what diff

Post by **Paul Smith** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:16 am

I was talking to a guy at a diff shop and he recommended putting a Truetrac LSD in the front and a detroit in the rear of my toyota 4runner.
any recomendations. does this sound like a good combo.

Not sure if I should spend the money on it, or look for another car.

Post by **jessie928** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:11 am

sounds like he is trying to sell you some gear he has on his hands

just put in airlockers and be done with it.

or if you want something that works without having to spend alot of money on it, buy yourself a patrol

Jes

Post by **j-top paj** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:43 am

i what 4wd? what do you want to use it for? do you really need diff locks?

Post by **jessie928** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:44 am

Paul Smith wrote:I was talking to a guy at a diff shop and he recommended putting a Truetrac LSD in the front and a detroit in the rear of my toyota 4runner.
any recomendations. does this sound like a good combo.

Not sure if I should spend the money on it, or look for another car.

Post by **Paul Smith** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:18 pm

I thought he was just trying to sell his product aswell.
A patrol has crossed my mind but cant afford one at the moment.
I will probalbe just put a stocker back in and save for a new car.

Post by **Tapage** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 3:42 am

I have a rule ( personal one sure ) never pay for a LSD .. are complete Useless in my experience and type of off road that I do ..

So give to uss an idea of your plans for your runner and lets figure ..

Post by **big lux** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:52 am

stick with the toyota she will go anywhere with the right driver.workout if you ned diff locks ie are you getting suck alot or at all i gt a lsd and never find myself using 4x4 except for stuff that most my mates wont even think about going through

Post by **jessie928** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 10:19 am

big lux wrote:stick with the toyota she will go anywhere with the right driver.workout if you ned diff locks ie are you getting suck alot or at all i gt a lsd and never find myself using 4x4 except for stuff that most my mates wont even think about going through

a toyota LSD??

bwaaaaaaahahahahah

Post by **big lux** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:20 pm

no i have a complete rear diff out of another truck

but thats another story. but if you are mechanicaly minded heavier springs or an extra plate in an lsd can give you a realy good lsd and ive never lookd back and 100 is alot cheaper then 920 for an air locker

Post by **mugginsmoo** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:57 pm

true trac's are theoretically the best way to go, as they deliver the torque to both wheels evenly, no matter what they are doing (in the air or on rock etc..)

personally i'd have a locker

Post by **Paul Smith** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:10 pm

I was thinking of putting a lockright in the front, I was going to do this as they are cheaper then the other options but I here so many different reports about them. as for what I want to do with my car, I want to be able to go to places like city view and get up the rock walls and not break anything, I think the main problem is inexperience on my behalf, but I will learn. What do you guys thing about putting lock rights in the front and the back.

big lux may I ask what diff you put into your car,

Post by **Tapage** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:45 pm

again my personal opinion based on my own experience ..

I ran EZ locker, Lock Right and Detroit .. when my HJ60 was my DD. No way ..

Today I thought they could function for a trail rig pretty fine .. maybe my driving stile but I never feel comfortable with auto lockers ..

Anycase broken axle stuff coz a locker it's something related to well rated parts .. ( bierfields, axles R&P etc .. ) and driving skills style ..

There are many fellows that run auto lockers front and rear for years .. with any issue ..

Post by **-Scott-** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:54 pm

Tapage wrote:I have a rule ( personal one sure ) never pay for a LSD .. are complete Useless in my experience and type of off road that I do ..

There's LSDs, and there's LSDs.

Some LSDs, such as Nissan and Mitsubishi, are "ramp loading" - they tighten as more torque is applied. They work well.

Toyota LSDs are NOT "ramp loading." They work OK while they're new, but everytime you turn a corner they wear, and they're getting worse.

Post by **Tapage** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:48 am

-Scott- wrote:
Tapage wrote:I have a rule ( personal one sure ) never pay for a LSD .. are complete Useless in my experience and type of off road that I do ..
There's LSDs, and there's LSDs.

Some LSDs, such as Nissan and Mitsubishi, are "ramp loading" - they tighten as more torque is applied. They work well.

Toyota LSDs are NOT "ramp loading." They work OK while they're new, but everytime you turn a corner they wear, and they're getting worse.

You are right ..

I'v seen here in Panama plenty of Patrol and Fontier ( nissan pickup comercial name here ) with factory LSD and pretty impresive performance ..

Never saw a Mitsu one working ..

Toyota LSD are

Post by **franco** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:33 pm

detroit tru-tracs are gear driven LSDs they dont wear out like clutch packed LSDs used normally in factory fittings. they work comparably yo a soflocker however, they will slip under high strenous conditions which may be a good thing if you dont want something else to let go or a bad if you needed that traction from a locker. Under the latter circumstance a bit a left foot braking will lock the axles and it will perform like a locker.

Steering is still managable with the tru-trac in front even in full-time 4wd (if you have that option). They are also stronger than most (if not all) factory carriers fitted with lunch box lockers.

I have them in front and rear ATM, but will put a detroit locker in the rear when i do my axle swap (upgrade to bigger diff) in the near future.

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