. ;)

I've got the battery sitting on some 6mm thick rubber and the stuff around it is heat reflective with about 10mm of foam rubber. I think it's used on building aircons - got it off the father inlaw and he does commercial aircon installs?
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Post by MightyMouse »

Nice job - looks strong enough to survive some real use. And a good idea
to protect it from the exhaust heat - mine has melted the outer sheathing off the loom that runs behind the exhaust.

A layer of fibreglass tape now protects it - so don't underestimate the heat load.

And..... how on earth do you keep the engine bay that clean ? The first
bog hole I drive through coats everything under the bonnet with an even
brown/grey color........
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Post by murcod »

MightyMouse wrote: And..... how on earth do you keep the engine bay that clean ? The first
bog hole I drive through coats everything under the bonnet with an even
brown/grey color........
That's an old pic and I'd obviously recently cleaned it. Having an electric thermo fan helps too- I disable it and don't get mud sprayed throughout the engine bay. ;)

Sadly mine hasn't been off road for a long time. :cry:
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Post by ferozamaniac »

Do you also have an electric fan instead of the mechanic one? Does anyone have any informations on how to fit and plug electric fan with a switch (on,off). Whats the benefit of not having a mechanic fan?
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ferozamaniac wrote:Do you also have an electric fan instead of the mechanic one? Does anyone have any informations on how to fit and plug electric fan with a switch (on,off). Whats the benefit of not having a mechanic fan?
Benefit is you can turn it off when water crossing and it takes no power from your engine to turn it.

Downfalls are lesser cooling and more load on electrical system.

You can buy a fan and a water temperature switch, so it comes on automatically, or have it wired into the dash also.
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Post by ferozamaniac »

I see when my mechanic fan dies i will place an electric one. Thanks :)
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Post by MightyMouse »

If you go to an electric fan, be carefully when you install it.

I initially used an electric thermostat and had it set too low at first. the fan overcooled the radiator and with the engine thermostat in the water
inlet ( stupid idea ) it wouldn't open.

The cylinderhead was over hot with the bottom radiator hose being stone cold.

IMO - start with the thermostat at the "hot" end of its range and turn it down to the right point.

Shifting the engine water thermostat into the top hose works well - but requires access to a machine shop - and I don't really like the aftermarket
thermostats - the small line from the bulb on the end to the thermostat
body easily breaks with vibration. Mine now hooks into the EFI system -
once again works well but isn't simple to do unless you have some knowledge.
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Post by ferozamaniac »

Thans i will keep all the informantion in mind to be ready when i will install it.
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Post by murcod »

Some advice from my experience with fitting an electric thermo fan-

* make sure you've got a genuine Daihatsu thermostat (they're not that dear to buy and are far superior to aftermarket brands.)
* make up a full shroud so the fan covers the whole of the radiator
* use decent sized cabling as even a small voltage drop will make a noticeable difference to the fan speed
* consider upgrading the alternator so it can cope when idling with a higher current draw.
* search the FAQ thread!! :lol:
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