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converting 75series to coils?

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converting 75series to coils?

Post by hzj75 »

Just wondering what is the easiest way to convert a 75 series (ute) to coils springs

Ive read some people use a 80 series chassis and others just use 80 series diffs, which way is more effective and the cheapest??????
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Post by Cruza62 »

To save yourself the trouble of changing chasis i would go coil-overs, they have a smaller diameter than most coils so they can fit in tighter spots
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Post by Thommo 73 »

im using 75 diffs with rangie arms/coil hats atm.....probley the cheapest way.
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Post by bushwalker »

i got a 80 series chassis and am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track :armsup: and allows you to swap your lockers straight over
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Post by bushwalker »

i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track :armsup: and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
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Post by professor »

I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

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Post by midi73 »

bushwalker wrote:i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track :armsup: and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
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Post by Shadow »

midi73 wrote:
bushwalker wrote:i got a 80 series chassis and diffs am going to cut coilly bit off that chassis and weld onto mine prob more expensive but give you a wider track :armsup: and allows you to swap your lockers straight over. cost all depends on what skills you have welding and the like
Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
sounds like a challenge
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
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Post by Shadow »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
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Post by dogbreath_48 »

Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
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Post by midi73 »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
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Post by 75 cruser »

professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

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chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff

im feeling the 75s are on a come back

:D :D

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Post by midi73 »

75 cruser wrote:
professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

Chad

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff

im feeling the 75s are on a come back

:D :D

rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
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Post by Shadow »

midi73 wrote:
75 cruser wrote:
professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

Chad

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff

im feeling the 75s are on a come back

:D :D

rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
i thaught 100 series rear diff is virtually the same aswell?
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Post by bushwalker »

my cruiser is a 92 and the locker no.s from arb match 75 and 80 series but i will find out soon for sure. the only 75's with the different centre to my knowledge where the early ones with the 2h ever since then they have been simular if not the same, thats the case with the three i've had anywayz 88, 98, 92 go the 75's :armsup: :lol:
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Post by midi73 »

Shadow wrote:
midi73 wrote:
75 cruser wrote:
professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

Chad

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
chad put the coilovers front and rear in my truck and im more than happy with them, the truck drove better than when it had the leave springs in it, and going to the 80 series diffs you pick up a better track in the bush, the 75 diffs are to narrow and the truck will want to crab all the time on ruts in the bush, also going to 80 diffs you pick up bigger cvs and a stronger rear diff

im feeling the 75s are on a come back

:D :D

rob
75 and 80 rear diffs are exactly the same except for the bearings that bolt it in. So strength is the same. I have an 80 centre in the rear of my middy.
100 rear centres though, now that is another story.
i thaught 100 series rear diff is virtually the same aswell?
No, much bigger and stronger. They are 4.3 ratio and have a different spline, cant remember the count. I think they are a bigger axle at the spline as well but cant remember for sure.
The front is the same as an 80 except that it is 4.3 ratio.
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Post by professor »

dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!

now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
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Post by mac1cruz »

professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

Chad

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
Gday Chad just curious on what a rough estimate in dollars would be to do the conversion you did on Robs 75 parts/time?
Cheers Azza

Long live the 75 series :D
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Post by cloughy »

midi73 wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong :armsup:
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Post by Evil 73 »

Just thought i'd post up some pics of my 73 series on a 80 series chassi and obviously 80 diffs, the only thing that is different than the standard 80 suspension is the upper control arms have been removed and replaced with a "A" frame and the coils have been removed and replaced with coilovers and in the front a smoothie shock.

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Post by midi73 »

cloughy wrote:
midi73 wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote: I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong :armsup:
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
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Post by cloughy »

midi73 wrote:
cloughy wrote:
midi73 wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote: they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong :armsup:
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
professor wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
midi73 wrote: Wont be able to swap front locker from 75 to 80
I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!

now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
I used to think they all had the big diff to :oops:

But looking under Bushwalkers, proved that theory wrong, apparently all 1HZ 75s had high pinion front
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Post by midi73 »

cloughy wrote:
midi73 wrote:
cloughy wrote:
midi73 wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote: No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
Nope, only the coiled ones did.
Wrong :armsup:
No worries, I can be corrected, fill us all in on what is right then please.
professor wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote:
Shadow wrote:
dogbreath_48 wrote: I think later model 75's you can - i think they run the smaller front diff.
they also had coils ^_^
No, 78's and 79's had coils. But i thought later 75's (1993-1997?) had a smaller front diff.
you are correct!

now back to the best option for the 75 with coils
I used to think they all had the big diff to :oops:

But looking under Bushwalkers, proved that theory wrong, apparently all 1HZ 75s had high pinion front
Ok. Thank you for that correction. I will store that one in the old memory bank.
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Post by cloughy »

Thommo 73 wrote:im using 75 diffs with rangie arms/coil hats atm.....probley the cheapest way.
How much did the Rangie arms etc cost you??

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Post by professor »

mac1cruz wrote:
professor wrote:I have done a kit for Rob the cashie we used coilovers and run the standard 75 chassis with 80 series diffs turned out 100% a good rig allround.

Chad

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... 2&start=90
Gday Chad just curious on what a rough estimate in dollars would be to do the conversion you did on Robs 75 parts/time?
Cheers Azza

Long live the 75 series :D
Azza its hard to estimate but in a round figure the basic setup 4 link coilovers hoops mounts x member and xlink is around $10k not including exhaust mods brake lines and cables.

I'm heaps keen on doing some more 75's I'v even thought of doing a 75 the same and using it as my tow rig/tourer. it makes a farm truck worth driving :armsup: :armsup: sorry Rob :lol:

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Post by Thommo 73 »

pretty cheap cloughy. as well as the chassis that i cut up to boot.

i'll be back if i need spares!.
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Post by bushwalker »

so can i straight swap my 80 rear centre over with my 75 or do i have to swap bearings over on the crownwheel?
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Post by hzj75 »

can someone give me a rough idea as to how much a 80 series chassis is worth (less body of course..)???
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Post by bubs »

hzj75 wrote:can someone give me a rough idea as to how much a 80 series chassis is worth (less body of course..)???
Chassis, with suspension components and axles, no engine or gearbox

Expect to pay up to $2000.

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