Gen4 into a Hilux

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:40 pm

Well, I got a brand New Hilux 4L V6, 4WD dual cab.

Now this afternoon I was at the Holden Dealership wondering Around, and I saw that the new 6L V8 gen4's are selling for only $4,000.

I have been looking at supercharging my current V6 which will cost me $10,000.

Does anyone know what will need to be done too make this fit? Like transimission, would I need a new one? Drive train? and to physically make it fit?

Thanks

Post by **albey** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:45 pm

Only question that should be asked is why would you even think of it!!!!

Post by **brentz** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:52 pm

theres a guy with a lux that does outback challange that has a ls1 in one i think?
but would have to put way stronger driveline in like outta landcruiser and might as well go coil as well while ya at it

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:55 pm

Question is why wouldnt you? Its costing me $10,000 if I want to supercharge it...

Post by **ausyota** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:35 pm

Do it!

The bigest problems you will have is
1. Keeping the thing cool. V8s in Luxs are notorius for overheating. You will probably need to run a rear mounted rad to cool it enough.
2. Keeping the gearbox and diffs from grenading from all the extra power.

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:38 pm

How much would you reckon it cost? Anyone got an Idea?

Who would I see if I wanted to do this legally? Engineer? or what?

Post by **Lux_89** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:45 pm

oh and why a brand new hilux.. if itsa lready got the v6 they go alright, and the new hilux isnt really a decent 4wd. so second question why do you want the power?

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:53 pm

For on the road... I got a decent 4wd, older diesel hilux...

Post by **Lux_89** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:58 pm

yeh but gen four? thats alot of power that could be put to waste. what do you intend on doing with it other than'driving'

Post by **Shadow** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:03 pm

turbo your v6

would be a shitload cheaper. Would think a shop could do it drive in/out for 5k

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:06 pm

You think putting a Turbo in it would be only 5G?

Anyone know of any that would suit it?

Supercharging it would give it about 420 HP I think. How much should a turbo add?

Post by **Shadow** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:11 pm

hiluxhardcore wrote:You think putting a Turbo in it would be only 5G?

Anyone know of any that would suit it?

Supercharging it would give it about 420 HP I think. How much should a turbo add?

the same, The only advantage a supercharger has is that the boost is there right through the rev range.

A shop will turbo a NA skyline for 5k drive in/out. Thats with an aftermarket computer turbo, all plumbing and a big frontmount.

Yours will be a custom manifold, so might be a bit dearer actually, mayb 6k?

Some shops would take the job just as a matter of interest.

Post by **Sic Lux** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:05 pm

Or just buy a ricer but it'd be way cooler to have turbo/twin turbo V6 lux

Post by **jsttry** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:35 pm

They talking the L76 or L92? The L76 from the VZ SS was an ugly duckling as it was the only model the motor was fitted to, the 6L in the HSV and VE models is different again. not sure if it will fit a newer model however you need to consider does that $4k include PCM and wiring loom and all accessories? Also consider the cost to engineer it all once done.

Post by **hiluxhardcore** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 11:43 pm

Im not sure what It includes, I was just looking around and the guy said they have been selling a shit load for $4000...

Thats why im here, trying to find out how much all the other crap will cost me...

Post by **jsttry** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:44 pm

and that's where I'm saying you need to find what is included in that $4k

Post by **batcho101** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:53 pm

you'd be very hard pressed to have the conversion done for 10 grand, for starters you'd need new gearbox, stronger transfer case, bigger diffs, custom shafts, mounts, wiring , engineering, cooling, fuel system, etc i would bet a turbo conversion would be cheaper easier to engineer and that way power is more controllable instead of being there all the time and breaking stuff
just my 2cents

Post by **cammo01** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:33 pm

i just posted in the other topic about my brother in laws 80 series conversion (gen 3 (ls1) into a 80 series) , not sure how you would go with the smaller luxy but, the driveline isnt as strong and smaller engine bay, the gen 4 wil eat the box and diff if its driven hard, either way (turbo 6 or v8) you will have to change boxes and diff if you want over 400hp , well personally thats what i would do, the 8 would hve a shitload more torque tho, and btw we did my brother in laws conversion for under 6 g's and IMHO the gen 4 would be a MUCH better alternative to the turboed 6 as you will have higher reliability problems to say the least, plus not as much torque, feel, sound..... give marks a call and see what they can do for you, HTH mate

Post by **cammo01** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:35 pm

Sic Lux wrote:Or just buy a ricer but it'd be way cooler to have turbo/twin turbo V6 lux

pffft for a pussy that cant handle a real MANs car (aka v8) it would be a perfect option..... hehehe sorry no offense i just think that the sound is worth it for the v8, the sound so dang good!

Post by **cammo01** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:38 pm

oh and also forgot you get a new wiring loom that plugs into the old one so you will need that along with the ECU and fusebox for the gen 4 , and exaust is a bitch too (have no idea what the lux is like but if it is anything like a landy bay then it will be a custom job) , HTH

Post by **chunderlicious** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:54 pm

gearbox will be the biggest concern unless you have an R150 etc. from the supras and the like. turbos are nice, but can be a hard to handle offroad when too powerful or the power comes on too quick etc. talk to some of the guys who run them in comps and stuff....

the V8 will be costly no matter which one you use. but if you do the turbo setup mostly yourself it will be quite cheap in comparison. the hilux rear diff will be fine, just take spare axles with you like you would take cvs. and get a locker for the centre and maybe run 4.3s instead of 4.8s

Post by **cammo01** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:31 pm

chunderlicious wrote:gearbox will be the biggest concern unless you have an R150 etc. from the supras and the like. turbos are nice, but can be a hard to handle offroad when too powerful or the power comes on too quick etc. talk to some of the guys who run them in comps and stuff....

the V8 will be costly no matter which one you use. but if you do the turbo setup mostly yourself it will be quite cheap in comparison. the hilux rear diff will be fine, just take spare axles with you like you would take cvs. and get a locker for the centre and maybe run 4.3s instead of 4.8s

actually mate to be honest i would say the ls1 (or ls2) would actually be the cheaper option (especially if done all yourself, its a bit of a no brainer with the right conversion kit) , just keep a decent oil (as you probably already would) in the diffs and transmission and i woud suggest not dumping the clutch or doin burny's or stuff of the like... and she will be fine, plus as stated before they sound better and feel better etc etc....

Post by **chunderlicious** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:38 pm

cammo01 wrote:
chunderlicious wrote:gearbox will be the biggest concern unless you have an R150 etc. from the supras and the like. turbos are nice, but can be a hard to handle offroad when too powerful or the power comes on too quick etc. talk to some of the guys who run them in comps and stuff....

the V8 will be costly no matter which one you use. but if you do the turbo setup mostly yourself it will be quite cheap in comparison. the hilux rear diff will be fine, just take spare axles with you like you would take cvs. and get a locker for the centre and maybe run 4.3s instead of 4.8s

actually mate to be honest i would say the ls1 (or ls2) would actually be the cheaper option (especially if done all yourself, its a bit of a no brainer with the right conversion kit) , just keep a decent oil (as you probably already would) in the diffs and transmission and i woud suggest not dumping the clutch or doin burny's or stuff of the like... and she will be fine, plus as stated before they sound better and feel better etc etc....

but come on now, maybe its because im still young but who doesnt dump the clutch? i do it in a NA diesel patrol wagon.

Post by **cammo01** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:50 pm

chunderlicious wrote:
cammo01 wrote:
chunderlicious wrote:gearbox will be the biggest concern unless you have an R150 etc. from the supras and the like. turbos are nice, but can be a hard to handle offroad when too powerful or the power comes on too quick etc. talk to some of the guys who run them in comps and stuff....

the V8 will be costly no matter which one you use. but if you do the turbo setup mostly yourself it will be quite cheap in comparison. the hilux rear diff will be fine, just take spare axles with you like you would take cvs. and get a locker for the centre and maybe run 4.3s instead of 4.8s

actually mate to be honest i would say the ls1 (or ls2) would actually be the cheaper option (especially if done all yourself, its a bit of a no brainer with the right conversion kit) , just keep a decent oil (as you probably already would) in the diffs and transmission and i woud suggest not dumping the clutch or doin burny's or stuff of the like... and she will be fine, plus as stated before they sound better and feel better etc etc....
but come on now, maybe its because im still young but who doesnt dump the clutch? i do it in a NA diesel patrol wagon.

hehe so true! i just mean like high rev dumping in excessiveness (if that is even a word) , basically dont let your 16 yr old learner daughter drive it.....lol

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