fitting a Pertronix to a GQ

Post by **PGS 4WD** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:08 pm

The 425 is prone to this over time as the air valve in it is very heavy and wears the area it runs in, usually you can pull it apart and clean it up with some scotch brite, remove all scuffs etc, you can also undo the air valve from the diaphram and rotate it 180 degrees which helps.

Your converter will generally have a primary test port on the lower half, a pressure gauge in here should read about 1 1/2 to 2 psi depending on the make and springs fitted. You can get heavier springs, up to 3 psi for most converters if you have a decent local gas supplier. It will need re-tuning.

Is you rotor the origional GQ? They have a large rotor air gap, pirana make a modified one, I have in the past layed a weld across the tip being careful not to melt the plastic, and then file it to shape.

Fuel miser make a carby kit with an accelerator pump, can get it through Bursons. Check the check ball isnt stuck under the accelerator pump as this does happen and acts just the same.

Hope this helps

Joel

Post by **Mowie** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:30 pm

PGS 4WD wrote:Is you rotor the origional GQ? They have a large rotor air gap, pirana make a modified one, I have in the past layed a weld across the tip being careful not to melt the plastic, and then file it to shape.

There is definetly a issue with the standard rotor gap. After having problems with my TB42 at idle and getting advice on this site I took a screwdriver to the rotor and bent it up by 3mm. Did the trick as I was told it would.

Post by **offroader-rama** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:12 pm

does any one have a part number / supplier to order from, for the longer rotor, or a place where i can buy one in brisbane south side. where i get my parts they cant find one and a price would be good to

Post by **rOd** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:26 pm

offroader-rama wrote:does any one have a part number / supplier to order from, for the longer rotor, or a place where i can buy one in brisbane south side. where i get my parts they cant find one and a price would be good to

Performance Ignition Services
(03) 9872 3644
47/ 41-49 Norcal rd. Nunawading 3131

Post by **patrol42** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:01 pm

rOd wrote:
offroader-rama wrote:does any one have a part number / supplier to order from, for the longer rotor, or a place where i can buy one in brisbane south side. where i get my parts they cant find one and a price would be good to
Performance Ignition Services
(03) 9872 3644
47/ 41-49 Norcal rd. Nunawading 3131

I think a exchange rotor is about 35, but you can buy one for 80.00 ish and them send them your old one for a refund of the difference

Post by **PGS 4WD** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:58 pm

Pirana do one, should be able to get through any stockist.
Joel

Post by **offroader-rama** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:08 am

piranha do 1 for $150 (for a rotor button???) to brisbane same through there dealers here I'll try somewhere else.

Post by **patrol42** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:49 am

offroader-rama wrote:piranha do 1 for $150 (for a rotor button???) to brisbane same through there dealers here I'll try somewhere else.

get one from perfromance Ignition, its worth it..There is a huge difference between the stock rotor button and theirs..makes you wonder how the stock ones work in the first place

Post by **offroader-rama** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:52 am

orded 2 from proformance ignition @ $35 each exchange see how we go, thanks

Post by **Mowie** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:07 am

Well, my lobe sensing ignitor arrived in the post from the US this arvo.

Started putting it in around 5pm and learnt a lot about the wiring in a dizzy and to/from the coil along the way.

Besides breaks to figure out what the fuck I was doing and dinner and drinks breaks it would of taken half an hour of a competent persons time.

All up it is piss easy requiring no machining to the shaft.

Took some photos along the way, I'll post em up soon.

Post by **rOd** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 8:22 am

Mowie wrote:Well, my lobe sensing ignitor arrived in the post from the US this arvo.

Started putting it in around 5pm and learnt a lot about the wiring in a dizzy and to/from the coil along the way.

Besides breaks to figure out what the ***** I was doing and dinner and drinks breaks it would of taken half an hour of a competent persons time.

All up it is piss easy requiring no machining to the shaft.

Took some photos along the way, I'll post em up soon.

Sorry to hijack.

Mate, can I have the details of who you bought the unit from and how much. PM it if you want.

I got ripped off by a reseller in Sydney. Took my money and never got the f*****g thing just excuses. (if you want to know who to avoid PM me)

Rod

Post by **patrol42** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:44 am

You want the LS (Lobe Sensing) model Part Number Pertronix 1762LS

Its been mentioned on here before and they are approx $129.00 inc shipping out of the US. The place to get them is Retro Rockets

http://www.vintageperformance.com/retrorockets/

Post by **Mowie** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:25 am

rOd wrote: Mate, can I have the details of who you bought the unit from and how much.

Just as Patrol42 said. Clink on their link and order from there.

Just be paitent with the mail as it took 11 days for mine to arrive.

Post by **rOd** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:18 pm

Mowie wrote:
rOd wrote: Mate, can I have the details of who you bought the unit from and how much.
Just as Patrol42 said. Clink on their link and order from there.

Just be paitent with the mail as it took 11 days for mine to arrive.

Thanks.

Ive been left waiting for 2 months with not a phone call from these c***s that I ordered from. And when I checked up on it, he had the nerve to tell me not to call them, they will call me and to piss off.

I have been very patient up until now. Its not so much the money anymore.

Rod

Post by **ZOOK60** » Fri May 18, 2007 9:38 pm

I got the ignitor today.

Just wondering what everyone did for he wiring? I mean the red and the black wire that come from the censor?
Did you rewire straight to the ballist resistor and the coil or use the original wiring harness that went to the origanal pionts?

Post by **Freakazoid** » Sat May 19, 2007 1:49 am

Hi Guys I've had Ignitor in my Patrol for upwards of 7 years now. No issues till very recently. Car didn't want to run under no-laod/freewheeling but would run under full load. Eventually figured out the magnetic pick-up unit was rubbing and sticking on the sperator plate that is between the points area and the rotor area. Only when the engine gets hot the thing got stuck in the full advance position. I fiddled with the installation a bit and now it is working again. Just look for the top of the pick-up or the inside of that seperator plate to see if they are rubbing.

Hope this helps.

Post by **Mowie** » Sat May 19, 2007 3:27 am

ZOOK60 wrote:I got the ignitor today. Just wondering what everyone did for he wiring? I mean the red and the black wire that come from the censor?
Did you rewire straight to the ballist resistor and the coil or use the original wiring harness that went to the origanal pionts?

I ran the wires straight to the coil and resistor and have kept my original wires taped up just in case of breakdown I can go back to a points setup without fussing around.

Post by **HOTLEAD** » Sat May 19, 2007 4:26 pm

Ordered the 1762LS lobe sensing version 5 days ago for my 89SWB. Should have it within the next 2 weeks. Carl at Retro Rockets USA was very helpful.

Onyas.

Jim.

Post by **rOd** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:04 pm

HOTLEAD wrote:Ordered the 1762LS lobe sensing version 5 days ago for my 89SWB. Should have it within the next 2 weeks. Carl at Retro Rockets USA was very helpful.

Onyas.

Jim.

Thats funny, because I recieved mine today also. (1762LS) So Retro Rockets must have sent a few to OZ from a recent batch.

Yeah Carl Dudash is great to deal with.

Rod

Post by **Mowie** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:13 pm

So guys, what did you end up paying in total??

Post by **rOd** » Sat May 19, 2007 8:39 pm

Mowie wrote:So guys, what did you end up paying in total??

I paid $121 aud. with freight.

Post by **ZOOK60** » Sat May 19, 2007 9:06 pm

Mowie wrote:So guys, what did you end up paying in total??

I payed $123 AUD. I had a lot of communication with Carl about the original ignitor. He was not aware that you had to machine the dizzy at all. He was actually really surprised. He didnâ€™t understand why there was such a big demand from Australia for the lobe sensor model.

So do the ozzy distributors actually know about the lobe sensing model yet?

Post by **lowexf** » Sat May 19, 2007 9:20 pm

ZOOK60 wrote:
Mowie wrote: So do the ozzy distributors actually know about the lobe sensing model yet?

I rang the Aus distributor of Pertronix the other day, (the one listed on Retro rockets website) can't remember their name, and they recommended the lobe sensor version, but would have to wait a couple of weeks for it to arrive, but it was $220 trade price, I'm going for the retro rockets one aswell.

Post by **offroader-rama** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:07 am

what about warranty its a long way to deal with if something goes wrong i have a crane cams one and i got it through rocket industries and its playing up and its hard enoungh dealing with warranty interstate let alone over seas

Post by **Mowie** » Sun May 20, 2007 2:03 pm

What about it............ send it back over, get a new one sent back and in the mean time keep running a points setup. Even if Retro Rockets didn't pay for the shipping back to them you would still be way infront from purchasing here.

I'm talking about the tiny Ignitor setup not your Crane situation.

From all accounts Carl at Retro Rockets is a good operator.........

Post by **basketcase** » Mon May 21, 2007 6:52 pm

Got my ignitor in the post today from the US.

Faster than post from sydney.

Just got to organise my coil since retro would not send one out. Whats best to use other than the flame thrower?

Post by **zerko** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:57 pm

basketcase wrote:Got my ignitor in the post today from the US. Faster than post from sydney.

Just got to organise my coil since retro would not send one out. Whats best to use other than the flame thrower?

I don't think there is any benefit by going more than a Bosch GT40 or standard.

Post by **HOTLEAD** » Wed May 30, 2007 6:30 pm

Mowie,

I sent you a PM.

Onya.

Jim.

Post by **rOd** » Thu May 31, 2007 1:18 pm

I wish I knew about this Pertronix 4 years ago when I first bought my GQ.

The Lobe Sensor type is defenitely the go.

It absolutely fixed ALL my ignition bullshit!

Rod

Post by **SiNH** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 8:06 am

Hi,

Has anyone been able to find someone in Sydney to supply and fit this Pertronix at a reasonable price? seems like anyone who knows anything about the Pertronix resides in Victoria.

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