HELP WITH PERTRONIX IGNITOR, electronic ignition,

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:21 pm

i've installed a pertronix ignitor and i'm having some drama's.

i have installed it as to instructions, (well i think i have)
red wire from ignitor to positive side if ballist resistor,
black wire from ignitor to negitive side of coil,
i'm thinking i've stuft something up,

(i have also installed new leads, plugs and coil),

the problem is
i have no spark coming from the coil, i'm thinking the ignitor is not sending the spark to the coil,

any ideas or help would be great, i'm at a loss at the moment,

cheers ray

Post by **simcoz** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:38 pm

Mine done this aswell,ended up being the small earth wire in th dizzy i left off.Put it back on and she fired up sweet then i reset the timing and haven't looked back.

Hope this helps

Coza

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:44 pm

thats what worries me, because mine still has that,
i took that wire off and cleaned under it with fine sand paper and still nothing,

im at a loss,

cheers ray

Post by **Mowie** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:59 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:i've installed a pertronix ignitor and i'm having some drama's.

i have installed it as to instructions, (well i think i have)
red wire from ignitor to positive side if ballist resistor,
black wire from ignitor to negitive side of coil,
i'm thinking i've stuft something up,

(i have also installed new leads, plugs and coil),

the problem is
i have no spark coming from the coil, i'm thinking the ignitor is not sending the spark to the coil,

any ideas or help would be great, i'm at a loss at the moment,

cheers ray

I had this at first when I installed mine.
Is it the Lobe sensor model?

You got to spacing of the sensor from the shaft just right. I don't know the exact measurment, it took me a few goes at it until it kicked over.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:01 pm

that has me stuft to, because there is a locating screw so that there is no real adjustment,

thanks

cheers ray

Post by **Mowie** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:32 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:that has me stuft to, because there is a locating screw so that there is no real adjustment,

thanks

cheers ray

I found that there was a mm or two of movement until the two screws were tight. It may be something else in your system thats causing the problem, in the end I found that to be the problem in mine.

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:16 pm

remove the whole condenser bit of the loom because u dont need it, there should be 2 condensers attached, make sure ur wires are connected and theres not somethin small causin ur sensor to not get power, u might have lost ur power to the coil or somethin like that, the lobe sensor needs 0.77mm clearance if i remeber right and u should have got a small plastic shim in ur kit to adjust that, make sure u use the screws provided and there should be plenty of movement 3-4 mm, i think u need to screw the pivot screw right down (that might be wrong i cant remember exactly) then adjust and lock it up if u have more than a mm of clearance it definitly wont tell the coil to fire

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:22 pm

thanks for that, i will check all that tomorrow, its to bloody cold now, just come inside then,

it is probarly something simple, like the gap, its defintly not timing, well not yet, i just rotated the dizzy while trying to start it, no different,

cheers ray

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:00 pm

yeh but said ur not gettin a spark, timing wont matter until it actually sparks, or do u not know the plugs arent actually sparkin ur just guessin from it not firing?

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:14 pm

na, it hasn't got spark at the coil, im just trying anything at the moment,

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:59 pm

if u got a multimeter, just check u have volts at the coil with the key ON. then check ur primary and secondry resistance of ur coil to make sure its still ok

Post by **lowexf** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:34 am

Which side of the ballast did you wire it up to?

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:27 pm

the side that doesn't run the earth to the motor,

Post by **rOd** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:33 pm

bucketofbolts wrote:the side that doesn't run the earth to the motor,

Just make sure its the side with the "two red wires" that you've connected it to.

Rod

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:43 pm

sorry, its the side that runs to the earth to the motor. and 2 reds wires,

Post by **rOd** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:58 pm

Maybe try putting your old coil back on see if that works.

Rod

PS:
This wont help.
I sold my petrol GQ last weekend and I so dont miss it!

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:07 pm

i just put a multi meter on the 2 wires coming from the ignitor, no ohms registed,

Post by **lowexf** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:26 pm

as said earlier by someone, do away with the condensor, and the original wiring fron the distributor to coil, and run a new wire. Then run the power wire to the battery voltage side of the ballast resistor.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:30 pm

lowexf wrote:as said earlier by someone, do away with the condensor, and the original wiring fron the distributor to coil, and run a new wire. Then run the power wire to the battery voltage side of the ballast resistor.

i have done away with teh original wiring and have run the red ignitor wire to the ballist resistor and black wire to to neg on coil,

is this right,

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:34 pm

yep as long as ur gettin 12v to the ignitor not the 8v or whatever is supplied from going thru the resistor, just check with ur multi the voltage at ur ignitor (red) power wireu should register somethin like 3 ohms at the coil but sounds like ur coil has packed it in

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:39 pm

i have put a new coil on, its showing 1.9ohms and so is the old one,

i have nothing when testing the ignitor, even when the engine is turning over,

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:04 pm

u havent blown a fuse while muckin around with it all, u should have power there when the key is at the ON position.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:10 pm

who knows,

what fuse should i be looking for, (in the drivers side kick panel) or somewhere else

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:18 pm

yeh the kick panel. just have a look there see if theres any gone that refer to engine control or igntion

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:24 pm

will check that and see what happens,

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:37 pm

just checked all fuses, they seem ok,

Post by **rOd** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:57 pm

Its begining to sound like the Pertronix unit that you have is stuffed.

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:07 pm

yeah, thats what im thinking,

i'm tried to ring them, but there 17 hours behind, and it was 12.19am (there) at 5.20pm here,
so i will ring them soon,

Post by **bucketofbolts** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:53 pm

just ran a wire from positive on battery to pos on ignitor and had the multi meter on the earth from ignitor to the body (earth) and still nothing,

im suspecting the ignitor is stuft,

ray

Post by **killer_garden_gnome** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:15 pm

isnt the black wire meant to goto ur coil -ve? i dont know that what u are doing will do anything becasue ur supplying power but the lobe sensor will be releasing said power to the coil, if ur lobes are spinning ur sensors not doing anything therefore u wont have a multimeter reading

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