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Post by DFK Racing »

bowtie landie wrote:
The Big Green Meany wrote:
DFK Racing wrote:I am guessing this would mean that there is no chance a winch challenge spec truck would be allowed to compete..

Never actually competed in Tough Tracks before... but it was something we were interested in....
Yeah ,I though you guys would have been fine.... Then Again I thought our truck was too.
Darren - stop being so bloody negative. For about the 4th. time I think that yours with full doors will be fine, with little or no further work required to comply. So why not wait until you see if yours complies before you pass any more negative comments. Let DFK Racing contact me to discuss their vehicle. Don't turn them away.

And as for bringing a swag - you don't think we are going to let you sleep through a meeting do you !!!

Peter K.

PS - If your vehicle is OK you're going to have to eat humble pie and put a post up saying how easy it is to comply - otherwise we'll have to do something nasty like unlock 1 FWH as you line up for a track !!

Ours is pretty standard and we do have full doors, no major mods, all running gear is standard, and we run 35 inch tyres..... It has only recently been reregistered with no problems from Qld Transport, excepting the fact that we have no windscreen after a roll over at the qld winch this past weekend, I think we should be ok....But I will defiantly be in contact to discuss this with you Peter....
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Post by Willy Hilux »

Just going back to dual transfers - Is there a mod plate for these or does it come under gearbox upgrades. I would expect if you guys have posted the rules you would have looked into what could be plated and what can't. This is most likely the only thing stopping me from competing. I can't see how duals would effect things on the road anyway.

Another thing. If people get things mod plated and bring the paper work to the comp. Can you guys say that the engineer waz on drugs and that can't be legal!!!!!, or do you have to take his word for it????

I spose it might come down to who has the money to pay the engineer to pass his or hers truck.
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Post by bowtie landie »

Willy Hilux wrote:Just going back to dual transfers - Is there a mod plate for these or does it come under gearbox upgrades. I would expect if you guys have posted the rules you would have looked into what could be plated and what can't. This is most likely the only thing stopping me from competing. I can't see how duals would effect things on the road anyway.

Another thing. If people get things mod plated and bring the paper work to the comp. Can you guys say that the engineer waz on drugs and that can't be legal!!!!!, or do you have to take his word for it????

I spose it might come down to who has the money to pay the engineer to pass his or hers truck.
You have PM

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Post by bowtie landie »

DFK Racing wrote:
bowtie landie wrote:
The Big Green Meany wrote:
DFK Racing wrote:
Ours is pretty standard and we do have full doors, no major mods, all running gear is standard, and we run 35 inch tyres..... It has only recently been reregistered with no problems from Qld Transport, excepting the fact that we have no windscreen after a roll over at the qld winch this past weekend, I think we should be ok....But I will defiantly be in contact to discuss this with you Peter....
Great - look forward to hearing from you.

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Post by bowtie landie »

OK

I have some updated information.

There are codes under the heavy vehicle code of practice to cover a number of the modifications we have been talking about lately. Many Certifying Engineers only have approval under the light vehicle code of practice and hence can not assess or approve certain mods that are performed on chassised vehicles.

The following can be approved (if engineered correctly of course)
- GU front diff into GQ.
- Additional gearboxes or transfercases.
- High Steer conversions.

PM me if you want the name of the Engineer who has this authority and knowledge. Wouldn't it be nice to know that your cross over steering conversion is legal and SAFE. It can be done and it shouldn't be up to the volunteers of a club to approve these mods.

We are looking at other mods as well to see what can be approved if engineered correctly.

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Post by BIG GQ »

bowtie landie wrote: There are codes under the heavy vehicle code of practice to cover a number of the modifications
How does that help any competitors Peter as I have just checked with 2 of our engineers here at work (Western Star Trucks Head Office) and the Heavy Vehicle NCOP is relevant to vehicles with a GVM greater than 4.5 tonnes which is non of our Patrols, Cruisers, Hilux's etc
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Post by bowtie landie »

BIG GQ wrote:
bowtie landie wrote: There are codes under the heavy vehicle code of practice to cover a number of the modifications
How does that help any competitors Peter as I have just checked with 2 of our engineers here at work (Western Star Trucks Head Office) and the Heavy Vehicle NCOP is relevant to vehicles with a GVM greater than 4.5 tonnes which is non of our Patrols, Cruisers, Hilux's etc
You need to dig further Linc.

Where there is a code under the light vehicle code of practice then this should be used for vehicles under 4.5 tonnes. The LV codes are primarily designed for monoque construction vehicles, so where a code does not exist in the LV Code of Practice, you may use a heavy vehicle code for a chassised vehicle.

This includes Patrols, Cruisers, Hiluxes etc.

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Post by BIG GQ »

Cool. Have you been able to get ANY actual work done this week mate?
Cheers
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Post by bowtie landie »

BIG GQ wrote:Cool. Have you been able to get ANY actual work done this week mate?
Yeah mate - just less sleep
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Post by HeathGQ »

bowtie landie wrote:
BIG GQ wrote:
bowtie landie wrote: There are codes under the heavy vehicle code of practice to cover a number of the modifications
How does that help any competitors Peter as I have just checked with 2 of our engineers here at work (Western Star Trucks Head Office) and the Heavy Vehicle NCOP is relevant to vehicles with a GVM greater than 4.5 tonnes which is non of our Patrols, Cruisers, Hilux's etc
You need to dig further Linc.

Where there is a code under the light vehicle code of practice then this should be used for vehicles under 4.5 tonnes. The LV codes are primarily designed for monoque construction vehicles, so where a code does not exist in the LV Code of Practice, you may use a heavy vehicle code for a chassised vehicle.

This includes Patrols, Cruisers, Hiluxes etc.

Peter K.
Yeah its says use heavy vehicle code for vehicles with a seperate chassis... So Linc, have a chat to your engineer mates!!!
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Post by andy & di »

bowtie landie wrote:
BIG GQ wrote:Cool. Have you been able to get ANY actual work done this week mate?
Yeah mate - just less sleep
Peter I dont envey your situation at present, lets just hope that everyone gets the message sooner rather than later.
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Post by The Big Green Meany »

Yeah ,I though you guys would have been fine.... Then Again I thought our truck was too.[/quote]

Darren - stop being so bloody negative. For about the 4th. time I think that yours with full doors will be fine, with little or no further work required to comply. So why not wait until you see if yours complies before you pass any more negative comments. Let DFK Racing contact me to discuss their vehicle. Don't turn them away.

And as for bringing a swag - you don't think we are going to let you sleep through a meeting do you !!!

Peter K.

PS - If your vehicle is OK you're going to have to eat humble pie and put a post up saying how easy it is to comply - otherwise we'll have to do something nasty like unlock 1 FWH as you line up for a track !![/quote]
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Post by andy & di »

Darren, whats with your post, did you copy and paste and forget to put your comment up????
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Post by The Big Green Meany »

bowtie landie wrote:
The Big Green Meany wrote:
DFK Racing wrote:I am guessing this would mean that there is no chance a winch challenge spec truck would be allowed to compete..

Never actually competed in Tough Tracks before... but it was something we were interested in....
Yeah ,I though you guys would have been fine.... Then Again I thought our truck was too.
Darren - stop being so bloody negative. For about the 4th. time I think that yours with full doors will be fine, with little or no further work required to comply. So why not wait until you see if yours complies before you pass any more negative comments. Let DFK Racing contact me to discuss their vehicle. Don't turn them away.

And as for bringing a swag - you don't think we are going to let you sleep through a meeting do you !!!

Peter K.

PS - If your vehicle is OK you're going to have to eat humble pie and put a post up saying how easy it is to comply - otherwise we'll have to do something nasty like unlock 1 FWH as you line up for a track !!

Not funny with the Hubs...It happened last weekend without us knowing :bad-words:


As for turning them away..I dont think I even implied that ,The DFK boys know me......

Swag, Not intending to sleep during it, Just that it could be a lonng night...

I admit I am being a bit Negative.. But will talk to you tonight about that, I like others am/will be p***ed with rule chnages with 1 round to go after spending good money in the last 2 weeks doing mods that would have complied before the rule changes... Thats it... Ill suck it up like everyone else and will show up in 4/5 wekks time ready to go again :D
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Post by blu125 »

'A GQ coil sprung vehicle had front & rear track of 1530mm and 1535mm respectively.

The 3L DX GU Wagon had 1555 and 1575mm track respectively.

source:-
Genuine Nissan Service Manual GQ
and Nissan Australia internet site GU Patrols'

Don't forget that the OE GQ & GU wheels have different offsets to minimise track change.
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Post by BIG GQ »

blu125 wrote: Don't forget that the OE GQ & GU wheels have different offsets to minimise track change.
Hence why I asked the below Chris and got no answer
BIG GQ wrote: OK so say you need to blue plate your GU diff into GQ and it can be legally done. What is the deal then when we put or wider and/or flipped rims on and it takes us over the 50mm threshold ???? Yes I am aware that the rules state wheel options are unlimited but if I was to have a GU diff in a GQ (D.O.T Plated - and carrying my precious paper certificate to go with) then put 10" wide rims on or flipped rims, etc what is the point in having spent my coin getting the diff plated as I've just gone over the 50mm track width alteration.
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Post by The Big Green Meany »

BIG GQ wrote:
blu125 wrote: Don't forget that the OE GQ & GU wheels have different offsets to minimise track change.
Hence why I asked the below Chris and got no answer
BIG GQ wrote: OK so say you need to blue plate your GU diff into GQ and it can be legally done. What is the deal then when we put or wider and/or flipped rims on and it takes us over the 50mm threshold ???? Yes I am aware that the rules state wheel options are unlimited but if I was to have a GU diff in a GQ (D.O.T Plated - and carrying my precious paper certificate to go with) then put 10" wide rims on or flipped rims, etc what is the point in having spent my coin getting the diff plated as I've just gone over the 50mm track width alteration.

Hey link...Rims and tyres are free except for max height of the tyre..
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Post by basketcase »

bowtie landie wrote:OK

I have some updated information.

There are codes under the heavy vehicle code of practice to cover a number of the modifications we have been talking about lately. Many Certifying Engineers only have approval under the light vehicle code of practice and hence can not assess or approve certain mods that are performed on chassised vehicles.

The following can be approved (if engineered correctly of course)
- GU front diff into GQ.
- Additional gearboxes or transfercases.
- High Steer conversions.

PM me if you want the name of the Engineer who has this authority and knowledge. Wouldn't it be nice to know that your cross over steering conversion is legal and SAFE. It can be done and it shouldn't be up to the volunteers of a club to approve these mods.

We are looking at other mods as well to see what can be approved if engineered correctly.

Peter K.
When I had my hilux I was assured by a well know engineer in the logan club that dual transfers are legal as long as you do not change the original mounting. So normal dual case x members on hilux's that use the original chassis and transfer mounts, like what bubs and superior engineering make are fine.
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Post by bowtie landie »

On Sunday 29th July, we will be conducting vehicle scrutineering at Redlands 4WD, 30 Steel St. Capalaba for anyone wanting to get their vehicles checked proir to Round 3.

Start time - 9am
Finish time - ???

we should have a sausage sizzle & cold drinks on the day.

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Post by Pegboy2000 »

heh, i should bring mine down to see how much it fails by :twisted: :roll: :finger:
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Post by Rolly »

what do you drive ?
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Post by 80lsy gq »

Rolly wrote:what do you drive ?
a poofy vitara with drinking straws all over it
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Post by Rolly »

yeah ok now i know which one .
not a hope in hell of getting that vitara plated .
i think there could be a need for an outlaw class dave ;)
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Post by Willy Hilux »

Has anyone been able to get a hold of Phil Harris for Engineering there truck?? Or does anybody else know of someone that does 4x4's?? Time is running out. :cry:
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Post by bowtie landie »

Willy Hilux wrote:Has anyone been able to get a hold of Phil Harris for Engineering there truck?? Or does anybody else know of someone that does 4x4's?? Time is running out. :cry:
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Post by andy & di »

Willy Hilux wrote:Has anyone been able to get a hold of Phil Harris for Engineering there truck?? Or does anybody else know of someone that does 4x4's?? Time is running out. :cry:
Cant the boyz at Superio help out??
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Post by The Big Green Meany »

Willy Hilux wrote:Has anyone been able to get a hold of Phil Harris for Engineering there truck?? Or does anybody else know of someone that does 4x4's?? Time is running out. :cry:
Im hearing you, Phil was going to call in here last week to do something for me,..I still have not seen him, Starting to get over the whole thing :cry:
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Post by Willy Hilux »

I'm over it :bad-words: . Maybelline won't be going in the next round. :cry: Might have to drive a NISSAN :bad-words: in this last round to finish off the year.

Bring on another class above Challenge Class 4 next year.
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Post by MissGU »

Aaron & I are also out ..
1 i cant get anyone to do my diff i time &
2 Aaron has started to pull the car appart for new barwork.

Oh well
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Post by sloshy »

I'm out, can't get crossover engineered due to suspension lift, I rang everybody on the DOT list and got the phone bill to prove it, so if any hilux competes its bull$h/t!!

Still after my coin back so who can I contact in tough tracks to get it back?
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