Safari Tuff/4 Terrain/RPM/Exedy HD/Custom made??

[Mulisha]

hi guys

I got a TB42 turbo GQ Patrol and i have been frying my Standard clutch over the last few days i'm just trying to find out what clucth i need that i won't ever have to replace.

So maye different brands and types and pressure plate clamps etc etc..

I wanna be able to ride the clutch, do a nice burnout on the road, drop the clucth go up the beach and run 38" tyres if i choose..

What i'm after so i don't sound like a tosser is a clucth that will handle 300rwhp++ and 1500ft.lb tourqe ++ and not have to worry about it sliping or melting or have to have a slightest worry when turning 38's or doing a burnout..

Can anyone tell me were i can go or speak to or order something with a gurantee not to stuff up under harsh punishment ..

Also what price am i looking at for getting somone to install a clucth for me and if u reccommend a clucth could u throw a rough price for me please..


Thanks alot for ya help and hope i didn't sound like a tool just don't wanna be buying another one after i do burnout or ride it to much up the beach or at LCMP or when towing something big ..

Cheers

Rick

[grimbo]

well maybe stop doing burnouts on the street for one. Why do you want to ride the clutch? If you want to run a 38" tyre change your gearing to suit the tyre size which will save your clutch

[Mulisha]

well maybe stop doing burnouts on the street for one. Why do you want to ride the clutch? If you want to run a 38" tyre change your gearing to suit the tyre size which will save your clutch

Jee were can i pick that clucth up from?

[giantracing]

a mate of mine builds custom clutches,for big HP. he done mine 450 HP at treads works great.$750-800 was talkng today to him for my new comp truck, 0438279890

[Mulisha]

a mate of mine builds custom clutches,for big HP. he done mine 450 HP at treads works great.$750-800 was talkng today to him for my new comp truck, 0438279890

Thanks alot mate sounds like what i'm after

Rick..


Just need to sorce someone to fit it with costing a bloody fortune..

[TEAMRPM]

a mate of mine builds custom clutches,for big HP. he done mine 450 HP at treads works great.$750-800 was talkng today to him for my new comp truck, 0438279890

sounds like the go!

i use safari tuff and reckon they are a fantastic clutch. some may dispute this but i dont run 400 hp so


if i blow it ill do somthing about it but if it just wears out then ill replace it!

cheers

[TEAMRPM]

a mate of mine builds custom clutches,for big HP. he done mine 450 HP at treads works great.$750-800 was talkng today to him for my new comp truck, 0438279890

Thanks alot mate sounds like what i'm after

Rick..


Just need to sorce someone to fit it with costing a bloody fortune..

most workshops will do it. id say around $400 just in labour costs.

allow for a genuine rear main seal and machine cost for the flywheel. might need a few rubber boots on the gearbox too ya never know.

or you could always fit it yourself !

[Mulisha]

a mate of mine builds custom clutches,for big HP. he done mine 450 HP at treads works great.$750-800 was talkng today to him for my new comp truck, 0438279890

Thanks alot mate sounds like what i'm after

Rick..


Just need to sorce someone to fit it with costing a bloody fortune..

I was told there a huge gearbox and a pain in the a$$ without a hoist and don't know what ya doing

Thanks alot

Rick.
most workshops will do it. id say around $400 just in labour costs.

allow for a genuine rear main seal and machine cost for the flywheel. might need a few rubber boots on the gearbox too ya never know.

or you could always fit it yourself !

[TEAMRPM]

hi, they are a huge gearbox i agree and it is quite heavy but it is easy enough. it can get tricky because the bellhousing fouls on the body where the starter goes. if you roll the gearbox / transfer as its going in youl be right.

and if ya replace the rear main use a genuine one!

cheers

[Mulisha]

hi, they are a huge gearbox i agree and it is quite heavy but it is easy enough. it can get tricky because the bellhousing fouls on the body where the starter goes. if you roll the gearbox / transfer as its going in youl be right.

and if ya replace the rear main use a genuine one!

cheers

ok cheers mate

If i can get someone to fit it for $400 i will but if not i might have to try myself..

Thanks alot

Rick.

[macca81]

fit it yaself.

and dont do burnouts, buy a gemini for $100 for doin that....

[Mulisha]

fit it yaself.

and dont do burnouts, buy a gemini for $100 for doin that....

But every 19 year old wants to do a burnout




Hmm i thinking of fitting it myself but i don't wanna start and find it hard as hell and have to try get it all back together and then take it to the shop..

Cheers

Rick..


Going to see if anyone wants to do a cashy

[TEAMRPM]

fit it yaself.

and dont do burnouts, buy a gemini for $100 for doin that....

there's a reason gemini's are worth only $100!

they cant do a burnout!


patrol on the other hand..... all day long!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvSyA6g2X9c

[j-top paj]

whats a genuine rear main seal worth?

[HotFourOk]

fit it yaself.

and dont do burnouts, buy a gemini for $100 for doin that....

But every 19 year old wants to do a burnout

No they don't... You watch too much Today Tonight / ACA.

4x4s look Grimace doing burnouts... Except HnM.. he is so cool

[GRINCH]

sounds like you should be looking at a big auto, t700 etc. the problem with haveing a clutch with no give is somthing else down the drivline usually will.

[dirtyGQ]

direct clutches at albion build clutches for 4wd's and drag cars.

[Daisy]

direct clutches at albion build clutches for 4wd's and drag cars.

Yes I've used them.. and they've also made clutches for 1500 hp dyno queens, outback challenge 4x4s, maylaysian rainforest challenge... etc etc

Ive had them in my GQ

800 bux i think it was.. cant remember... but with a 4200 lb pressure plate and a custom clutch it worked really really well.

TOM

[grimbo]

well maybe stop doing burnouts on the street for one. Why do you want to ride the clutch? If you want to run a 38" tyre change your gearing to suit the tyre size which will save your clutch

Jee were can i pick that clucth up from?

why keep changing your clutch because of inappropriate gearing due to the 38s. Changing your gearing will stop you riding your clutch and will put your power back into the right place in the revs.

It seems you want to put a different clutch in because of other problems with the car and driving style. You are just fixing a symptom of the problem not the actual problem

[bogged]

why keep changing your clutch because of inappropriate gearing due to the 38s.

he doesnt have 38's infact the other week in a thread said he hadnt been offroad or done much.....

[Mulisha]

why keep changing your clutch because of inappropriate gearing due to the 38s.

he doesnt have 38's infact the other week in a thread said he hadnt been offroad or done much.....

I don't have 38's correct but i want a clucth i can do anything with and not have to worry about it.

Might give direct clutchs a ring

Thanks

Rick.

[shakes]

he doesnt have 38's infact the other week in a thread said he hadnt been offroad or done much.....

It amazes me that people still respond politely too, especially after good advice from dude's like grimbo and shooting him down

and whoever said stock gemmy's dont do burnouts you've obviously never had a cheap thrashabout, 1.3ltr auto barina's can do standstills if you try hard enough

[Mulisha]

Well rang a few places today and i can get a "High Tourqe Clucth" from Direct clutchs from Briz for $560.

Or Safari Tuff Clutch i "think" that was $660..

I'm going to find out tommorow if i can what will be best as i haven't got a clue..

Cheers Shakes for ya comment

Also mate u still after GRA gear as some are selling on Calia Turbo forum if ur interested..

Cheers

Rick.

[GRINCH]

if you want to spend the money you can get multi plate clutches made up, but youll be looking around the $1000 mark. ring cruisin auto spares, ask to speak to dave and tell him you want a clutch you can flog the s**t out of and dont mind spending the dollars and he will do it for you. He did trev hennings clutch (460+rwhp) in his patrol. He held the record for the hill climb at cruiser for a few years as well as numerous other events, he never had a problem with his clutch, brke plenty of other things though.

[dirtyGQ]

direct clutches at albion build clutches for 4wd's and drag cars.

Yes I've used them.. and they've also made clutches for 1500 hp dyno queens, outback challenge 4x4s, maylaysian rainforest challenge... etc etc

Ive had them in my GQ

800 bux i think it was.. cant remember... but with a 4200 lb pressure plate and a custom clutch it worked really really well.

TOM

mine has lasted me 6 years so far.with heaps of abuse.

[Mulisha]

if you want to spend the money you can get multi plate clutches made up, but youll be looking around the $1000 mark. ring cruisin auto spares, ask to speak to dave and tell him you want a clutch you can flog the s**t out of and dont mind spending the dollars and he will do it for you. He did trev hennings clutch (460+rwhp) in his patrol. He held the record for the hill climb at cruiser for a few years as well as numerous other events, he never had a problem with his clutch, brke plenty of other things though.

Yeah mate i was speaking to him today he said is Trev hennings he has got a very strong clutch with a ton of clamp pressure he said it works very very good but u will break other more expensive things like gearboxs and cranks or crank seal or something and he said that a safari tuff clucth will suit u fine as u don't want it to extreme as it will be hard to drive as the pedal will be hard and shudder etc from the extreme clamp pressure.

I forgot the name but some guy who drives in winch chanleenge in NZ and went to malisyaia rainforest stage and his 4wd has had like $150K spent on it runs a safari tuff.


When i said i want to do burnouts i wanna just smoke some old 31" tyres my friend gets from his work and maybe did a burnout on 33's (maybe) i don't wanna enter burnout comps and go for 5mins on end just have some fun with a few mates..

And when riding the clucth a little just when 4wding and stuff just wanna have a bit of give becuase being a shorty+hills and okay amount of hp u don't wanna be flat to the floor

I'm really thinking of going with this Safari Tuff Clutch but just don't wanna have to repalcing it after 6months time when i choose to get more HP out of my car i wanna try have it so it won't have to replaced at a later date..


How much clamp load does a stock clutch have and how much does the safari have ?

Thanks alot guys

Rick.

Also i was told most custom clucths just have extra clmap load or different plates and stuff and they start out as a HD clucth to start with so maybe the safari might have the clamp load bumped up over a HD?

Cheers

Rick.

[rvh96]

i use a safari in my truck works well i run 37s in the bush never had it slip, for custom set ups try NPC at Coopers Plains he did our drag car set up and its never let us down Direct CLUTCHS had 3 goes at it and still couldnt make it work

[Mulisha]

i use a safari in my truck works well i run 37s in the bush never had it slip, for custom set ups try NPC at Coopers Plains he did our drag car set up and its never let us down Direct CLUTCHS had 3 goes at it and still couldnt make it work

Thanks alot mate for that !!

I think i'll go with the safari just see if it comes with a warranty or something becuase if i go any heavier my pedal is going to feel like i have no vacume and heavy as sh1t

So yeah might just go pick up a safari tommorow

Just got to see if it is worth me trying to pull this gearbox out myself or not... best quote is $450 + rear main seal + machine flywheel.. then maybe clutch master cylinder near gearbox done the one on the fire wall.

Thanks alot

Rick.

[+dj_hansen+]

Just got to see if it is worth me trying to pull this gearbox out myself or not... best quote is $450 + rear main seal + machine flywheel.. then maybe clutch master cylinder near gearbox done the one on the fire wall.

Thanks alot

Rick.

Thats your slave cylinder, like i said before (i think in another thread), go to a wreckers and buy a diesel flywheel, and use a diesel clutch kit, they have a slightly higher clamping pressure than the petrols, and bolt straight on.

[TEAMRPM]

Just got to see if it is worth me trying to pull this gearbox out myself or not... best quote is $450 + rear main seal + machine flywheel.. then maybe clutch master cylinder near gearbox done the one on the fire wall.

Thanks alot

Rick.

Thats your slave cylinder, like i said before (i think in another thread), go to a wreckers and buy a diesel flywheel, and use a diesel clutch kit, they have a slightly higher clamping pressure than the petrols, and bolt straight on.

you dont even need to get a diesel flywheel. if you use the diesel safari clutch kit the clutch plate has a better dampning springs and the pressure plate has a tighter clamping force. this woll bolt straight up to your petrol flywheel. without a booster on the clutch it will be harder that usual but its all worth it!


just put one in mine and i love it! im not running 400 hp but it certainly gets used.