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Post by ferguson »

hey all,

well it's getting close to engine swap time. i've been scrolling through a few old threads on the subject looking for any suppliers of applause swaps, but haven't seen too many mentioned. can anyone point me in the direction of a supplier or 2 that i can ring? i'm in sydney.

also, does anyone know the correct model applause engine, re. bolt patterns etc, that would fit my 93 SXll ??

finally, can anyone reccommend a mechanic etc, who would be capable of doing the work?

not after much am i :lol:

thaks heaps
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Give Ichiban (sp?) in Sydney a call. They should be able to advise re the bolt pattern too.
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Post by ferguson »

...yeah, got ichibahn from one of your old threads AJ, thanks... you happy with your swap??
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Yep, prolly gotta do another inthe next year or so though.... I haven't been kind to this motor, but it's held up extremely well.
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Post by MightyMouse »

any HD engine will do.... NOT HC as they are 1.3 ltr

From your old engine you will need.

pulleys ( Applauses use 2 x Polly Vee... )
Block water inlet and outlet
Sump and pickup
inlet and exhaust manifolds complete ( DONT USE APPLAUSE INTAKE )
Flywheel and clutch
Aircon stuff / altenator / powersteer
Engine mounts
Temp senders - ( hav'nt use Applause ones but could be fine )
Dipstick tube and dipstick
Distributor ( depends on Applause model - so use Feroza )
Flywheel to crank bolts if Appluase is an auto ( manual - longer ? )
Altenator mount ( depends on Appluase )

Apart form the camshaft the engine cores are the same so wll all
bolt up with little pain.

Prices - Applause from "self serve" wrecker $120 but you have to
find / select / remove - or pay to have removed ($150)

From wrecker $1000 seems common

A common source of newer engines - its not really a conversion !
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Post by cj »

MightyMouse wrote:any HD engine will do.... NOT HC as they are 1.3 ltr

From your old engine you will need.

pulleys ( Applauses use 2 x Polly Vee... )
Block water inlet and outlet
Sump and pickup
inlet and exhaust manifolds complete ( DONT USE APPLAUSE INTAKE )
Flywheel and clutch
Aircon stuff / altenator / powersteer
Engine mounts
Temp senders - ( hav'nt use Applause ones but could be fine )
Dipstick tube and dipstick
Distributor ( depends on Applause model - so use Feroza )
Flywheel to crank bolts if Appluase is an auto ( manual - longer ? )
Altenator mount ( depends on Appluase )

Apart form the camshaft the engine cores are the same so wll all
bolt up with little pain.

Prices - Applause from "self serve" wrecker $120 but you have to
find / select / remove - or pay to have removed ($150)

From wrecker $1000 seems common

A common source of newer engines - its not really a conversion !
You'd know ;) :lol:
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Post by ferguson »

...just rang ichiban, nothing in stock
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Make sure you tell anybody you call that you're after an Applause motor. I found that most of the people I called instantly replied "no" when I mentioned Feroza, but changed tack when I said Applause.
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Post by MightyMouse »

CJ - Its a piece of knowledge that I am not sure I really want to know.

Still needs must when....... :cry:
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Post by murcod »

MightyMouse wrote:any HD engine will do.... NOT HC as they are 1.3 ltr

From your old engine you will need.

pulleys ( Applauses use 2 x Polly Vee... )
Distributor ( depends on Applause model - so use Feroza )
Some Ferozas use a V pulley - eg. mine! :D

What's the difference with the distributor? IMHO you should try to stick with the Applause one because the advance curve is different and matches the different cam.
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Post by ferguson »

...rang a guy who has one for $1300 with a 12mth unlimited kms warranty... worth it??
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Post by murcod »

ferguson wrote:...rang a guy who has one for $1300 with a 12mth unlimited kms warranty... worth it??
Check carefully what the warranty covers..... it might be worthless...
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

I kept the Applause dizzy on my new motor. Only time she's pinged was a 45 deg day with really cr@p fuel.... no premium available where i filled up.

The old motor pinged on even mildly warm days with premium fuel.
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Post by MightyMouse »

Some Applauases had distributors with electronic timing control via
another seperate ECU so this comment was just to be safe.

There are also timing differences between some models - effects
vary deping mostly on RPM. With 31's a selected Applause disy was better
than stock - less ping.

As for pulleys - mine has a combination of a V for altenator & water pump
pollyvee for powersteering.

The Applauses that I have seen are dual pollyvee and have
different pulley ratios so they might undercool / undercharge if you
do lots of low speed work - ie they are optimised for road use.
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Post by murcod »

Hmmm... a seperate computer for the ignition! Have you got any more details- I'd love to dispose of my "weights, springs and vaccum chambers" distributor.

Mine has the V and flat ribbed belt too. I know some Ferozas have got two ribbed belts (which was what I thought you were referring to.)
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