disco help!

Post by **--sinner--** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:50 pm

hey guys, went to check out a 91 tdi disco this afternoon. guy failed to mention in the ad that the car doesnt drive.
now the problem seems to be the clutch. the guy who owns the car has no idea about anything.

heres what i could see, the clutch fails to engage at all, theres no pressure whatsoever, its just a free playing pedal.
now there is plenty of fluid in the clutch resevoir so im guessing its not a split hose anywhere.

the question is, does this mean that it needs a whole new clutch? or could something have come loose to stop it engaging??

and if it is a clutch, then how much am i looking at to replace it?

thanks all!

Post by **--sinner--** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:57 pm

also there was a bit of oil sprayed round the bottom of the motor round the front? is this a concern? i heard its normal for disco's to leak.
cheers again

Post by **quaddrive** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:38 pm

Hard to say without seeing the vehicle.
But they do sometomes wear through the clutch throw-out fork... the shaft from the slave cylinder wears through the clutch fork and whamo no pressure at all and no clutch..
$$ to fix I am unsure of best to check your local LR guys.
hope this helps

Post by **ISUZUROVER** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:23 pm

quaddrive wrote:Hard to say without seeing the vehicle.
But they do sometomes wear through the clutch throw-out fork... the shaft from the slave cylinder wears through the clutch fork and whamo no pressure at all and no clutch..
$$ to fix I am unsure of best to check your local LR guys.
hope this helps

This is the most likely problem. How many k's did it have?

Post by **--sinner--** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:43 pm

it has about 215k on it, i was also thinking maybe the master cylinder? clutch throw out fork huh, hmmm, sounds a lot cheaper than a whole new clutch

Post by **Utemad** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:55 pm

It sounds like this car is for sale.

I'd be running the other way

If he forgot to tell you it doesn't drive, did he also forget to tell you about the horrible grinding noise it made before it stopped?

If you really want it then I wouldn't be offering any more than wrecker value for it.

Post by **--sinner--** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:19 pm

apparently he reckons it just needs to tighten a hose somewhere, thats why he didnt tell me, he said to come back sunday and he'll have it fixed.....doubtful, but we'll see i guess, the motor runs etc...just cant drive it cos of clutch problem...

Post by **Loanrangie** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:16 pm

Unless he is asking sub 5k for it walk away, its too old to be low k even if its ok now it wont take long for it to give trouble.

Post by **andrew e** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:02 pm

Loanrangie wrote:Unless he is asking sub 5k for it walk away, its too old to be low k even if its ok now it wont take long for it to give trouble.

you mean sub 2k! it isn't even a 300tdi, or the update for that matter.

Add in 2.5k for another box and clutch including install.

Post by **--sinner--** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:40 pm

so is it a fairly hard job to replace the clutch throw out fork?

Post by **andrew e** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:05 pm

prety much the same as changing your clutch. ie gearbox out of the car etc.

Post by **Utemad** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:19 pm

--sinner-- wrote:so is it a fairly hard job to replace the clutch throw out fork?

Gearbox out job. Never done a Landy but can't be too different.

Tell the seller to do it himself otherwise it is scrap/wrecking price only.

Post by **closet1092004** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:44 pm

Everyone has gone for worse case scenario - my disco is auto so I don't really know about that (open myself to flaming!!) but on my series when the pedal went to the floor it was almost always clutch master cylinder or slave cylinder - both are easy fixes. Mind you I would get him to fix it first or pay next to nothing for it..

Post by **Utemad** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:03 pm

It was the original poster who mentioned the clutch fork. I assume the seller told him that was the problem.
Also if it was a hydraulic reason then the clutch pedal should stay on the floor and require pulling back up. That is what my Disco does anyway (R380).

Post by **Loanrangie** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:37 pm

andrew e wrote:
Loanrangie wrote:Unless he is asking sub 5k for it walk away, its too old to be low k even if its ok now it wont take long for it to give trouble.
you mean sub 2k! it isn't even a 300tdi, or the update for that matter.

Add in 2.5k for another box and clutch including install.

I was being generous but yeah an early 200tdi like that shouldnt be more than 2k unless its perfect.

Post by **nottie** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:00 pm

just out of curiosity what are the 200tdis like with a manuel box? To drive and such that is.

Post by **Loanrangie** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:31 pm

nottie wrote:just out of curiosity what are the 200tdis like with a manuel box? To drive and such that is.

I havent driven 1 but my mates 93 tdi manual disco seemed to pull away better than i expected and that was before i had mine to judge it by.

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