GQ LPG new system 1 day old lots of problems!! with pics

[bogged]

Went down to pick the car up as i said i would be back to pick the car up and i get there and what happens its not ready. I said to them thanks for the ***** PHONE CALL!!!! he goes i am sorry. We are still waiting on parts. so going down tonight again to see whats the go!

steve

you are more patient then i ever can be.

simply they could say fuck off heres your car in bits... but yea, startin to agree

[steveoo]

Now have been back down there today and got the car all finished!!! SHOCK HORRAR it looks like it was done 90% dropply requires a few cable ties here and there on the wiring in the car but nothing major like last time.

When i picked the car up they have givin me a free 20,000km's service for the stress of it all. yeh what ever.......


I went and saw anothny (blownba) from the forums he had a look gave it a once over and said things look not too bad couple of little things just fix them up my self and will be all good hopefuly tuning was done correct!! VERY BIG HELP!!!!!!!!!

now the question every one ask WHO DID THE CONVERTION:?

Code: Select all

 Company name has been edited out for liability reasons.



Should you require the companies details then please contact the poster for them  via a PM.



Kingy

make your own mind if you want to go there... you can only guess what i say about them!!![/code]

[turps]

Good to here things are looking better. And top work on Anthony giving it a once over.

[sierrajim]

I'll chime in here.

As a business i've dealt with the same company a number of times. Over a dozen vehicles fitted with their systems, many of wich have been the first of their particular model fitted with LPG out here. To date only one problem associated with routing of a heater hose (the gas cooled the water too well and the rear heater unit didn't work 100%) this was fixed in less than 10 minutes.

I've always found them to be helpful and professional. The quality of work displayed in your initial post is quite out of the ordinary. The fact that they have done the right thing and made good on their job and offered you the additional compensation.

Surely you need to at least respect them for doing the right thing in the end.



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Kingy

[V8Patrol]

I've received a complaint about the company involved being named. As a result the name and address has been deleted from the thread.

Should you require further information or belive this may affect your purchase of a similar system in any way then please contact the original poster for further details and keep the company name off of the board.



Posting good things about companies is good for evey one involved
Posting bad things about companies is bad for everyone, involved or not.


Kingy

[jessie928]

I've received a complaint about the company involved being named. As a result the name and address has been deleted from the thread.

Should you require further information or belive this may affect your purchase of a similar system in any way then please contact the original poster for further details and keep the company name off of the board.



Posting good things about companies is good for evey one involved
Posting bad things about companies is bad for everyone, involved or not.


Kingy

i dont agree with this

This is a public forum, there have been PLENTY posts about company names in the past that are bad.

Its very sad that you have come to the agreement of deleting the company name. so SCREW the members of the site and if they happen to use this workshop SUCKED IN to them, because thats the attitude that you promote by deleting the post!

PUT UP A VOTE, and let the people decide before you make a judgement call for thousands of users.

worse than the government making decisions on our behalf.


JEs

[RN]

Jes,

if this was your site then I think you would have a right, but it isn't, please check the posting rules.

Freedom of Speech is a fallacy.

It is very dangerous for businesses to be named on forums. This is a privae forum and the rules of the engagement are clear.

The mods have the final say.

#1- This is a private forum and membership is at the absolute discretion of the Forum Owner / Administrator.

#2- Users are permitted to register one username only. If you want to change the username at any stage you will have to contact the administrators.(RUFF or StrangeRover)

#3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy.

#4- Posts that are rude, offensive, insulting, racist or slanderous are forbidden and may be deleted.

#5- If a member continues to post these types of posts, their membership may be cancelled.

#6- If you are moderated and you wish to discuss it, PM the moderators or the administrator(RUFF or StrangeRover).

#7- If you have concerns with a post made in the forum, PM the moderators or the administrator.

#8-Stirring trouble in the forums may result in a cancelled membership.

#9- Forum Owner / Administrator reserves the right to modify forum rules as and when deemed necessary. Such rules will be binding for all members.

#10- Pictures that contain obscene or sexually oriented content are not allowed and may be removed. If a member continues to post this content their membership may be cancelled.

#11- Flaming, insulting or slanderous posts reguarding other Forums will not be tolerated or you may have your membership cancelled.

#12- Spamming of any kind will not be tolerated. If it is deamed your posts are spam your Membership WILL be cancelled.

#13- While the administrators and moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

[mud80]

I'm with jessie928, I think this is wrong.

If they had of done the job that was paid for in the first place then the company would not have been named!

I call vote also!

[jessie928]

Jes,

if this was your site then I think you would have a right, but it isn't, please check the posting rules.

Freedom of Speech is a fallacy.

It is very dangerous for businesses to be named on forums. This is a privae forum and the rules of the engagement are clear.

The mods have the final say.

#1- This is a private forum and membership is at the absolute discretion of the Forum Owner / Administrator.

#2- Users are permitted to register one username only. If you want to change the username at any stage you will have to contact the administrators.(RUFF or StrangeRover)

#3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy.

#4- Posts that are rude, offensive, insulting, racist or slanderous are forbidden and may be deleted.

#5- If a member continues to post these types of posts, their membership may be cancelled.

#6- If you are moderated and you wish to discuss it, PM the moderators or the administrator(RUFF or StrangeRover).

#7- If you have concerns with a post made in the forum, PM the moderators or the administrator.

#8-Stirring trouble in the forums may result in a cancelled membership.

#9- Forum Owner / Administrator reserves the right to modify forum rules as and when deemed necessary. Such rules will be binding for all members.

#10- Pictures that contain obscene or sexually oriented content are not allowed and may be removed. If a member continues to post this content their membership may be cancelled.

#11- Flaming, insulting or slanderous posts reguarding other Forums will not be tolerated or you may have your membership cancelled.

#12- Spamming of any kind will not be tolerated. If it is deamed your posts are spam your Membership WILL be cancelled.

#13- While the administrators and moderators of this forum will attempt to remove or edit any generally objectionable material as quickly as possible, it is impossible to review every message. Therefore you acknowledge that all posts made to these forums express the views and opinions of the author and not the administrators, moderators or webmaster (except for posts by these people) and hence will not be held liable.

i wonder if those rules were the same when i signed up in 2002?

in the forum rules "#3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy" actually NEGATES the requirement of ANY other rules.

I am the owner/moderator of a fair few forum's probably before alot of people knew what the internet was so i am quite up to date about the ethics and regulation of free speech on an internet forum.

its actually not dangerous naming names on the internet. Its the scare tactics that are dangerous and these are scaring ordinary people into submission to some "invisible extraorinary power"

Fair enough, today the rules are as they are that you pasted. But it is SAD, quite SAD that we are degraded to this.

Cheers,
JEs

[RN]

I was moderated in my early days, 'used to have a swastika as my avator. It was removed as it had upset a few and was removed.

No worries, moved on ( even though it is an ancient symbol of purity and power) but, I accepted the rules.

The position that most OL member have to face is, does this site give me the satisfaction? Do I want to continue membership?

If the answers are no, then members are free to move on and find one that suits them.

[jessie928]

I was moderated in my early days, 'used to have a swastika as my avator. It was removed as it had upset a few and was removed.

No worries, moved on ( even though it is an ancient symbol of purity and power) but, I accepted the rules.

The position that most OL member have to face is, does this site give me the satisfaction? Do I want to continue membership?

If the answers are no, then members are free to move on and find one that suits them.

A cop that likes the Nazi Symbol, that got it deleted, and now is a moderator of the site Cool... perfect match for #3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy...... double cool.............

What you state is plainly obvious, and is the situation for everything in life, Including family, suburb, city, country... If you dont like it, Leave.

What you are suggesting here, to me, a Member, on a subject like this is quite harsh dont you think?

SO if we dont like something, Lets all leave..??? I am sure that 99% of people on this site dont like something about it, Even the moderators, take case in point your avatar, or certain members of the site.

an avatar can be removed, but to censor information that can and believe me WILL help other members on the forum is in my opinion unreasonable, and Voicing that is my right, wherever i am.

just so we have this clear in case of future problems,
someone on here ( or not) , can own or know a company, that rips off Outerlimits members, does shoddy work, can get away with it because they are not allowed to be named?

So whats stopping normal every day members ripping of outerlimits members by promising them ARB lockers for 200$ a pop taking their money and then not sending the lockers?

or installing the lockers for 2000 and then making the member go back countless times because they did not know what they are doing?

so if this sort of thing was to happen on THIS forum, then its ok because we cant talk about it..

Also, please make sure you are SURE to moderate the identity of EBAY SCAMMERS aswell while you are at it.


JEs

[sierrajim]

Jessie,

I think RN is saying that if you don't agree with the rules, leave. In this case YOU have the choice.

One also needs to take into account that the average internet user (Note - I am not pointing the finger at anyone) will feel free to flame away at a service provider based on THEIR opinion.

Lets look at this case.

Mr X pays money to company (gas fiter) has a problem, takes it back, they say OK we'll fix it, they fix it. Customer drives away with a complimentary 20,000km service.

As i had said before, i have dealt with this particular company for a number of years. I know their work, i know how they run their business.

Now he had a problem, they fixed it. Sure he had the inconvienience of having to go back, but they fixed it. If anything they deserve some credit for what they have done.

The unfortunate fact is that the internet breeds keyboard tough guys only willing to tell their half of the story which then leads to a 10 page thread of people saying "how bad is that!!!!" that degrades into another pissing contest full of political BS. The management and owners of the site have elected to resolve such issues before they start by having the policies discussed earlier.

I think there was another member once that didn't think the rules were the "right" thing to have either. He started another site free from rules, free from the "Iron Fist of Ruff" far away from the radar of RN. I think it was called double low off road or something like that. You should go check it out.

[jessie928]

Jessie,

I think RN is saying that if you don't agree with the rules, leave. In this case YOU have the choice.

One also needs to take into account that the average internet user (Note - I am not pointing the finger at anyone) will feel free to flame away at a service provider based on THEIR opinion.

Lets look at this case.

Mr X pays money to company (gas fiter) has a problem, takes it back, they say OK we'll fix it, they fix it. Customer drives away with a complimentary 20,000km service.

As i had said before, i have dealt with this particular company for a number of years. I know their work, i know how they run their business.

Now he had a problem, they fixed it. Sure he had the inconvienience of having to go back, but they fixed it. If anything they deserve some credit for what they have done.

The unfortunate fact is that the internet breeds keyboard tough guys only willing to tell their half of the story which then leads to a 10 page thread of people saying "how bad is that!!!!" that degrades into another pissing contest full of political BS. The management and owners of the site have elected to resolve such issues before they start by having the policies discussed earlier.

I think there was another member once that didn't think the rules were the "right" thing to have either. He started another site free from rules, free from the "Iron Fist of Ruff" far away from the radar of RN. I think it was called double low off road or something like that. You should go check it out.

hi mate,

I think you are missing the point, or are un-able to understand it.

NO ONE should EVER be subjected the an LPG installtion like that FULL STOP.

if that vehicle exploded because of gas leaking out from under the MIXER and mixing with the right amount of air and a spark, What do you think would happen at a coronial enquiry to the DEath of the occupants and the people in the garage the car was ideling in?

what would have happened if the patrol was owned by a person that did not know any better?

Its because people are afraid to speak up on subjects like this and lodge complaints that people are consistantly getting ripped off and been given inferior service from companies in this country.

SHODDY WORK? no dramas mate, your safe on the internet.

the install was shocking, there is NO excuse that ANY company can give for that ABORTION rolling out the door fully paid for. FULL STOP.


you got a dozen cars with good gas installs? yeah thst probably because he expects repeate buisness.... quite obvious

DO you think the installer would have cared if you didnt call him up and let him know whats writton on the internet about them? or even given a 20,000 service???

If i wanted to start my own site, i dont need your permission or guidance, thanks for offering anyway.

you already made your position clear as a friend of the business involved anyhow


Cheers,
Jes

[rOd]

Yet another thread that has fallen victim to the new communism called "political correctness".

[pootrol]

im with jessie no excuse what so ever for that to roll out the door and for them to have the cheek to take money as well.what if that was some ones wife and kids driving around cos hubby is away or has no idea. forums are for info good and bad.by silencing the bad does that make the forum responsible for that family that gets hurt cos they are made aware of such things but decide to sensor it .it was probably a one off which they rectified and are probably embarresed about but id like to know or be aware of things like this.

[RN]

I think forums are excellent in obtaining information...but read the rules.

Don't like the ruling , PM the mod who removed or modified the thread.


The danger in posting information that defames another person or business is that everyone who reads usually believes it to be true. I have no reason to doubt ( judging by the photos) that the author's installation was poor but, ....he should PM the mod to find out what the specific complaint was. This site is not designed to act as a Small Claims tribunal which has the mechanism to hear and pass judgement. If you need to know the installers business I would suggest that you PM the author.


Just be carefull with the information you receive.

[Simo63]

Interesting development of this topic.

Why don't we all do what was originally suggested? I have. I've pm'd Steveoo to find out for myself who the business is. I trust that Steveoo is able to divulge that information to me in a private and informal manner and then I will know who not to go to for any sort of mechanical service.

Any business (and yes I own one myself) that lets work like that out the door is poorly managed. Fixing something after the fact is a very very poor substitute for doing it right the first time around. We can speculate all day about "whats" and "ifs" and forum membership but the fact remains they provide poor service and little or no quality control. Therefore they do not deserve our patronage.

Simple really.

[RN]

I was moderated in my early days, 'used to have a swastika as my avator. It was removed as it had upset a few and was removed.

No worries, moved on ( even though it is an ancient symbol of purity and power) but, I accepted the rules.

The position that most OL member have to face is, does this site give me the satisfaction? Do I want to continue membership?

If the answers are no, then members are free to move on and find one that suits them.

A cop that likes the Nazi Symbol, that got it deleted, and now is a moderator of the site Cool... perfect match for #3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy...... double cool.............

What you state is plainly obvious, and is the situation for everything in life, Including family, suburb, city, country... If you dont like it, Leave.

What you are suggesting here, to me, a Member, on a subject like this is quite harsh dont you think?

SO if we dont like something, Lets all leave..??? I am sure that 99% of people on this site dont like something about it, Even the moderators, take case in point your avatar, or certain members of the site.

an avatar can be removed, but to censor information that can and believe me WILL help other members on the forum is in my opinion unreasonable, and Voicing that is my right, wherever i am.

just so we have this clear in case of future problems,
someone on here ( or not) , can own or know a company, that rips off Outerlimits members, does shoddy work, can get away with it because they are not allowed to be named?

So whats stopping normal every day members ripping of outerlimits members by promising them ARB lockers for 200$ a pop taking their money and then not sending the lockers?

or installing the lockers for 2000 and then making the member go back countless times because they did not know what they are doing?

so if this sort of thing was to happen on THIS forum, then its ok because we cant talk about it..

Also, please make sure you are SURE to moderate the identity of EBAY SCAMMERS aswell while you are at it.


JEs

This isn't parliament where you openly debate the rules. PM the modertor and ask.

[jessie928]

I think forums are excellent in obtaining information...but read the rules.

Don't like the ruling , PM the mod who removed or modified the thread.


The danger in posting information that defames another person or business is that everyone who reads usually believes it to be true. I have no reason to doubt ( judging by the photos) that the author's installation was poor but, ....he should PM the mod to find out what the specific complaint was. This site is not designed to act as a Small Claims tribunal which has the mechanism to hear and pass judgement. If you need to know the installers business I would suggest that you PM the author.


Just be carefull with the information you receive.

its plainly obvious that what was written is true, these pics do-not lie. It was not a poor installation, It was beyond poor, it was even beyond a 5 year old with a plastic bob the builder toolkit


whats this scare tactic man,

"Just be carefull with the information you receive."

or else what? whats going op happen ?

[jessie928]

I was moderated in my early days, 'used to have a swastika as my avator. It was removed as it had upset a few and was removed.

No worries, moved on ( even though it is an ancient symbol of purity and power) but, I accepted the rules.

The position that most OL member have to face is, does this site give me the satisfaction? Do I want to continue membership?

If the answers are no, then members are free to move on and find one that suits them.

A cop that likes the Nazi Symbol, that got it deleted, and now is a moderator of the site Cool... perfect match for #3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy...... double cool.............

What you state is plainly obvious, and is the situation for everything in life, Including family, suburb, city, country... If you dont like it, Leave.

What you are suggesting here, to me, a Member, on a subject like this is quite harsh dont you think?

SO if we dont like something, Lets all leave..??? I am sure that 99% of people on this site dont like something about it, Even the moderators, take case in point your avatar, or certain members of the site.

an avatar can be removed, but to censor information that can and believe me WILL help other members on the forum is in my opinion unreasonable, and Voicing that is my right, wherever i am.

just so we have this clear in case of future problems,
someone on here ( or not) , can own or know a company, that rips off Outerlimits members, does shoddy work, can get away with it because they are not allowed to be named?

So whats stopping normal every day members ripping of outerlimits members by promising them ARB lockers for 200$ a pop taking their money and then not sending the lockers?

or installing the lockers for 2000 and then making the member go back countless times because they did not know what they are doing?

so if this sort of thing was to happen on THIS forum, then its ok because we cant talk about it..

Also, please make sure you are SURE to moderate the identity of EBAY SCAMMERS aswell while you are at it.


JEs

This isn't parliament where you openly debate the rules. PM the modertor and ask.

nice answer.very fitting....

however you fail to realise that
" posting information in regards to Shoddy workmanship, EBAY scammers, Rip of artists is BANNED"
does not apear in the rules

Jes

[RN]

I was moderated in my early days, 'used to have a swastika as my avator. It was removed as it had upset a few and was removed.

No worries, moved on ( even though it is an ancient symbol of purity and power) but, I accepted the rules.

The position that most OL member have to face is, does this site give me the satisfaction? Do I want to continue membership?

If the answers are no, then members are free to move on and find one that suits them.

A cop that likes the Nazi Symbol, that got it deleted, and now is a moderator of the site Cool... perfect match for #3- Freedom of speech is a fallacy...... double cool.............

What you state is plainly obvious, and is the situation for everything in life, Including family, suburb, city, country... If you dont like it, Leave.

What you are suggesting here, to me, a Member, on a subject like this is quite harsh dont you think?

SO if we dont like something, Lets all leave..??? I am sure that 99% of people on this site dont like something about it, Even the moderators, take case in point your avatar, or certain members of the site.

an avatar can be removed, but to censor information that can and believe me WILL help other members on the forum is in my opinion unreasonable, and Voicing that is my right, wherever i am.

just so we have this clear in case of future problems,
someone on here ( or not) , can own or know a company, that rips off Outerlimits members, does shoddy work, can get away with it because they are not allowed to be named?

So whats stopping normal every day members ripping of outerlimits members by promising them ARB lockers for 200$ a pop taking their money and then not sending the lockers?

or installing the lockers for 2000 and then making the member go back countless times because they did not know what they are doing?

so if this sort of thing was to happen on THIS forum, then its ok because we cant talk about it..

Also, please make sure you are SURE to moderate the identity of EBAY SCAMMERS aswell while you are at it.


JEs

This isn't parliament where you openly debate the rules. PM the modertor and ask.

nice answer.very fitting....

however you fail to realise that
" posting information in regards to Shoddy workmanship, EBAY scammers, Rip of artists is BANNED"
does not apear in the rules

Jes

Jes,

PM the mod who had it removed and discuss it with him. I have no idea what the complaint was. You never know it may all make sense to you.

[RUFF]

This is a public forum

NO IT IS NOT!

Jes, This isnt the first time you have got into an argument on this site because you beleived the moderator or administrator was wrong but it is the last time. As has been said you dont like the rules than you dont need be a part of this community. They are written in black and white and are in plain view for all to read. Its obvious from your replies here that you have no interest in abiding by these rules. So i have made the decision to remove you from this community.

These rules are not all fair but they are my rules. And i will always make the final desision on wether or not you have broken them.

Fact here is that when its all said and done im the one someone is going to chase in court because i allowed someone to slander someone else on the internet. Yes its a sad thing that this world has come to this but it is exactly what it has come to.

Im not willing to lose my house or my money because of a one sided story. Factual or not.

If anyone else here doesnt feel the rules should apply to them dont hessitate to contact me im more than happy to remove your details from the site as well.

[RUFF]

After putting some thought into this overnight i have come to the decision to re-instate Jes's membership here on the one condition that if he has a problem with a moderators decision to either contact the moderator via PM or contact myself via PM. Not get into a pissing match over how this site should or shouldnt be run.

i dont agree with this

This is a public forum, there have been PLENTY posts about company names in the past that are bad.

Its very sad that you have come to the agreement of deleting the company name. so SCREW the members of the site and if they happen to use this workshop SUCKED IN to them, because thats the attitude that you promote by deleting the post!

PUT UP A VOTE, and let the people decide before you make a judgement call for thousands of users.

worse than the government making decisions on our behalf.


JEs

Jes I dont totaly agrea with it either.

BUT....

Firstly this is not a public forum it is a private forum and all these users are here because we allow them to be here. Although yes it is mostly visible to the public. But im sure non of you want me to change this right?

When a company is named here i am the one that is going to end up in court defending myself on my own with my own money. Non of you guys are going to be there to support me or replace what i could possibly loose because someone annonimously accuses someone else for doing something wrong. In a perfect world i agrea everyone should know who this vendor is. But also remember its as simple as PMing the original poster to find this out. If we wanted to hide all trace of these problems we would delete the entire thread and most would be non the wiser.

Remember there are allways two sides to a story. Yes the pictures look bad but there is also no proof that steveoo didnt do the install himself and has a vendetta against the company named. Steve please dont take that the wrong way. Im not actually doubting your story but its totaly possible and this is why we need to handle these situations this way.

As for a vote. You have no rights here. This is my house and i say what goes on. I will allways make the judgment call for the majority here.

Again in a perfect world i would be happy to name bad companies but this is not a perfect world.

Call me a Nazi it really doesnt bother me. If it did this site would have been gone a long time ago. Someone here has to be the asshole that someone is me and will be for as long as this site exsists so dont sit there thinking one day he will be gone and this site will then be perfect. Because it will never be perfect.

[pongo]

Borrow a line if i may Ruff

Thanks for the quote, i wonder if ( or I ) it will last

[joe crothers]

Ruff good decision in my opinion. But you do what you have to do, It would be a pity to have jes's membership cancelled cause he offerers a vast range of knowledge and always gives good advice just my 2 cents anyway.
Cheers Joe

[blownba]

Wow. Didn't this turn out to be a bit of a 5hit fight???

[pongo]

Wow. Didn't this turn out to be a bit of a 5hit fight???

lol your a noob, its always this fun around here, esp in an election year

[blownba]

So I should stick around then???

I would like to say also that all the other forums I am part of have no problems with you slagging a company if they have done something 5hit.
You should take a look at this: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=63603

You will quite clearly see that there is over 10 pages of various people bagging this one certain company.
Why is it you can't do it on here???
Is it cause one of the moderators is mates with the guy who's company is involved???

I don't know what the go is but if a company has done wrong they should be shamed.

[RUFF]

So I should stick around then???

I would like to say also that all the other forums I am part of have no problems with you slagging a company if they have done something 5hit.
You should take a look at this: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=63603

You will quite clearly see that there is over 10 pages of various people bagging this one certain company.
Why is it you can't do it on here???
Is it cause one of the moderators is mates with the guy who's company is involved???

I don't know what the go is but if a company has done wrong they should be shamed.

Well i guess if you dont like the way this site is being run then i guess not. But that is totally up to you. This isnt all the other forums your on. As for one of the moderators knowing this company i wouldnt have a clue as even i have no idea who this company was as the name was removed before i was pointed in the direction of this thread by another member of this board that is not a moderator.

You will quite clearly see that there is over 10 pages of various people bagging this one certain company.
Why is it you can't do it on here???

Because this is my forum and i say you can not. I think i have quite clearly stated this.

[joe crothers]

pongo stop posting stupid pictures and go 4wding you might find its fun!!!!!