W.E.Rock Eastern Creek - 11th/12th August - Round 2

Post by **demodave#24** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:39 pm

any one know about or interested in the MUD DRAGS at cessnock showgrounds next weekend?

50mtrs of mud side by side drag racing.
bike v bike
quad v quad
buggy v buggy
4wd v 4wd etc

search forum 4 CESSNOCK MUD DRAGS 4 more info

Post by **redzook** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:14 pm

demodave remove your garbage from here this is not the place

Post by **redzook** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:24 pm

what can i say but wow what an absolutely awesome weekend
thank you for every one that had a part in organizing and running this event.

the courses were way more fun and exciting then i thought they were going to be.

cant wait for the next round

Tim

Post by **zuk33** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:24 am

well what a awesome weekend we had.
didnt start very well on friday but thanx 2 all the people
that helped us out we had a ball after that.

a very big thanks 2 everyone

Post by **ubeetn** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:33 am

A big thanks to all who helped Shane and Dave from team Rocstar over the weekend as it was our maiden event.

Sam and his crew put on a great weekend.

Hopefully with a few mods, some $$$ and a bit more driving time we will be a bit more competitive next time.

:):)

Post by **MrsForby** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:33 am

I was pretty disppointed with Saturday, so didn't other going on sunday.

I few people I spoke to had the same view.

Unless you were right down next to the fence, you couldn't see anything, and it certainly was nto too impressive from a distance.

Overall... prefer the normal setup.

my2c.

Post by **poo_trol** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:11 am

Something need to be done if more events are to be held at the creek
location changed, fence moved/ lowered,

from the spectators view absolute rubbish viewing. everyone that I spoke to thought the same
trying to take kids into the pits to see there favorite cars was non existant, hoppy with the crutch would let some people in and not others this is a bit un fair( I know why from a lialbility point)
but the next event at QLD and NSW you will be able to get up a lot closer to the action

Any way For Sam and The other organisers of werock congrats to a great setup ou the first man made event in Aust.
You guys can only make this man made event Huge from here

Post by **`maddog** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:17 am

few pics

Rest are up on the gallery site

Post by **alexcliffo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:19 am

Went saturday and wasnt too impressed either, however dragged myself out there on sun and it was alot better. Harder lines, and the shootout involved both containors on the one course.

the fact that spectators were seperated from the competitor area and couldnt have a close up stickybeak at the buggys peeved me. This is not usually the case with We rock events and something that (usually) seperated this from other motorsports for me. Obviously as the sport grows, logistically this is unavoidable.

We all talk about the sport heading in the direction of man made courses proximal to city centres, but a competitive season should involve both this and the usual camping setup. Just the point of view of a mere spectator.

Having said that, on a months organising and limited budget. Sam et. al. did a great job with what they had.

More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high, and a food stand where the egg and bacon roles arnt 5 bucks and 3 days old, and youve got urself a WINNER.

Post by **`maddog** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:40 am

alexcliffo wrote:
More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high.

Why do people want to see things 2 containers high? That's over 20ft for someone to fall down.. from a driver's point of view.. that sux

Even a 10ft high roll (1 container) can be pretty hard.. See Pete's roll yesterday afternoon.

Post by **alexcliffo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:20 am

`maddog wrote:
alexcliffo wrote:
More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high.
Why do people want to see things 2 containers high? That's over 20ft for someone to fall down.. from a driver's point of view.. that sux

Even a 10ft high roll (1 container) can be pretty hard.. See Pete's roll yesterday afternoon.

Because thay do. See the climbs in US rock crawling. Sure, it would be silly if all courses were massive climbs and no technical stuff, but as a shootout bonus line it would be what separates the top runners.

I understand that from a drivers point of view the technical lines are challenging and fun (and safer), and a spectator appreciates that too if they know what its all about.

Post by **napsta** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:22 am

it was an awesome weekend. as a driver who had 3 rolls for the weekend, i would not be keen to see 2 containers high!!! ouch!

now just trying to work out funds to get up to the queensland round.
Ben

Post by **Tuff Events** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:23 am

`maddog wrote:
alexcliffo wrote:
More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high.
Why do people want to see things 2 containers high? That's over 20ft for someone to fall down.. from a driver's point of view.. that sux

Even a 10ft high roll (1 container) can be pretty hard.. See Pete's roll yesterday afternoon.

Ur soft, Bring on two 40ft containers, side by side on end. Shaped into a mountainous course..... thats 40ft of height....

If you don't like it, take a cone to make it easier....
This would be cool.......

Post by **napsta** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:48 am

Post by **Tulip** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 10:56 am

`maddog wrote: Pics are going up right now here http://maddog.zook.org/v/werock-2007-ro ... terncreek/

They'll take a couple of hours to upload.. Thanks to Tulip for shooting all weekend for us

always a pleasure

great weekend, im glad i wasnt stuck on the other side of that fence however. although this allowed me pretty much free reign from the competitor side without having to duck and dive between people

the only other 2 things that i want to contribute is there should have been scouts or rotary club or someone out there cooking a bbq. the food from that van wasnt all that great.

and there needed to be more shade, if you expect families to come out and stay all day, it was just to hot and this was only august. world finals in january will be a killer.

Post by **alexcliffo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:10 am

TEAM OPW wrote:
`maddog wrote:
alexcliffo wrote:
More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high.
Why do people want to see things 2 containers high? That's over 20ft for someone to fall down.. from a driver's point of view.. that sux

Even a 10ft high roll (1 container) can be pretty hard.. See Pete's roll yesterday afternoon.
Ur soft, Bring on two 40ft containers, side by side on end. Shaped into a mountainous course..... thats 40ft of height....
If you don't like it, take a cone to make it easier....
This would be cool.......

THats why i go to see him

Dont get a big head now...

Post by **Tuff Events** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:12 am

Ok... how bout something like this.....

Dodgy drawing but, my laptop is not with me... so now CAD...

Leave the extra 20ft of the 40ft facing the crowd or have 10ft each way...

Post by **alexcliffo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:13 am

Tulip wrote: world finals in january will be a killer.

So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

Post by **bluey99** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:46 am

So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

No more WE ROCK at Milbrodale.
A Problem with Tuff Truck I think
Also heard season finals my be at Grafton Showgrounds with a day and night
event.

Post by **alexcliffo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:51 am

bluey99 wrote:So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

No more WE ROCK at Milbrodale.
A Problem with Tuff Truck I think
.

WTF?

Post by **napsta** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:46 pm

good ideas pete. permanent course in sydney maybe??? you must have room in one of your sheds?

Post by **sniper** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:57 pm

like your way of thinking there pete

That fence did suck arse and also that we couldnt get a close loko at the buggies.

And im sure if they had sum W.E.ROCK t-shirts and hats and stuff they would of sold heaps. I heard alot of people asking if there were any t-shirts to buy.

But still not a bad day and good weather to match it. Thanks everyone who organised and competed for a great day

Post by **MrsForby** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:10 pm

alexcliffo wrote:
bluey99 wrote:So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

No more WE ROCK at Milbrodale.
A Problem with Tuff Truck I think
.
WTF?

Two completely different comps!

Anyone able to shed some light on this???

Post by **Hekta** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:19 pm

alexcliffo wrote: More of an ampitheatre set up for spectating, couses set 2 containors high, and a food stand where the egg and bacon roles arnt 5 bucks and 3 days old, and youve got urself a WINNER.

x2.
There is a lot of whinging about the setup. I can see that it can only get better. This was the first time they've done the manmade stuff without much time to prepare. Eastern Ck made them put up the big fence aswell.
It'll get better from here on in. Great effort to all involved!

bluey99 wrote:So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

No more WE ROCK at Milbrodale.
A Problem with Tuff Truck I think
Also heard season finals my be at Grafton Showgrounds with a day and night
event.

Sam announced at the Presentation yesterday that the first Milbrodale round has been moved to Grafton and the world finals will be back at the Creek.
I have heard there were issues with it being the Tuff Truck site.

Post by **`maddog** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:20 pm

MissForby wrote:
alexcliffo wrote:
bluey99 wrote:So they're not being held at Milbrodale??

No more WE ROCK at Milbrodale.
A Problem with Tuff Truck I think
.
WTF?
Two completely different comps!

Anyone able to shed some light on this???

Yeah Aus finals will be at Grafton speedway, man made course again. World finals will be back at Eastern Creek. Good moves in my opinion, as long as a compromise can be found where spectators can be made happy.

and yes Pete I'm soft

Post by **Hekta** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:23 pm

MissForby wrote:
Two completely different comps!

Anyone able to shed some light on this???

I don't know that it's anyone's place to comment on this apart from the organisers. Anything else would be speculation and here say.

Post by **zuk33** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:32 pm

great pics maddog

Post by **phil93surf** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:05 pm

Hekta wrote:Eastern Ck made them put up the big fence aswell.

That fence has always been there it used to be a storage yard.
If you where allowed in the pit area it would have been alot better.
Was a good day (first event like this for me) just the fence sucked for taking pics.
Would be good to see a city one like the city rally a few years ago.

Post by **hypo** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:59 pm

Had a great weekend

From a competitors point of view, it was good to be able to compete without the fear of running the crowd over, if we got a bit off line and had to throttle out of it there was no cnance of us ending up in a spectators lap.

Also recoveries were made 150% easier and safer by not having to move the crowd to do a recovery, most times the other competitors just jumped in and rolled the buggys back over.

I agree about the fence being a pain in the ass but maybe next time some sort of scaffolding can be erected to form a grandstand type arrangement, not sure if this would be cost effective but maybe an option..

But overall the outcome of the weekend for me was 100% better than i was expecting for the first man made coarse competition, well done Sam -(stranger rover), Dave -(80lsy), Dannie -(Old_Man_Crawler)(sorry if i didn't mention u, these are the names of the people that popped into my mind just now), and all others involved in setting up organising and running the event

p.s did i mention team underdog came second in unlimiteds

Post by **FireTruck** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:10 pm

I can confirm that the unlimited results were:

1. Shane & Zach (FireBug) (~-15pts)
2. Tim (~+9)
3. Pete (OPW) (~+17)
4. Adrian (~+18)
5. Roger (~+?)

At the end of day 1 Tim was in front with Adrian 1 point back, Jamie Way about 10 points back, and Roger and us about 11 points back. Lots more rolls and cones on day 2 rearranged the field a bit.

Had a great weekend... wasn't sure what to expect for the man made course, and I have to say that it was alot better than expected. Once you put some cones in some funky spots things get real interesting...

I thought the courses on Sat were a tad easy, but Sunday was spot on.

We drove the first 2 courses on Sat without steering - the steer pump died on the start line of course 1! Used the break between the 2nd and 3rd courses to swap the pump out and we were back in action. Big thanks to Sean from ABT for pulling the pump out of his Jeep (The FireTruck) for us to use, and thanks to Adrian for the bolts we needed to get the job done.

The FireBug worked great - have to thank Pip at Just Customs as always for the tweaks and repairs on the buggy to keep her tip top. And the others who always help us out, including ABT, Valvoline, Cummins, Staun, and Maxxis.

No rolls for us all weekend, but most people did go over I think.

Congrats to Sam and the entire WE Rock crew! Great start to man-made events in Aus... bring on the bigger courses!

I do agree that the view for the spectators was not great, but stick with it guys as it will only get better! Maybe next time if there needs to be a fence we could somehow make the 'pits' run along side the fence somewhere so everyone can get a closer view of the buggies.

S.

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