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Disc brake rear???

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Disc brake rear???

Post by want33s »

I've searched but can't find much. I am sick of replacing rear brake shoes every two months or so. I want disc's....
I have heard the Pintara(R31 Skyline) rear calipers will work but what discs did people use? Pics too if possible please.
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Post by nicbeer »

stock rears on the back and vits up front. see my members profile.

i still have to install a prop valve still because of rear steer under brakes but i will do that soon.

My kit is almost the same as the spidertrax kit, out of allow.

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Post by want33s »

Thanks Nicbeer. I checked your build thread and found one pic relating to brakes. Image
Not much help really. I WANT A HANDBRAKE.
What disc did you use?
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Post by 11_evl »

where would u get one of those hub plates from??
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Post by want33s »

11_evl wrote:where would u get one of those hub plates from??
Dunno if I'll need them yet but if I do I'll get them water jet cut by CADCAM at my local engineering shop.
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Post by nicbeer »

PM roctoy on here. he was going to make some up same as these.

handbrake i have is the std NT drum item. works ok for me.

disc is a std 1.3 sierra disc.

11_evil - there is a alloy bracket behind the spacer plate to omunt the caliper onto and the hub spacer u could make one out of a set of old drums.

Thanks

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Post by want33s »

This is the Pintara setup I'm looking at. Calipers take a handbrake cable and the bracket bolts to the axle tube under the backing plate. Discs may even be redrillable!
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Post by PJ.zook »

I used sierra rotors and old skool mazda 323 calipers on the rear. Didnt need to use a prop valve either, came out nicely balanced. I do notice that i chew through the pads on the rear tho.
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Post by want33s »

PJ.zook wrote:I used sierra rotors and old skool mazda 323 calipers on the rear. Didnt need to use a prop valve either, came out nicely balanced. I do notice that i chew through the pads on the rear tho.
Are the calipers you used off the front or rear of a 323?
I'm guessing front as you said "old skool"[sic].
Do they have an integrated handbrake? or do you have it on the transfer?
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Post by 11_evl »

n13 pulsar rears is an option i guess, pretty sure hand brake is internal!!
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Post by mr green »

how has that kit been advertised, was it a sierra brake kit or pintara? obviously the discs have not been on a sierra but i was wondering what the caliper mounting plates were off. after market sierra or a lucky oem find. i too am looking at disc rear & vented front so when the time comes i'll be going pintara/ skyline aswell
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Post by Danzo »

is there any chance that anyone know if the handbrake is internal for sure and can be used with the sierra handbrake lines? Any help would be apreciated as I already have the vit fronts in mine and my old fronts are just sitting there but I didnt want to change to the transfer hand brake (clearence reasons)
11_evl wrote:n13 pulsar rears is an option i guess, pretty sure hand brake is internal!!
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Post by lay80n »

Danzo wrote:is there any chance that anyone know if the handbrake is internal for sure and can be used with the sierra handbrake lines? Any help would be apreciated as I already have the vit fronts in mine and my old fronts are just sitting there but I didnt want to change to the transfer hand brake (clearence reasons)
11_evl wrote:n13 pulsar rears is an option i guess, pretty sure hand brake is internal!!

Yep, N13 rear calipers have an integrated hand brake,.

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Post by want33s »

mr green wrote:how has that kit been advertised, was it a sierra brake kit or pintara? obviously the discs have not been on a sierra but i was wondering what the caliper mounting plates were off. after market sierra or a lucky oem find. i too am looking at disc rear & vented front so when the time comes i'll be going pintara/ skyline aswell
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Post by Danzo »

lay80n wrote:
Danzo wrote:is there any chance that anyone know if the handbrake is internal for sure and can be used with the sierra handbrake lines? Any help would be apreciated as I already have the vit fronts in mine and my old fronts are just sitting there but I didnt want to change to the transfer hand brake (clearence reasons)
11_evl wrote:n13 pulsar rears is an option i guess, pretty sure hand brake is internal!!

Yep, N13 rear calipers have an integrated hand brake,.

Layto....
so for the conversion I can use my old front discs and the n13 rear calipers, but now for the mount?
Should I get someone who knows what they are doing to make the mount or is it a simple plate with the holes in the correct place? or should I see if I can just buy the adaptor plates from a kit?
sorry for the hijack But I am sick of drum rears
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Post by Gutless »

I made my own to suit Magna cable over hydraulic rear calipers.

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Post by Goatse.AJ »

I presume you'd have to get a rear-disc setup engineered? Anybody had any issues?
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Post by Danzo »

yeah it does require a mod plate of sorts
so it should be discused with an engineer
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Post by want33s »

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I got the discs, calipers, hoses and mounting brackets for $20... :D
I'll try to remember to take pics and notes as I go through the fitting process. ;)
Pintara discs are the same min & max thickness as Sierra so I shouldn't have any probs with pads falling out when worn.
I have already tried the hoses and the thread on the suzi hard lines screws straight in :D AND being rear calipers I SHOULDN'T?? need a proportioning valve. Will see I guess.
Should keep me busy over Xmas ;)
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Post by MART »

Hey gutless , your brake caliper mount can not be welded , must be a one piece bracket because I had similiar sort of setup , but had to change it for engineering , Cheers Paul.
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Post by Gutless »

MART wrote:Hey gutless , your brake caliper mount can not be welded , must be a one piece bracket because I had similiar sort of setup , but had to change it for engineering , Cheers Paul.
Cool thanks.

I have spoken to an engineer on this already and I may have to get them x-rayed to keep him happy. If not then I use these as a template and I'll mill some from ally billet. ( was just being lazy doing it in steel :oops: )
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Post by jtraf »

I used pintara/skyline rear brake calipers as they have handbrake intergrated.

Some 10mm plate shaped with bearing cutout holds caliper and bearing in place.

Machines the orginal brake drums down to hold an orginal sierra front disk.....I also used the wheel studs from the pintare as they are the same thread only longer which you need when installing disk over the orginal drum as the studs are too short...

Will get some pics for you if interested.

Work fine...
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Post by want33s »

jtraf wrote:I used pintara/skyline rear brake calipers as they have handbrake intergrated.

Some 10mm plate shaped with bearing cutout holds caliper and bearing in place.

Machines the orginal brake drums down to hold an orginal sierra front disk.....I also used the wheel studs from the pintare as they are the same thread only longer which you need when installing disk over the orginal drum as the studs are too short...

Will get some pics for you if interested.

Work fine...
Pics would be awesome.. Thanks. :D
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