How Hard to engineer this in NSW

[Try_Me]

this is the lift im thinking of doing any suggestions all for a vitara


CALMINI 3inc lift kit
http://www.puresuzuki.com/3_lift_kit.htm


VRS


http://www.trailtough.com/sidekick.htm
Turn your Sidekick / Tracker into a serious off-road machine! 40â€

[want33s]

TRY_ME Wrote
"Turn your Sidekick / Tracker into a serious off-road machine! 40â€

[Gwagensteve]

Judging by the photos on the website, yep, it's doing 40"

Comments here are re the trailtough kit and relate to my experience in Vic with engineering:

This *might* be able to be certed, but the process will not be clean and easy.

You will need to approach engineers with what you want to do before you order, buy, cut, ship ANYTHING!

I can't comment on all possibilities or specifics but here are some pointers.

Engineers don't want to be sold an idea, they will make their own decisions. remember, they have forgotten more about cars than we will ever know.
They will want to baseline your car to take measurements.This will mwan you car will need to go back to standard.

They will only permit certain height and tyres. not every engineer will give you the same answer as to what they will allow. One engineer might only allow you 205R16's because that is the stock hilux tyre, but might allow a body lift, while another might allow 33's but won't come at a BL. It will be up to you to make your choice based on the best compromise.

Once you start down the track with an engineer you will be locked in . remember, this is this guy's job so don't stuff him around.

Sticking points are likely to be with the trail tough kit:

Overall height - this is a tall kit.
Stability - the engineer will want to do something like a constant radius test and compare it to your stock car
they are likely to be concerned about any part they don't have control over, like the fabrication of US made brackets and arms. they may ask for testing (such as magnafluxing) by a NATA endorsed laboratory.
Track width.
The construction of johnny joints.

With the Calmini kit:
Testing of brackety for quality of welds (this has had to be done in Vic with this kit)
the heim joint on the A arm is NOT ABLE TO BE ENGINEERED and is poor quality anyway.
3" body lifts are generally difficult to engineer.

Just some things to think about.

I know that NSW rules are different - I have seen some ....interesting..... fab work certed in NSW. Others may have more specific advice.

Steve.[/b]

[Squik]

From experience... forget the Calmini bodylift kit altogether, nothing about it is legal here in Australia.

Go to BBM and ask Liam for a set of Vitara bodylift blocks and bolts, extend your T-Case shifter yourself by welding in a piece and then contact Suzitech at Thornleigh to extend your steering, they do a near factory job and engineers love it.... all good... all legal... all stress-less.

..don't do it the hard way and have to replace just about everything you used from the Calmini B/L kit like I did
Buy Australian... a US kit is like waving a red flag at a bull to an engineer...

[cj]

From experience... forget the Calmini bodylift kit altogether, nothing about it is legal here in Australia.


..don't do it the hard way and have to replace just about everything you used from the Calmini B/L kit like I did

Some people like to learn the hard way I keep trying to suggest that people not bother with the Calmini 3" bodylift but some feel the need to do it anyway.

[Try_Me]

well understood

cj
i think i was on of them lol still thinking ahhh wat the heck do it anyway but yeh nah dont think i will bother now

[sierrajim]

**NOTE check with your RTA and engineer, do not take ANYTHING said on a forum/internet as being the law/absolute truth*****

You guys in NSW can engineer some absolute junk. Sounds harsh but i have seen some VERY poor qulity work engineered. Based on this i shouldn't think there would be a great problem if you found one of "those" engineers.

But why not just go to someone like overkill and get them to do the job. They've done atleast two before and had them approved.

[Toecutta]

From experience... forget the Calmini bodylift kit altogether, nothing about it is legal here in Australia.


..don't do it the hard way and have to replace just about everything you used from the Calmini B/L kit like I did

Some people like to learn the hard way I keep trying to suggest that people not bother with the Calmini 3" bodylift but some feel the need to do it anyway.

I know of at least two full 6" Calmini kit engineered in Canberra no problems

[Try_Me]

still tossing about it now should i or shouldnt i go the 3inc BL with the calmini kit

also going to give overkill a call ask him for the same lift the trail tough one see what he says

cheers nick

[Squik]

From experience... forget the Calmini bodylift kit altogether, nothing about it is legal here in Australia.


..don't do it the hard way and have to replace just about everything you used from the Calmini B/L kit like I did

Some people like to learn the hard way I keep trying to suggest that people not bother with the Calmini 3" bodylift but some feel the need to do it anyway.

I know of at least two full 6" Calmini kit engineered in Canberra no problems

How a 1" alloy block, stacked on top of a piece of 2"sq box cut with a chunk of rubber on top, held together with one bolt from the top holding half and one bolt from the bottom holding the other half can be legal here... It was explained to me why this doesn't work and I could see why once it was in... see how the box cut doesn't even sit in the round well at the bottom... check this out on the X90 before we swapped them out with solid blocks and one continuous bolt...

Before bolts in


Bolted up


As I said BBM have legal Vit ones bolts and all... only other thing you will need is a 3" piece of 2"d exhaust pipe to extend your fuel filler.

Other Calmini stuff is brilliant, I have the rock crawler gears, rocksliders and a couple of suspension components that are great (springs are no good for an X90)... just steer clear of the bodylift kit... bad... very very bad