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how do you weld Bizalloy?
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Depends what grade of Bisalloy you're using, Bis80 can be welded without having to use special MIG wire or gas and can be easily welded to mild steel if needed. I think it's 400 grade and above that you need to start looking at changing your gas and wire. I'm not sure how you'd go using a stick to weld it though, all the stuff I've been involved with has been based around MIG welding.
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Re: how do you weld Bizalloy?
may have been more hepfull to add things like ......mickyd555 wrote:as above
Thickness of material & grade
application of the finished product
&
Most importantly what sort of welder you have or would like to use......
but we get ..... as above
so my answer to your question .........
how do you weld Bizalloy?
is......
with a welder
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At my old work we never did any thing special for welding bisalloy 360 or hardox 500.
Just ran the welder a little hotter. Never had a failure. Again as a bash plate I am guessing for the patrol, just weld as per usual.
Just ran the welder a little hotter. Never had a failure. Again as a bash plate I am guessing for the patrol, just weld as per usual.
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Re: how do you weld Bizalloy?
V8Patrol wrote:may have been more hepfull to add things like ......mickyd555 wrote:as above
Thickness of material & grade
application of the finished product
&
Most importantly what sort of welder you have or would like to use......
but we get ..... as above
so my answer to your question .........
how do you weld Bizalloy?
is......
with a welder
For bisalloy 80:
grind 1 to 2 mm from flame cut surfaces
preheating area should extend a minimum of 75mm on either side of the weld, more if preheating with a hand held heater
preheat - 50* to 75* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 75* to 100* for 12 to 19mm
the temp should be measured 75mm away from the joint
keep tip of gas flame at least 50mm away from the plate when preheating
use low hydrogen electrodes
it is necessary to restrict heat input during welding so do not use heavy runs or weaving - a number of smaller runs is better than a single heavy run
the maximum interpass temp is 150* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 180* for 12 to 19mm
grind 1 to 2 mm from flame cut surfaces
preheating area should extend a minimum of 75mm on either side of the weld, more if preheating with a hand held heater
preheat - 50* to 75* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 75* to 100* for 12 to 19mm
the temp should be measured 75mm away from the joint
keep tip of gas flame at least 50mm away from the plate when preheating
use low hydrogen electrodes
it is necessary to restrict heat input during welding so do not use heavy runs or weaving - a number of smaller runs is better than a single heavy run
the maximum interpass temp is 150* for 3 to 12mm thickness, 180* for 12 to 19mm
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Your right he is hopefully not going to drag it every day but when he does it will slide over alot eaiser than your standard belly plate will.ludacris wrote:Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.
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ok, so i looked up the weight of Bisalloy
http://www.bisalloy.com.au/files/Techma ... 0Sizes.pdf
and the weight of 250 grade plate
http://www.onesteel.com/images/db_image ... %20250.htm
for 6mm plate i got the following
Bisalloy = 47.08 kg/sq metre
mild steel = 49.1 kg/sq metre
I thought that bisalloy would be lighter, being an alloy and all. so correct me if im wrong the only downside i have seen so far is the welding process?? and now that kingy has pointed out that you just do it with a welder i think im set. eliteforce32 is going to stamp me some GU body panels out of Biz80 so thats great
am i right or cant i read graphs good
http://www.bisalloy.com.au/files/Techma ... 0Sizes.pdf
and the weight of 250 grade plate
http://www.onesteel.com/images/db_image ... %20250.htm
for 6mm plate i got the following
Bisalloy = 47.08 kg/sq metre
mild steel = 49.1 kg/sq metre
I thought that bisalloy would be lighter, being an alloy and all. so correct me if im wrong the only downside i have seen so far is the welding process?? and now that kingy has pointed out that you just do it with a welder
i think im set. eliteforce32 is going to stamp me some GU body panels out of Biz80 so thats great am i right or cant i read graphs good
If you can get it at the right price then by all means go for it. What price can you get it at legend.mickyd555 wrote:why do you say that Chris? and if said bizalloy was 'at the right price' would you say otherwise?ludacris wrote:Unless you already have the bissa alloy I would just go for standard steel sheet for a bash plate. Its not like you are dragging your arse over shit every minute of the day.
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