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after a air compressor

Post by vicelore »

Hey guys

well as i wrote above. im after a solution for puttin air back in the tyres. im looking to spend up to around $300 or somthing like that. nothing over $500 im after decent quality. im failry keen on it being mounted with a (some) permanant hose to maybey the back bumper ?? with a attachment hose. tho i may go protable if thats whats recomended.

ideas ??

Cheers


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i thaught i should add ill be buying air lockers F&R probaly with in the next 6 months . should i just purchase for this aswell and maybey spend a little extra and get a ARB compressor can a locker air comp do 2 lockers and tyers ? ?

thanks again.
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Post by bigcam »

the bigger new arb compressor should do what you are asking, but there will now be about 15 different posts from 15 people reccomending 15 different compressors, so be prapared to be not really helped at all :)

in the end, do your own research and ask for peoples experiences and you will have to make the call in the end.

i personally bought the arb one, its good on paper, comes with a nice loom, everything just plugs in for lockers etc, and its neat and tidy, as for reliability.. time will tell.

but so far so good..

and i have found ARB's support to be good (up until now but thats another story, their store level guiys are sensational, their head office guys.. hmm leave a bit to be desired.)
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Post by Gwagensteve »

For lockers, use the small ARB comrpessor. Cheap, a no brainer to install and wire, and dedicated for the job so you have some redundancy.

For tyres, really, an endless air type setup is the only way.

Endless Air don't do a dedicated setup for a Sierra, but I have set one up on Greg's car, and I am setting up a cappuccino A/C compressor (same s lancer mirage) with an oiler and filter/trap on mine.

Once you have had an engine driven compressor, you would never, ever, go back to electric.

Steve.
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Post by vicelore »

Hey guys

thanks for the responses.

Steve whats the process for one of the endless air systems. on there site they look like they run off a pully, custom ? do they need a tank ? price range ? how much would piping to a outlet and fittings cost ?

sorry for all the noob Questions. but i coudnt really find any info about these . except what iv read on there site.
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Post by vicelore »

just haveing a look through oozuks members build up. i take it you mean something along those lines. looks fairly complex..
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Post by Gwagensteve »

The compressors are around the $400 mark (? could be wrong) an endless air compressor doesn't run oil so doesn't need the oiler/dryer that an actual A/C compressor needs.

Brackets will be custom, and a double pulley (A/C) will be required, but if you found a wrecked sierr with A/C those parts could be used, or you could set up the whole sierra A/C with an oiler and dryer.

They need a pressure switch and relay, (air locker pressure switch is fine)

No tank is required.

They run about 9cfm (or the same as a amall workshop compressor) at 3000 rpm.

thats 4.5 times faster than the new ARB big tyre inflation compressor.

Steve.
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Post by Jeeps »

ARB fitted one of those 'new' arb compressors to the jeep this week. I timed it yesterday and to get my 31" MTR from 14 psi to 34 psi took 2.12 minutes.
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Post by Tapage »

My advice come in the same line of Gwagensteve so .. one ARB or watever you want locker compresor ..

You want in air lockers get the better reliability, so keep the compresor locker safe and do a simple not much big job .. sure to be lockers.

In the other way to have on board air .. it's my suggestion, Power tank ? to to deal with compresors or electrics .. just a tank and done .. when you need you can use, if not .. keep it.

At the end maybe yoy gonna pay more for each fill .. up to you.
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Post by vicelore »

Gwagensteve wrote:The compressors are around the $400 mark (? could be wrong) an endless air compressor doesn't run oil so doesn't need the oiler/dryer that an actual A/C compressor needs.

Brackets will be custom, and a double pulley (A/C) will be required, but if you found a wrecked sierr with A/C those parts could be used, or you could set up the whole sierra A/C with an oiler and dryer.

They need a pressure switch and relay, (air locker pressure switch is fine)

No tank is required.

They run about 9cfm (or the same as a amall workshop compressor) at 3000 rpm.

thats 4.5 times faster than the new ARB big tyre inflation compressor.

Steve.
thanks mate. does this draw any power whilst driving ? i know when i hit air con in my subaru it sucks the power.

Cheers again
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Post by sierrajim »

vicelore wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:The compressors are around the $400 mark (? could be wrong) an endless air compressor doesn't run oil so doesn't need the oiler/dryer that an actual A/C compressor needs.

Brackets will be custom, and a double pulley (A/C) will be required, but if you found a wrecked sierr with A/C those parts could be used, or you could set up the whole sierra A/C with an oiler and dryer.

They need a pressure switch and relay, (air locker pressure switch is fine)

No tank is required.

They run about 9cfm (or the same as a amall workshop compressor) at 3000 rpm.

thats 4.5 times faster than the new ARB big tyre inflation compressor.

Steve.
thanks mate. does this draw any power whilst driving ? i know when i hit air con in my subaru it sucks the power.

Cheers again
A belt driven compressor will only draw noticable power when its engaged. There's not too many times that you want to pump up tyres when you're driving so there's nothing to worry about.
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Post by vicelore »

thanks for that. .. i spose i should of asked if they are permantly pulling air.
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Post by sierrajim »

vicelore wrote:thanks for that. .. i spose i should of asked if they are permantly pulling air.
They're basically an A/C compressor, when switched off, there's almost no drag.
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Post by physh »

So how much and where can I get an Endless Air in Canberra for my Landcruiser? :)
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Post by MUD EMPIRE »

Best compressor for the money (for pumping tyres)
check out this link




http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=119860
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Post by vicelore »

MUD EMPIRE wrote:Best compressor for the money (for pumping tyres)
check out this link




http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=119860

i have been looking at this item. anyone got any opions on it ? i would kinda prefer an electric as i think it would be easier to ser up. and i wont be pumpin up lost. maybey ounce every weekend. so a few extra minutes here and there arnt a big issue. tho i havent ruled out a endless air..

how do both go with gettin wet ? ( maybey very wet) ??
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Post by MUD EMPIRE »

The Boss compressor is 12volt and for shear simplicity,...it's the 'shizzle'
Pumps bout the same as endless air, give or take.
Mount it inside the cab somewhere (out of reach of water).....
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Post by tj81 »

id sleep with my BOSS if my wife would let me :) ;)
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Post by Jeeps »

vicelore wrote:
MUD EMPIRE wrote:Best compressor for the money (for pumping tyres)
check out this link




http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=119860

i have been looking at this item. anyone got any opions on it ? i would kinda prefer an electric as i think it would be easier to ser up. and i wont be pumpin up lost. maybey ounce every weekend. so a few extra minutes here and there arnt a big issue. tho i havent ruled out a endless air..

how do both go with gettin wet ? ( maybey very wet) ??
Here's an opinion, and it's not favourable, well at least for the bloke who installed it. It's good reference for a varied opinion.

http://www.toyotasurf.asn.au/forum/view ... hp?t=14076

I'm sure they're tough, reliable and will never break but unless they've got an airtank they're not all that fast.

cheers
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Post by turps »

MUD EMPIRE wrote:The Boss compressor is 12volt and for shear simplicity,...it's the 'shizzle'
Pumps bout the same as endless air, give or take.
Mount it inside the cab somewhere (out of reach of water).....
As long as you fit the tank. Otherwise the flow rate is?
Went looking and he dosent list it. Just says use a tank and it will fill tyres quick. But a 15lt tank is a big tank.
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Post by tj81 »

Ive read that review, and heaps of others, and i still ended up buying the BOSS.

I did my own testing without a tank.

33" Cooper STT from 16 PSI to 35 PSI took me a minute per tyre.
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