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Rancho question..?

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Rancho question..?

Post by Lucus »

Im just fitting a set of rs5000's to me 93 and i've got a question for anybody thats fitted the before.....

did you install the fronts with the boots(and thusly rod) at the top or the bottom? which was is the correct way?

thanks in advance guys

Luke :D
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Post by RockyNL »

If i'm reading you right bud, To the top.
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Post by Lucus »

boots to the top so shock body at the bottom.....damn i fitted them the other way.....they seem yo be a full extension with the car sitting at its norm ride hieght...? wtf?
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Post by mark4130 »

they seem yo be a full extension with the car sitting at its norm ride hieght...? wtf?

I had this problem few years back with some pro comp shocks turned out to be the wrong size shocks for the lift i had.Ended up ripping the the tops off the towers!I was a little nieve back then and didnt realise till it was to late.Id check with who supplied them before refitting them,sounds like there the wrong size!

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Post by red90 »

Yep, you either have the wrong shocks or too much lift.
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Post by Lucus »

yup i thin k your right (about the wrong shocks bit) because my 93 was airbag and got converted to coils it has the forward shock mounting which appear to be around 75 to 80mm higher than the original turret mounts that th older rangies had...oh well

I have a set of turrets and bolt plates but would prefer to keep the forward shock mountings as theres heaps more room in the engine bay.. :roll:
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Post by Aquarangie »

If you're running the poly bushes, toss 'em and fit rubber. I fitted poly to the bottom mounts and they cracked within 3 months of fitting :shock:

I had Ranchos on the same model Rangie, use rubber on all of them.

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Re: Rancho question..?

Post by justinC »

Lucus wrote:Im just fitting a set of rs5000's to me 93 and i've got a question for anybody thats fitted the before.....

did you install the fronts with the boots(and thusly rod) at the top or the bottom? which was is the correct way?

thanks in advance guys

Luke :D
Hey Luke.

It doesn't matter which way up you fit them, they won't work properly anyhow!!! :P :P (:bad-words: Rancho's :bad-words: )
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Re: Rancho question..?

Post by Lucus »

justinC wrote:
Lucus wrote:Im just fitting a set of rs5000's to me 93 and i've got a question for anybody thats fitted the before.....

did you install the fronts with the boots(and thusly rod) at the top or the bottom? which was is the correct way?

thanks in advance guys

Luke :D
Hey Luke.

It doesn't matter which way up you fit them, they won't work properly anyhow!!! :P :P (:bad-words: Rancho's :bad-words: )
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Why do you say that mate? my intial impressions with just the rears fitted is very good?
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Post by Team Raider »

Lucus wrote:
justinC wrote:
Lucus wrote:Im just fitting a set of rs5000's to me 93 and i've got a question for anybody thats fitted the before.....

did you install the fronts with the boots(and thusly rod) at the top or the bottom? which was is the correct way?

thanks in advance guys

Luke :D
Hey Luke.

It doesn't matter which way up you fit them, they won't work properly anyhow!!! :P :P (:bad-words: Rancho's :bad-words: )
JC
Yeah! They're great in the mall crawl but fade very fast offroad.
Once they fade they never come back to full original condition and just degrade more and more each time they get hot.

My RS9000s on my Disco faded within 15 minutes offroad doing Ngarkat track...
They didnt impress me at all....

Mates vehicle had the same issue at Zig Zag.. (Blue Mtns)
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Post by HSV Rangie »

they will fade as soon as they get any real use.

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Post by Lucus »

hmm okay well i'l see how they go if they came up as bad as you guys have stated they can go back to supplier.
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Post by A*D*A*M »

I've also got a '93 with coil conversion. I too had a bugger of a time getting front shocks for a +2 inch lift. Try front landcruiser shocks, 80 series I think. Don't know if 100 series are the same. Valving was a bit too stiff though (I guess for a heavier front end, or maybe just the brand). Guys rave about pro-comp shocks. Konis if you can afford.

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Post by Lucus »

i have gone for the +2" 80series fronts I'l see how they go re stiffness.

I haven't tried procomps but have koni's on my xr6t ute and for the $'s im not overly impressed.....opinions on shock and tires are like a$$hole tho.... :D
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Post by grover1968 »

You can't trust the guys who sell the shocks to you. I was sold a set of lovells springs after a couple of hours fitting them, they were the same height.
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Post by Maggot4x4 »

If you want great shocks at the right price, look here

http://www.eshocks.com/bil_ORsb.asp?Ser ... &SubChar=Q
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Post by KiwiBacon »

Lucus wrote:but have koni's on my xr6t ute and for the $'s im not overly impressed.....opinions on shock and tires are like a$$hole tho.... :D
How have you adjusted the koni's?

I rate the ones in my rangie quite highly. They've done over 200,000km, I pulled the fronts (twin tube) apart for a revalve and the oil was still bright and clear.
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Post by Lucus »

The suspension shop has had a couple of goes at adjusting them to try and reduce some of the axle tramp it suffers occasionally (its trying to put 450hp and 800nm's down through a leaf rear end) dont get me wrong they are streets ahead of stock shocks but i expected them to assist in reducing the axle tramp without making the ride too harsh. Unfortunatly they seem to only be happy doing one or the other...

what are a set of koni's worth for a rangie?
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Post by KiwiBacon »

Lucus wrote: what are a set of koni's worth for a rangie?
I could pick up a set for $NZ500, I think that's with a decent discount though.
The gas/hydraulics ride better, but the twin tubes are revalvable. I've got twin tubes in the front (with a bloody heavy diesel) and gas/hydraulic in the back.

Sounds like you need some anti-tramp rods. There's only so much shocks can do in that situation.
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