Hi to all , im looking at getting a set of the Jungle trekkers for my Rangie and would like some feed back on the pro's and con's of them on road and off road ect , durabilities , ect . Im looking at 33x10.5x16 and being a newbie {read pain in the arse} do these require tubes or just tubeless ??
Also what are the average sort of prices around ? I was quoted $300 per tyre , am i getting raped ????
onya , and ta for your responces
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Where you live will determine the price. In Vic, apparently they are going for about $270ish, though in Sydney they are going for $298ea in that size. From what I heard today via the grapevine they may be out of the 33x10.5-16 JT2 and there is a back order of about 1 month on them.
I have not had a chance to off road these properly yet, but of the little light stuff I have done the side lugs bite really hard on rock steps.
On road they vibrate lots at running speeds, have flat spots from being parked, are noisy as all hell and as lethal when high speed braking other than straight. They really are 2nd set tyres. Pro's. Everybody looks at them all the time and kiddies climb up the lugs if that impresses you.
I have not had a chance to off road these properly yet, but of the little light stuff I have done the side lugs bite really hard on rock steps.
On road they vibrate lots at running speeds, have flat spots from being parked, are noisy as all hell and as lethal when high speed braking other than straight. They really are 2nd set tyres. Pro's. Everybody looks at them all the time and kiddies climb up the lugs if that impresses you.
Cheers
Slunnie
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Slunnie
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yeah the guy said ike 15's were $265 each and the 16's are $300 each ? go figure ?? im running 285x75x16's in BFG mt at moment but the lugs have started to peel off on the outer edges so i wanted something a little more durable . I was put off the Cenapedes for sheer noise so i hope that the Jungles arnt as bad ???? Mate i know im probly a pain in the arse being new to the scene and asking questions about stuff that you guys more than likely covered 100 times but i really don't want to get stitched up !
discourage inbreeding , ban country music ! Rover didn't make computers as they just couldn't find a way for them to leak oil .
Ha ha ha i dont mind kids jumpin and climbing over my tyres just not under them , their mumies wouldn't have much of a sence of humour !
Im not into leaning over my bonnet at shopping centers talking slap with others , i would rather do it at the top of a hill over a beer or 5 , but seriously Slunnnie are you glad you got them on or would you rather a Mud T like the Cooper or such ?? Wish that there were some second hand near new to grab then i could justify a set of townies !
N.A.M thanks for the vote of confidence , what rubber are you running ?
Im not into leaning over my bonnet at shopping centers talking slap with others , i would rather do it at the top of a hill over a beer or 5 , but seriously Slunnnie are you glad you got them on or would you rather a Mud T like the Cooper or such ?? Wish that there were some second hand near new to grab then i could justify a set of townies !
N.A.M thanks for the vote of confidence , what rubber are you running ?
discourage inbreeding , ban country music ! Rover didn't make computers as they just couldn't find a way for them to leak oil .
I'm not sure yet Tiggr to be honest. On the road muddies are heaps better, but I've yet to decide. I am wondering if Radial Claws would have been the best compromise for me now with an agressive tread and radial construction. I think as a 2nd set they will be awsome. I really wanted more than MT's for offroad work though.
Cheers
Slunnie
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Slunnie
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alright you asked for the newbie to perform again with a dum de dum dumm question ....where and who has the radial claws ? im sort of driven by a limit on funds of $300 per corner as i have to get the air cond rebuilt and that alone is $400 mmmm what's that saying if it's got a skirt or transmission ........
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My mate Clitty is running Radial Claws on his zook, and he is very happy with them. The only time there abit slippy is in sloshy mud on side slopes.
And there not the quietest tyre on road either. Dont wanna get you all confused so I say go the JT2s and get a second set of street tryes
EDIT: Shit 300 dollars per corner ignore my suggestion of a second street set. I JUST REALLY LIKE THE JT2s and ET
And there not the quietest tyre on road either. Dont wanna get you all confused so I say go the JT2s and get a second set of street tryes
EDIT: Shit 300 dollars per corner ignore my suggestion of a second street set. I JUST REALLY LIKE THE JT2s and ET
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JT2's work out to be the most affordable play tyres out there - cheaper than the radial claw (the radial claw is still a radial - a radial is nowhere near as strong as the JT2). I have a set that see duty on a lightweight Hilux and a heavy weight Maverick. On road they aren't the best, but everything is a compromise, if you drive your rig accordingly you won't have a problem. These tyres are exceptional offroad with plenty of beef in the sidewalls to resist damage. Mine have some deep cuts that are still in the rubber, no cord damage. I prefer a tyre with a firm sidewall, a tyre that won't squirm and ripple at low pressures and a bead that won't give at 5psi without a lock, the JT2 is that tyre. They will flat spot in a short time, but almost every bias ply will flat spot. Changing the wheels over doesnt take too long for the pleasure of driving on bias ply playtyres.
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got a set on my bundera.. 34x11.5. awesome tyre, sidewalls are theat stong they dont bulge too much on ~12psi, havent had to go lower than that - probably didnt even need to go to 12.
very loud on road, great off road.
I have a second set of tyres though (31" mallers) so I dont drive on the JT2s a lot, just a week here and there whenever I go wheeling and just cant be stuffed changing them back.
my 34x11.5s were $315 each down here in victoria about 1.5 months ago if that helps.
very loud on road, great off road.
I have a second set of tyres though (31" mallers) so I dont drive on the JT2s a lot, just a week here and there whenever I go wheeling and just cant be stuffed changing them back.
my 34x11.5s were $315 each down here in victoria about 1.5 months ago if that helps.
I think the JT2's are a great looking tyre and they definately appear to work quite well.
My only issue with them is that they appear to have a loose fitting bead.
Let me explain.
A fellow in a Suzuki that came out driving with us was running some 34x10.5x15 JT2's on (i think) some 15x7" rims. I believe these were being run at between 5 and 10psi, and he simultaneously propped both his rear tyres off the beads. Now this is nothing unusual considering the low pressures but...
The interesting part was that he had very minimal trouble slipping one bead off the wheel so that mud and debrey could be cleaned out of the tyre, before very simply reseating the bead simly by standing on it. (in comparison to my swampers that too a solid half hour each with two people and some tyre leavers and some soap to get onto the rims).
I realise that the abnormallity in this scenerio could have been the rims - perhaps they were a tad smaller than standard (?), or, perhaps the inside diameter of the tyre beads for JT2's are a tag big?
Note: the tyres had been on these rims for between 3 and 6 months at the time that this occurred - so i expect they should have settled - but probably had not had a chance to really bond with the rim.
Has anyone else found this?
My only issue with them is that they appear to have a loose fitting bead.
Let me explain.
A fellow in a Suzuki that came out driving with us was running some 34x10.5x15 JT2's on (i think) some 15x7" rims. I believe these were being run at between 5 and 10psi, and he simultaneously propped both his rear tyres off the beads. Now this is nothing unusual considering the low pressures but...
The interesting part was that he had very minimal trouble slipping one bead off the wheel so that mud and debrey could be cleaned out of the tyre, before very simply reseating the bead simly by standing on it. (in comparison to my swampers that too a solid half hour each with two people and some tyre leavers and some soap to get onto the rims).
I realise that the abnormallity in this scenerio could have been the rims - perhaps they were a tad smaller than standard (?), or, perhaps the inside diameter of the tyre beads for JT2's are a tag big?
Note: the tyres had been on these rims for between 3 and 6 months at the time that this occurred - so i expect they should have settled - but probably had not had a chance to really bond with the rim.
Has anyone else found this?
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Small rim is the problem. Simex tyres are made with very tight tolerances, and are an extremely well balanced tyre.
I run mine on 15x8" rim, reasonable sort of work with a bead breaker and levers. I dont even bother with tyre spooge, just a block of lux soap dissolved in a container with water, applied with a dish brush. Seat the bead with water. Never popped a bead, 8psi on the Mav wagon and 5 on the camolux. 34x10x15 JT2. I have to strip the tyres about once a year to get out the pebbles of soil that find their way past the bead.
You can buy REMA tyre spooge, this will aid tyre assembly and bonding to the rim.
I run mine on 15x8" rim, reasonable sort of work with a bead breaker and levers. I dont even bother with tyre spooge, just a block of lux soap dissolved in a container with water, applied with a dish brush. Seat the bead with water. Never popped a bead, 8psi on the Mav wagon and 5 on the camolux. 34x10x15 JT2. I have to strip the tyres about once a year to get out the pebbles of soil that find their way past the bead.
You can buy REMA tyre spooge, this will aid tyre assembly and bonding to the rim.
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Yep I've got 34x11.5x15" JT2's got a good deal from Locky at Pro Comp.
Have damn well transformed the car, excellent mud tyre, luckily the Poojabber has enough power to spin em to clear the slop out. So far on wet greasy rocks I'm very impressed. Compared to my previous 33x12.5 BFG muddies they are like chalk and cheese offroad.
I still wreckon they are better than a Baja Claw in the slop due to the agressive side lugs.
On road they are average, they do develop flat spots after 3-4 hrs and are way noisier than a BFG mud. Don't go trying to stop suddenly in the wet or take corners too fast but you get used to it.
A very strong robust tyre, superb in the mud, excellent on rocks and priced very reasonably compared to the competition.
Have damn well transformed the car, excellent mud tyre, luckily the Poojabber has enough power to spin em to clear the slop out. So far on wet greasy rocks I'm very impressed. Compared to my previous 33x12.5 BFG muddies they are like chalk and cheese offroad.
I still wreckon they are better than a Baja Claw in the slop due to the agressive side lugs.
On road they are average, they do develop flat spots after 3-4 hrs and are way noisier than a BFG mud. Don't go trying to stop suddenly in the wet or take corners too fast but you get used to it.
A very strong robust tyre, superb in the mud, excellent on rocks and priced very reasonably compared to the competition.
I just luv my "clacker Jabber"
Ran my 34x10.5x15 JT2's for a couple of years and couldn't of been happier with them.
Probably put about 10-20,000km on them and ran them as my only set of tyres on and offroad.
Ran them as low as 4psi off road on 15x7" rims and never had one come off the rim.
This was on a jeep wrangler.
Only changed tyres as I needed bigger ones
Probably put about 10-20,000km on them and ran them as my only set of tyres on and offroad.
Ran them as low as 4psi off road on 15x7" rims and never had one come off the rim.
This was on a jeep wrangler.
Only changed tyres as I needed bigger ones
`thanks heaps guys , golf clapps all round ! Well i got a set of BFG m/t on the cheap today $240 each brand new and with the cash left over i thru a deposit on the jt2's
33x10.5x16 , it's great to get non salesmen-sharks - as experiance IS everyting , well done and thanks heaps
33x10.5x16 , it's great to get non salesmen-sharks - as experiance IS everyting , well done and thanks heaps
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