best motor to putting it into a sierra

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:11 pm

i want to know what is the best best motor to putting it into a sierra(to go on the road)

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:14 pm

Matt,

What are you going to be doing with this sierra? This will affect what motor you would want.

i.e. if it is for driving just on road, all offroad, rocks, quarter miles, commuting etc...

All of these would affect what you would want to put in your sierra.

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:15 pm

How modded is the siera??

Whats Your Budget??

is the vehicle for purely on-road??

Need to be more specific, maybe state what you want the vehicle to do so peeps can try and fit and engine to your requirements.

(For me 12a turbo and auto)

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:16 pm

greg wrote:Matt,

What are you going to be doing with this sierra? This will affect what motor you would want.

i.e. if it is for driving just on road, all offroad, rocks, quarter miles, commuting etc...

All of these would affect what you would want to put in your sierra.

Fastest fingers in the South

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:24 pm

bigsteve wrote:(For me 12a turbo and auto)

For a non-car nerd like me Big Stover, what is a 12a turbo?

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:26 pm

greg wrote:
bigsteve wrote:(For me 12a turbo and auto)

For a non-car nerd like me Big Stover, what is a 12a turbo?

Its a rotary engine that came out in the JB cosmo (Jap 929 coupe I think)

I lived & breathed rotaries before heading offroad, that engine would be a nice mix for me.

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:34 pm

it is a 1985 Sierra LWB
it has
OME 2" lifted suspension
3" body lift
iv got $3000 to spend on it
a bit of on and off road

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:36 pm

bigsteve wrote:Its a rotary engine that came out in the JB cosmo (Jap 929 coupe I think)

I lived & breathed rotaries before heading offroad, that engine would be a nice mix for me.

Sorry, stupid q, would that be fuel injected? or would it still have the same issues on side angles that carbies do?

p.s. love the sig

edit: fixed the quotes

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:36 pm

mattklippert wrote:it is a 1985 Sierra LWB
it has
OME 2" lifted suspension
3" body lift
iv got $3000 to spend on it
a bit of on and off road

Stick a standard 1.3 in and spend the rest on a hopper and lockers

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:38 pm

greg wrote:
bigsteve wrote:Its a rotary engine that came out in the JB cosmo (Jap 929 coupe I think)

I lived & breathed rotaries before heading offroad, that engine would be a nice mix for me.

Sorry, stupid q, would that be fuel injected? or would it still have the same issues on side angles that carbies do?

p.s. love the sig

edit: fixed the quotes

No side angle worries, its injected, the pic is just of a rotary engine, not the 12a turbo though

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:41 pm

bigsteve wrote:
mattklippert wrote:it is a 1985 Sierra LWB
it has
OME 2" lifted suspension
3" body lift
iv got $3000 to spend on it
a bit of on and off road

Stick a standard 1.3 in and spend the rest on a hopper and lockers

Sorry matt, but if that 3000 is fixed and solid, i don't think you will be able to get a lot of good options in there. Though a few people here will suggest that there are some good Toyota options available - but i don't know much about those.

I would suggest that you check out going for something like a Vitara 1.6L EFI - but the motor along will cost up to 2,500 (with loom and computer), so you would easily exceed your 3K budget once you try to install it.

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:41 pm

it ahs lockers and
what is the price of the 1.3l
what is price of a hopper
(IM IN N.S.W)

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:45 pm

mattklippert wrote:it ahs lockers and
what is the price of the 1.3l
what is price of a hopper
(IM IN N.S.W)

Hoppers start at about 850 plus installation.

check out www.bigballsoffroad.com or www.rockhopper.com.au

Not sure about pricing of a 1.3, but a fellow down here in melbourne is trying to sell one... cruise to here:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=8761

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:47 pm

greg wrote:
mattklippert wrote:it ahs lockers and
what is the price of the 1.3l
what is price of a hopper
(IM IN N.S.W)

Hoppers start at about 850 plus installation.

check out www.bigballsoffroad.com or www.rockhopper.com.au

Not sure about pricing of a 1.3, but a fellow down here in melbourne is trying to sell one... cruise to here:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=8761

Sir link-a-lot

Post by **N*A*M** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:50 pm

so you're buying blackzook's longie?

i'd go with what bigsteve said - g13a with rockhoppers

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:52 pm

N*A*M wrote:so you're buying blackzook's longie?

i'd go with what bigsteve said - g13a with rockhoppers

I reckon you could do a 1.3 + a s1 for 2k leaving 1k for a new set of shoes.

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:53 pm

bigsteve wrote:Sir link-a-lot

"I like big rocks and i cann't lie"

oh man - that was a new low... :vomit:

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:55 pm

SUZUKI, VITARA UP FOR AUCTION ON THE 11 NOVEMBER
1.6L PETROL, 5SPD MANUAL
IT WILL SELL FOR $1500-$2500

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:02 pm

greg wrote:
bigsteve wrote:Sir link-a-lot

"I like big rocks and i cann't lie"

oh man - that was a new low... :vomit:

doh! "ruts" would be fit better than "rocks"

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:04 pm

greg wrote:
bigsteve wrote:Sir link-a-lot

"I like big rocks and i cann't lie"

oh man - that was a new low... :vomit:

www.greghasanamazingabilitytoanswerever ... hme.com.au

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:04 pm

mattklippert wrote:SUZUKI, VITARA UP FOR AUCTION ON THE 11 NOVEMBER
1.6L PETROL, 5SPD MANUAL
IT WILL SELL FOR $1500-$2500

That is very cheap, and assuming that the engine is in good nick it could be a great start, but again, you are going to have a heap of work to do and i just don't see 3K in totoal being even close to achievable - especially if you are also planning on putting a hopper in there.

Post by **N*A*M** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:04 pm

:puke:

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:13 pm

IV GOT $3000 TO START WITH THE HOPPER WILL GO IN IT WHEN IT CAN

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:16 pm

mattklippert wrote:IV GOT $3000 TO START WITH THE HOPPER WILL GO IN IT WHEN IT CAN

The 1600 will certainly push it along on road, what size tyres is it sittin on??

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:23 pm

STOCK WHEEL FOR KNOW BUT I WANT TO PUT BIGGER WHEELS ON IT LATER

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:25 pm

mattklippert wrote:STOCK WHEEL FOR KNOW BUT I WANT TO PUT BIGGER WHEELS ON IT LATER

If its only pushin stockies then to the 1.6 convert I think, that way you lay the basis to mod from. IMO

P.S. Take your caps lock off

Post by **mattklippert** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:28 pm

how much work there to put the 1.6l in the sierra

Post by **bigsteve** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:31 pm

mattklippert wrote:how much work there to put the 1.6l in the sierra

there couldn't be a hellova lot. There are a few members her that I know of running Vit 1.6's I'm sure they will chip in.

Post by **christover1** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:33 pm

easy to fit 1.6 into a 1.3 zook, but heaps of work/money to fit to a 1.0 zook

Post by **greg** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:33 pm

mattklippert wrote:how much work there to put the 1.6l in the sierra

I thinking that it is efi, in which case the answer would be:

1. put the engine in (may require custom engine mounts
2. adapt the motor to the sierra gear box (only works if you have a 1.3, otherwise you need a 1.3 sierra gbox, or need to think about moving the stock x-fer case back further and hooking it up with twin cases :cool:

)
3. put the computer somewhere
4. wiring - have to hook up the computer and engine to the existing sierra loom. (this includes some fancy dash board wiring too)
5. fuel tank - you'll need to get the EFI fuel tank out of the vitara and mount it somewhere. also need to replace your fuel lines with high pressure in areas.
6. if your sierra doesn't have a body lift, it may need some work to make the engine fit under your bonnet
7. i think there is some work to do to the sump to make sure it clears the diff at full compression - but i'm not 100% sure about that.

Well there's a start at least... i'm sure others can tell you more.

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