Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Mogrover's RTI

General Tech Talk

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

Post Reply
Posts: 215
Joined: Sat Jun 21, 2003 12:59 am
Location: Launceston

Mogrover's RTI

Post by mtb4x4mad »

Just wondering what RTI figure mogrover has achieved? I don't expect it to be up there with the hydraulics and hence, it will be interesting to see how useless the RTI is, as I'm assuming that (from the other thread) mogrover is at least as capable as the other hydraulically suspended rigs, yet achieves only a fraction of their RTI figure.
Posts: 16934
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 6:57 pm

Post by RUFF »

Its never realy been ramped. We have a 20* ramp at work but i think we only drove it up that once to make sure the front pinion didnt hit the sump on full compression.

Personaly i dont beleive RTI means anything when it comes to capabilities.
Posts: 3443
Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:50 pm
Location: Currently On the Road !!

Post by Dozoor »

RUFF wrote:Its never realy been ramped. We have a 20* ramp at work but i think we only drove it up that once to make sure the front pinion didnt hit the sump on full compression.

Personaly i dont beleive RTI means anything when it comes to capabilities.


Here here! :D
I agree with Ruff on that one, ;)
JK
Posts: 3229
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:00 am

Post by JK »

I third the motion!

A well designed and balanced rig will outdrive a flexy rig any day of the weeK!
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:31 pm

Post by Strange Rover »

It does flex fairly well. Nothing major but probably better than most. Its got 14in travel shocks (all mounted fairly vertical) on each corner and it can max them all out when it articulates.

The thing with flex, I believe, is that you should try to have as little as you can get away with and not as much as you can get. I see alot of rigs that just have so much flex just for the sake of it and they suffer badly from it in terms of ride height or stability.

The beauty of the hydraulic systems that Antunac and Dobbin run it that when they dont touch the hydraulics they dont have massive amounts of flex and so they dont suffer the same problems that lots of other rigs have that try to match them on the ramp. I think that Dobbin also has 14in vertical travel at each corner and I now believe that Antunac is bringing his back to only 10in vertical travel at each corner without the hydraulics. So both these rigs have limited controlled flex without the hydraulics.

Ill see if I can measure what it get on the ramp tomorrow but I dont think it will get much more than 1000 on a 20 degree.

Sam
User avatar
POS
Posts: 4318
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:52 pm
Location: Perth

Post by POS »

Strange Rover wrote:It does flex fairly well. Nothing major but probably better than most. Its got 14in travel shocks (all mounted fairly vertical) on each corner and it can max them all out when it articulates.

The thing with flex, I believe, is that you should try to have as little as you can get away with and not as much as you can get. I see alot of rigs that just have so much flex just for the sake of it and they suffer badly from it in terms of ride height or stability.

The beauty of the hydraulic systems that Antunac and Dobbin run it that when they dont touch the hydraulics they dont have massive amounts of flex and so they dont suffer the same problems that lots of other rigs have that try to match them on the ramp. I think that Dobbin also has 14in vertical travel at each corner and I now believe that Antunac is bringing his back to only 10in vertical travel at each corner without the hydraulics. So both these rigs have limited controlled flex without the hydraulics.

Ill see if I can measure what it get on the ramp tomorrow but I dont think it will get much more than 1000 on a 20 degree.

Sam


Ramp QUEEN!!!! :lol: :lol:

I agree, yes you need SOME flex (enoungh to keep the RIG stable) but to much and it will just be to SLOPPY, also i havn't yet seen a REALLY FLEXY rig that has been able to get the POWER to the groung SMOOTHLY.
Posts: 3523
Joined: Sun May 18, 2003 8:42 pm
Location: Somewhere they can't reach me, shoot me or electrocute me...

Post by Area54 »

Strange Rover wrote:
The thing with flex, I believe, is that you should try to have as little as you can get away with and not as much as you can get.
Sam


My thoughts exactly.
Built, not bought.
Posts: 1813
Joined: Sun Oct 20, 2002 3:31 pm

Post by Strange Rover »

Measured it and it gets 1050 on a 20 degree going forwards so it is actually less than I imagined. (I think this works out to 720 on the 30 degree they use in tuff truck)

Sam
Posts: 864
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2003 1:14 am
Location: Between Sugarloaf and the Watagans :)

Post by SAWZALL »

Wow that isn't a lot is it. Hmmm goes to show huh....
Gone drag racing......
Posts: 3924
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 10:35 pm
Location: Newcastle NSW

Post by hypo »

yeah sorta agree with u sam and troy, my truck has nice front end flex on the trail but on the ramp it does shit forwards or backwards and i think that the flex i have is good in the aspect that it doesnt feel floppy 2 drive like it used to
:finger: HYPOFAB :finger:

Thanks to:

Polyperformance
Yuri 4x4
Longfield
Posts: 2296
Joined: Thu Oct 24, 2002 4:30 pm

Post by OVERKILL ENG »

I think people put to much emphsasis on there RTI .Most rigs with huge RTI are unstable I think a good balance between front and rear is way more important there aren't many ramps oput in the bush or on that side slope.
SAM
OVERKILL ENGINEERING
www.overkill4x4.com
God of Magnificant Ideas!
Posts: 6774
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:22 am
Location: Balls Deep

Post by V8Patrol »

never seen a ramp in the bush, so why bother ramping it before ya head out ? :D

RTI = waste of time .... balance,clearence,grip,& control wins every time !
[color=blue][size=150][b]And your cry-baby, whinyassed opinion would be.....? [/b][/size][/color]
Posts: 510
Joined: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:42 pm
Location: melbourne

Post by modman »

i find the ramp usefull to check on bind with bushes, shocks, uni's and the like. even to check tyres hitting guards, arms and flares. the ramp is more stable then using a highlift and easier then digging holes. i know it is only a static measurement and does not allow for any inertia (compression or extension)
for me it is a tool and not the gauge.

modman.
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests