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UHF ???

Post by mud80 »

how do i find out more info for uhf repeaters in vic?- dargo/high country

want to plan a trip with bikes and 4wds and need to find the best chanel to use?
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Post by MUD EMPIRE »

Vic high country is not UHF friendly. Repeaters can be tripped at only some of the 'high points'. There's a repeater at Foster and one at Wangaratta.......If you're on Buller or Hotham you'll get something, but it's all so unreliable.
Best for distance in high country is sideband AM. If you have a sideband set with decent wattage you'll be able to communicate even if your at the bottom of a valley in rough terrain. ie. UHF's hate trees and valleys.......

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Post by Wish I had coils »

from memory i could get channel 1 reapeter near buller but that was about it dropped out shortley after
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Post by j-top paj »

MUD EMPIRE wrote:sideband AM
:? i thought it was AM or LSB or USB or FM or CW :finger:

why does everyone call 27dregs "AM" all the time?
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Post by BASSYK »

j-top paj wrote:
MUD EMPIRE wrote:sideband AM
:? i thought it was AM or LSB or USB or FM or CW :finger:

why does everyone call 27dregs "AM" all the time?
cos 27Megs uses "AM'
UHF uses FM

see definition of "Amplitude Modulation" and "Frequency Modulation"
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Post by j-top paj »

BASSYK wrote:
j-top paj wrote:
MUD EMPIRE wrote:sideband AM
:? i thought it was AM or LSB or USB or FM or CW :finger:

why does everyone call 27dregs "AM" all the time?
cos 27Megs uses "AM'
UHF uses FM

see definition of "Amplitude Modulation" and "Frequency Modulation"
so i cant transmitt FM on 27dregs?
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Post by festy »

Not legally - but yes, there is FM activity on 27MHz.

AM is actually 'AM double sideband', SSB is 'AM single sideband suppressed carrier'
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Post by j-top paj »

what i meant was everyone commonly refers to 27dregs as "AM" rather than HF cb.
if everyone calls UHF cb that then why not call HF what it actually is?

to me it just sounds so odd
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Post by Goatse.AJ »

Get a ham license :D

120watts legally and plenty of repeaters...
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Post by -Scott- »

festy wrote:Not legally - but yes, there is FM activity on 27MHz.

AM is actually 'AM double sideband', SSB is 'AM single sideband suppressed carrier'
Interesting. I've always interpreted "AM" to imply both sidebands are present on a full carrier. Anything else should be specified.
j-top paj wrote:what i meant was everyone commonly refers to 27dregs as "AM" rather than HF cb.
if everyone calls UHF cb that then why not call HF what it actually is?

to me it just sounds so odd
It's convention. Citizen Band in Oz started with the 27MHz AM/SSB sets, and later we got the 477MHz UHF stuff - all power limited.

The term HF is also commonly applied to the "RFDS style" transceivers which operate with 100W plus - no license required if you subscribe to one of the "services" available.
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Post by j-top paj »

AJFeroza wrote:Get a ham license :D
got one :D











































































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Post by hzj75 »

check out this site it is always updated...

http://www.tropinet.com/uhf-repeaters
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Post by hzj75 »

RoadNazi wrote:http://www.telstat.com.au/uhf_vic.htm

This is a start.
Just a quick note this site is not updated and alot of repeaters that are on here have been pulled out of service long ago
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Post by hzj75 »

this site is the same as the telsat site and is way out of wack..
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Post by longlux »

hzj75 wrote:
this site is the same as the telsat site and is way out of wack..
It seems to have the same site you posted :?

http://oztravelers.6.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=38
hzj75 wrote:check out this site it is always updated...

http://www.tropinet.com/uhf-repeaters
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Post by festy »

-Scott- wrote:
festy wrote:Not legally - but yes, there is FM activity on 27MHz.

AM is actually 'AM double sideband', SSB is 'AM single sideband suppressed carrier'
Interesting. I've always interpreted "AM" to imply both sidebands are present on a full carrier. Anything else should be specified..
AM is just the modulation method - amplitude modulation, i.e. the waveform is modulated by varying the height of the wave (y axis of the waveform), FM is frequency modulation, whereby the wave is modulated by varying the frequency, or x axis of the wave.

An AM DSB (A3E designation for voice telephony) transmission has the signal (i.e. voice) 'encoded' into the carrier, with both sidebands in tact.
A typical SSB transmission then takes this and suppresses one of the sidebands (the upper in the case of LSB) and also suppresses the carrier, leaving pretty much only a single sideband in tact in the transmission. This is designates a J3E transmission.
There are other AM modes in use too - Vestigal sideband is used in TV transmissions (C2F?), as well as independent sidebands and variable carrier.

Then there's other forms of modulation like Pulse modulation (PM), but that *really* has no relevence in this thread ;)

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