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6:1 not low enough? Try 8:1

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6:1 not low enough? Try 8:1

Post by Ferwoaza »

Posted up at www.zukiworld.com

Also a thread on it over at Pirate....apparently they have adjusted the 6:1 so that no grinding is needed and the 8:1 will require the same grinding the 6:1 needed.....geez they are getting low!

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Post by greg »

I guess all these super low gearing options are going to make the "low down torque" arguement null and void - pretty soon you'll all want engines with a high rev range instead :D

Bring on the F6A - redlines at 8,500rpms, maxes out at 11,000 :cool:
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k6a is better.....11000 rpm redline
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Post by greg »

mud4b wrote:k6a is better.....11000 rpm redline


damn :oops: :cry:
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

To be honest I think it is a misprint cause if you read the specs they are the same as the 6.1 gears.Rocky road has them as listed as the 6.1.

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We (M&M and us) are getting three sets of 7.5 gearsets made at the moment for testing and if all is good they will then go on the market. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by greg »

overkill wrote:We (M&M and us) are getting three sets of 7.5 gearsets made at the moment for testing and if all is good they will then go on the market. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


What about a T-case doubler Sam? That would be far more useful - as it's possible gains are far greater than just increasing the gearing in the x-fer case...

See t-case doubler idea here:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=9727

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greg wrote:
overkill wrote:We (M&M and us) are getting three sets of 7.5 gearsets made at the moment for testing and if all is good they will then go on the market. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


What about a T-case doubler Sam? That would be far more useful - as it's possible gains are far greater than just increasing the gearing in the x-fer case...

See t-case doubler idea here:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=9727

:cool:


It is in the pipeline. :D But I think price will be the main issue.
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Post by greg »

overkill wrote:It is in the pipeline. :D But I think price will be the main issue.
SAM


Agreed, but being able to multiply everything behind it by 1.8 would have to be some sort of incentive :)
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Post by Luigi Malone »

mud4b wrote:k6a is better.....11000 rpm redline



What's the K6A out of please?

As far as revvers go, has any one considered a Motorcycle engine? Say a GSX 1300 or sim.? They're as big as 1800's too.
Short chain drive to a long shaft direct to the T case or sim?
Power to weight ratios would be impressive.
Rev till you cringe and shift like a Kart racer (On the steering wheel or column)

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Post by Luigi Malone »

overkill wrote:
greg wrote:
overkill wrote:We (M&M and us) are getting three sets of 7.5 gearsets made at the moment for testing and if all is good they will then go on the market. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


What about a T-case doubler Sam? That would be far more useful - as it's possible gains are far greater than just increasing the gearing in the x-fer case...

See t-case doubler idea here:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=9727

:cool:


It is in the pipeline. :D But I think price will be the main issue.
SAM


If you can beat the cost of importing say, a rokblok from the USofA
then surely sales would follow?
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Post by greg »

Luigi Malone wrote:
mud4b wrote:k6a is better.....11000 rpm redline



What's the K6A out of please?

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Late model Cappoccino - after 93-ish i think...

Same size as the F6A but it's an alloy block and has some other goodies too.
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Post by redzook »

overkill wrote:
greg wrote:
overkill wrote:We (M&M and us) are getting three sets of 7.5 gearsets made at the moment for testing and if all is good they will then go on the market. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


What about a T-case doubler Sam? That would be far more useful - as it's possible gains are far greater than just increasing the gearing in the x-fer case...

See t-case doubler idea here:
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=9727

:cool:


It is in the pipeline. :D But I think price will be the main issue.
SAM


roughly what do u reckon it will cost? and how far down the pipeline?
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Post by CHOPZUKI »

are they going to have a warranty?
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Post by redzook »

overkill wrote:To be honest I think it is a misprint cause if you read the specs they are the same as the 6.1 gears.Rocky road has them as listed as the 6.1.

SAM


i dont think it is a misprint they have listed 8.1 twise

an they say it is the lowest gear set on the planet
when there is a 6.5 gear set out from calmini

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Post by greg »

yld04b wrote:are they going to have a warranty?


Why would it not have a warranty?

I would expect that it would, but maybe it would have to be installed by a qualified person (as per Rockhopper warranty).
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Post by CHOPZUKI »

im looking at buying series threes and i want warranty so if they are going to warrant these ones i might as well wait and get them if price is ok.
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Post by OVERKILL ENG »

redzook wrote:
overkill wrote:To be honest I think it is a misprint cause if you read the specs they are the same as the 6.1 gears.Rocky road has them as listed as the 6.1.

SAM


i dont think it is a misprint they have listed 8.1 twise

an they say it is the lowest gear set on the planet
when there is a 6.5 gear set out from calmini

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I looked on RRO sight and could only find the 6.1's listed.

Price wise we won't know until they are made . athe more we can get made obviously the cheaper they will be. And yes they will have warranty.
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Post by Ferwoaza »

There is a thread on Pirate about the 8:1 gears. Apparently they are real, but Glenn has been away at SEMMA etc and hasn't updated the site..supposedly out in December but no confirmation on that has been given....

Now to beat someone up and get them to make gears for the Feroza :D
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