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Post by professor »

Maggot4x4 wrote:Any plans to do these for the front and rear of Disco II's?
We have thought about it.

If someone was keen to run it we would need a vehical to engineer off.

We havent run an XLink on the rear of a car yet could be good.

has anyone got pics of the front and rear setup?

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Post by Slunnie »

Disco2 suspension

Looks like the watts link will be in the way at the rear, and the panhard in the front.

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Post by professor »

keep an eye out on next months 4wd monthly :cool:
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Post by scorched »

So just in seeing crankycruisers thread will we need a high angle shafts with x links?

Ive got a short wheel base GQ.

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Post by professor »

terrytuffnut wrote:So just in seeing crankycruisers thread will we need a high angle shafts with x links?

Ive got a short wheel base GQ.

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Post by Nelso »

Have you got any pics of one on a Patrol yet?
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Post by Vulcanised »

professor wrote:
terrytuffnut wrote:So just in seeing crankycruisers thread will we need a high angle shafts with x links?

Ive got a short wheel base GQ.

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what about 6" lift?
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Post by JemmyBubbles »

Call me slow or whatever... I promise I was reading this thread as it was being written last year.

But... yer top sh!t dobbin and professor :D for coming up with such a dirt simple yet elegant solution to sh!tty radius arm flex. There is something about it that just strikes me as duuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrr !!!!111 etc etc any how

I've been doing a bit of reading about home grown jobs at the moment, that road seems a little dodgewah for my liking. Really thinking about one for the front of my shorty gq that I have fallen in love with again...

Has anyone taken the plunge and put one on the front of a shorty ? Photos driveabilitttteh etc...

At the moment the truck has around 4" of lift and uses 5.5 degree castor plates. Given that the chassis end bush of the radius arm is already a little on the flexed side... their wouldn't be much gain in the way of down travel from the radius arms yer?... leading to purchase of drop arms... ?
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Post by noelb1 »

CAN YOU DO A SMALLER VERSION FOR A ZOOK?
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Post by professor »

JemmyBubbles wrote:Call me slow or whatever... I promise I was reading this thread as it was being written last year.

But... yer top sh!t dobbin and professor :D for coming up with such a dirt simple yet elegant solution to sh!tty radius arm flex. There is something about it that just strikes me as duuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrr !!!!111 etc etc any how

I've been doing a bit of reading about home grown jobs at the moment, that road seems a little dodgewah for my liking. Really thinking about one for the front of my shorty gq that I have fallen in love with again...

Has anyone taken the plunge and put one on the front of a shorty ? Photos driveabilitttteh etc...

At the moment the truck has around 4" of lift and uses 5.5 degree castor plates. Given that the chassis end bush of the radius arm is already a little on the flexed side... their wouldn't be much gain in the way of down travel from the radius arms yer?... leading to purchase of drop arms... ?

Thanks for the plug!!

There is not one on a shorty yet you may be the first.

drop arms and Xlinks work very well!!!

After some descusion and a review of the XLink there has been a decision to drop the price from $935 to $650 inc gst. So if the price has been keeping you from purchasing one, You have no excuse now.

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Post by professor »

noelb1 wrote:CAN YOU DO A SMALLER VERSION FOR A ZOOK?
We might be able to do one as a custom setup but we need the rig and some time to engineer it.(at the moment time is a problem).

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Post by noelb1 »

professor wrote:
noelb1 wrote:CAN YOU DO A SMALLER VERSION FOR A ZOOK?
We might be able to do one as a custom setup but we need the rig and some time to engineer it.(at the moment time is a problem).

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Post by mud4b »

professor wrote:
JemmyBubbles wrote:Call me slow or whatever... I promise I was reading this thread as it was being written last year.

But... yer top sh!t dobbin and professor :D for coming up with such a dirt simple yet elegant solution to sh!tty radius arm flex. There is something about it that just strikes me as duuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrr !!!!111 etc etc any how

I've been doing a bit of reading about home grown jobs at the moment, that road seems a little dodgewah for my liking. Really thinking about one for the front of my shorty gq that I have fallen in love with again...

Has anyone taken the plunge and put one on the front of a shorty ? Photos driveabilitttteh etc...

At the moment the truck has around 4" of lift and uses 5.5 degree castor plates. Given that the chassis end bush of the radius arm is already a little on the flexed side... their wouldn't be much gain in the way of down travel from the radius arms yer?... leading to purchase of drop arms... ?

Thanks for the plug!!

There is not one on a shorty yet you may be the first.

drop arms and Xlinks work very well!!!

After some descusion and a review of the XLink there has been a decision to drop the price from $935 to $650 inc gst. So if the price has been keeping you from purchasing one, You have no excuse now.

Chad.

is this a limited time price?

i will be after one for a 80 in 2 weeks..
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Post by professor »

This will most likely be the full time price but once this batch is sold it will be some time before another batch is made.
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Post by beretta »

Not sure if someone has asked you or not, but how do you think the x-link would cope on a winch challenge truck, so high speed impacts etc.

I really think the idea is fantastic, just haven't seen one on a OBC style truck and am interested to know what you think.

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Post by mud4b »

professor wrote:This will most likely be the full time price but once this batch is sold it will be some time before another batch is made.

do you have 3 instock? for 80 series.

ive got 2 mates wanting them now that the price has dropped (they have been talking about getting one each for ages) ill just get all 3 freighted to here since ill be fitting them. can you organise freight to eudlo, qld, 4554 or do we need to organise it from our end?

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Post by wrksux »

whats the rough cost on engineering them? this would be for vic. also do you have a joint that would handle everything down here like fitting and engineering. ive used a welder once in my life and dont want to take that risk! :finger:

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Post by professor »

mud4b wrote:
professor wrote:This will most likely be the full time price but once this batch is sold it will be some time before another batch is made.

do you have 3 instock? for 80 series.

ive got 2 mates wanting them now that the price has dropped (they have been talking about getting one each for ages) ill just get all 3 freighted to here since ill be fitting them. can you organise freight to eudlo, qld, 4554 or do we need to organise it from our end?

cheers mark
Hey Mark

Yep there are enough ready to send.

freight eather way,It is best if you can organise a pickup. the total weight packaged is 15kg each. I think it cost around $80 to $100 to get one sent to QLD it may work out cheaper for the 3. if you can organise a pick up from 1/94 Hassall Street, Wetherill Park NSW 2164 Australia and transfer the funds prior to pick up (pm for ACC details) That would be good.

If you have any conserns drop me a line on 0418441064.

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Post by professor »

wrksux wrote:whats the rough cost on engineering them? this would be for vic. also do you have a joint that would handle everything down here like fitting and engineering. ive used a welder once in my life and dont want to take that risk! :finger:

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I'm not sure of the cost for engineering but i can put you onto some one that can answer that question.

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Post by professor »

beretta wrote:Not sure if someone has asked you or not, but how do you think the x-link would cope on a winch challenge truck, so high speed impacts etc.

I really think the idea is fantastic, just haven't seen one on a OBC style truck and am interested to know what you think.

Cheers, Paul
No one is running one yet. I think the concern is that the body roll will be affected more, concern that it wont be as stable. The strenght would not be a problem.

one thing I can say would be an advantage is the fact that the front offers a great deal more traction and balance to the front drive and is more likly to keep both front wheels on the ground or on the ground more when needed Like under braking and not influence the chassis and handeling as dramaticly when the wheels come into contact with a large obstical(both under drive and under braking). this may mean that the spring rates or shock rates or even the sway bar may need adjustment to offset the changes, just tuning and setup like you would with any high performance comp car.

On performance. If there is someone out there that has good exposure has an impressive resume for OBC style events and is thinking of running an XLink we would like to hear from them. We too are interested in seeing how an XLink would perform under these conditions.

Somthing to think about.

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Post by mud4b »

chad.

for the cruisers 80 series one has a 4" lift one has a 5" lift and mine will prob be a 5 or 6" lift.

is it better to flip the std arms or is it better to buy some of those dropped arms? will either work any better with the xlink?

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Post by plowy »

i have fitted 80 series diffs n coils to my 40 series and also have the front arms flipped for more diff clearance
im running stock springs as well [ i wanted the truck low wide n flexable ]

the front is running standrard length 80 series shocks and some long travel shocks in the rear
now the rear was flexin awseome but there was stuff all in the front

i went to glen dobbins for help with the xlink and he has many people asking the fitment of one with flipped arms

after a couple of weeks of guinee pig trials i got my xlink for my truck yesterday, and had it fitted buy the arvo

here are some flex pics from today, i need is some new length shocks to cop with the new amount of travel as i had to remove my stock ones to let the front flex

carnt wait to get new length shocks n finish it so i can go for a drive n fully test it out

a big cheers to glen dobbins for his help and helping me to get more out of my rig just driving/playng in the rut the truck feels more stable /able to go further

thanks to rod for also staying back at work to fit it for me sat arvo :armsup: even when the wife did want him home :oops:

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Post by plowy »

here are some pics of the trucks flex before the xlink

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Post by Guy »

plowy wrote:here are some pics of the trucks flex before the xlink
it certainly balanced the front to rear travel, do you have any where it is not flexed to the max (to see when the front end really starts working, as I have seen lots of vehicles that look great fully flexed, but they look very funky getting there if you know what I mean)
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Post by Mick. »

For anyone wanting a simple guide to fitting an X-Link this is one I did when we installed mine.

http://www.downunder4x4.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6693

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Post by udm »

plowy wrote:
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stu, youve done a top job mate... :D

and remember to always keep the shiny side up :lol:

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Post by Bush65 »

Good results.

That's an interesting bend at the axle end of the panhard. I guess it was the only option without converting to high steer.
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Post by udm »

Bush65 wrote:Good results.

That's an interesting bend at the axle end of the panhard.
the 80series front panhard is solid and factory bent...

EDIT... but now that I check it out, it does looks different.
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Post by Modified Toy »

They are bent factory but it has had slight assistance :)
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Post by plowy »

luve mud , no i only took pics of the truck fully flexed hopefully i shall have a new set of shocks this weekend and will take more pics of it in action
but driving the truck into those position it did feel pretty comfortable /stable in the seat

udm and bush 65 , stop looking so hard its a factory press bend :lol:

and udm yes shiny side up does work be :oops:
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