Notice: We request that you don't just set up a new account at this time if you are a previous user.
If you used to be one of our moderators, please feel free to reach out to Chris via the facebook Outerlimits4x4 group and he will get you set back up with access should he need you.
Recovery:If you cannot access your old email address and don't remember your password, please click here to log a change of email address so you can do a password reset.

Ebay Inverter mig welder

General Tech Talk

Moderators: toaddog, TWISTY, V8Patrol, Moderators

Post Reply
Posts: 363
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:04 pm
Location: On the loud pedal

Ebay Inverter mig welder

Post by sanger »

Hey all i'm looking at buying a mig welder and i've come across this little unit on ebay that i should be able to get for no more than $700 +$80 postage.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 3DWatching

Seller has 100% feedback and sold over 400 items so he must be doing something right.

My question is has anyone purchased or used this particular welder? If so how does it weld?

Cheers Sanger
Hardcore Wheelin' www.ozwheelers.net
- 94 Zuki - Lux diffs, SPOA, twin locked, 35's, 1.5" wheel spacers, exo, series 4 rockhoppers
Posts: 1889
Joined: Mon Sep 20, 2004 10:23 pm
Location: Brisbane

Post by just cruizin' »

First impressions are that I don't like the way the wire is left open. If you don't use it often it will get covered in crap and if you weld near it and it get sparks on the wire it would feed properly and will stick in the lead. I saw a thread a while ago with another inverter mig that was similar in price but looked like a normal larger style trolley mig

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-INVERTER-MIG ... dZViewItem
;)
Posts: 128
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:48 pm
Location: MINCHINBURY

Post by ROVERNIT »

Are tip universal fit?
Posts: 721
Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:01 pm
Location: on top of a large pile of rocks

Post by AFeral »

the companys may have 100% positive feed back. They will often have same feed back posted several times. Feedback can only be left for 90 days. How many of those welders go bang after 91 ??? when feed back cannot be left.
then again take unimig and unitig welders. iddentical welders par colour, are avliable from china. So i wonder where they get theres from. there unit preform very well.
sorry i'm not of any help but maybe some food for thought.
Anything is possible, it just comes down to time and money.
Ferals build www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic164570.php
Posts: 363
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:04 pm
Location: On the loud pedal

Post by sanger »

i rang the guy who sells them and hes been in the welding trade over 10 years. He backs the unit with full 1 year warrenty and told me that consumables are universal (tips etc). Only down side is that it cant be used for flux core (handy for outside in the wind) as u cannot swap polarity.

As for the lack of cover over the wire spool i seemed to of missed this detail. Thanks for the heads up. i will have to have a think if its worth buying and making a cover for it.
Hardcore Wheelin' www.ozwheelers.net
- 94 Zuki - Lux diffs, SPOA, twin locked, 35's, 1.5" wheel spacers, exo, series 4 rockhoppers
Posts: 310
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 12:16 am
Location: at the shed gympie

Post by scuba steve 22 »

Sanger wrote:
As for the lack of cover over the wire spool i seemed to of missed this detail. Thanks for the heads up. i will have to have a think if its worth buying and making a cover for it.
just cut the flaps off the box the wire came in and cut two slots in the sides so it can slide over the roll.
have done this before and it works all right

cheers Steve
Posts: 363
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:04 pm
Location: On the loud pedal

Post by sanger »

Cheers scuba steve nice simple solution. i like it :armsup:
Hardcore Wheelin' www.ozwheelers.net
- 94 Zuki - Lux diffs, SPOA, twin locked, 35's, 1.5" wheel spacers, exo, series 4 rockhoppers
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:16 pm
Location: Melb

Post by GoQuik »

You'd think with a nice new mig, you'd booty fab a cover up. :lol:
Posts: 709
Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:49 pm
Location: campbelltown

Post by Mousie »

i got a cigweld transmig 200 for 1100 and its fucking fantastic its the ducks nuts i reccon had no problems with wire feeding ever... works wonders
R.A.G, Ruff As Gutts 4x4 club :P
http://www.rag4x4.com/
Posts: 310
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 12:16 am
Location: at the shed gympie

Post by scuba steve 22 »

Goquick wrote:You'd think with a nice new MiG, you'd booty fab a cover up. :lol:
:lol: KISS technology
we were doing it with the shitters @ work :armsup:
but it works and you get yourself a new one each time you change rolls if you want

cheers Steve
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:16 pm
Location: Melb

Post by GoQuik »

Scroll halfway down this page
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/NEW-INDUSTRIAL-G ... dZViewItem
and check out the front panel. The orange light is for "Over Hearting". Isn't that sweet? :lol:
God of Magnificant Ideas!
Posts: 6774
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:22 am
Location: Balls Deep

Post by V8Patrol »

A little more insight for you......

I know Helen & Graeme personally (the eBay sellers known as ghanglobalimports ) and I can safely say that they are both honest people in life as well as an ebay seller.

Graeme is indeed "in the trade" and does stainless TIG welding for a major company, he and his familly are as local as it gets having been in the area for 3 or 4 generations...... buying from him is not an issue & the 12month warranty he offers is concrete.

I've seen what has come back and its either one of two things
1/ faulty electronic part or failure of the board in general, Graeme carries spare parts to fix the simple breakdowns but replaces the entire unit should the problem be of a bigger issue.
NB: a general board failure is found usually before the unit leaves his place.... as he said to me if it works here then it wont miss a beat once it's delivered

2/ user mistake ..... like the DC inverter welder that was returned after it fell into a horse trough ! ..... & fully replaced under the warranty !
:armsup:


I bought a DC inverter from him less than 6 months ago and have a couple of other items aswell from him too .... still waiting on my new extra long tig torch but ;)


As for the Mig itself..... I've used one of these and as a home handy mans unit they are a good buy & are capable of a good penetration weld on material up to 5mm by a 'learner welder'.
There are however 2 down sides to these units, the first being the exposed wire spool & the 2nd being the increadibly short earth lead.

The wire spool can be covered fairly easily when the unit is stored but in 'work mode' I found that sparks from the grinder managed to contaminate the actual wire being so exposed..... long term storage is also an issue in that the wire will .... I repeat WILL.... become rusty on its surface.
The only real way of fixing the problem is to make a steel cover from some 1.6mm sheet and fix it to the unit thus sheilding the spool and giving a good rotection from both natures and the w/shops enviroments.

The short earth lead is a real pain in the left testicle.... right one too for that matter !!!
The mains power lead is longer :shock:
A quick trip to the local autopro shop ( or other automotive store ) and a replacement length to one better suited will fix the problem for around the $70 mark.... ( heavy duty earth lead for a car/truck is as good as you'll need .... dont buy the std earth lead tho, not flexiable enough & generaly wont handle the job well ).

The short leads are common on 99.99999% of the China imported welders, be they mig earth leads, tig earth leads, plasma earth leads, or both the work and earth lead on the DC inverter welders......

As I said at the start, I've got one of Graemes "Firewelder" DC inverter welder..... first and only mod it has had is the dumping of both leads and new long ones fitted in their place...... other than that.....

Cant fault it or ghanglobalimports


Kingy
[color=blue][size=150][b]And your cry-baby, whinyassed opinion would be.....? [/b][/size][/color]
Posts: 93
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:33 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast

Post by GT60 »

A piece of lightweight leather or denim works well in covering the wire spool in this kind of system also helps to clean light surface rust from wire, just need to attach it somehow.
Posts: 363
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 3:04 pm
Location: On the loud pedal

Post by sanger »

V8Patrol you have a pm.
Hardcore Wheelin' www.ozwheelers.net
- 94 Zuki - Lux diffs, SPOA, twin locked, 35's, 1.5" wheel spacers, exo, series 4 rockhoppers
Tickle me!
Posts: 3824
Joined: Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:25 pm

Post by toaddog »

GT60 wrote:A piece of lightweight leather or denim works well in covering the wire spool in this kind of system also helps to clean light surface rust from wire, just need to attach it somehow.
what about a small piece of emery cloth wrapped around the wire before it goes into the feed tube.
2008 Patrol wagon and 99 Patrol TD Ute
Cairns
God of Magnificant Ideas!
Posts: 6774
Joined: Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:22 am
Location: Balls Deep

Post by V8Patrol »

Rusting wire isnt generally an issue except in some enviroments, generally its the long term storage that becomes the issue when rust and other comtaminates get onto the wire.

We can all do the simple task of removing the spool & storing it away in a dry and contaminate free container for those long periods when the welder is not in use, the reality however is that it will simply be left out in the elements.


My first welder ( 160amp ac peerles) had a handle that was an ideal height for a pigmy, first job for that welder was to make a new handle and include hooks on which to hang the leads onto.
My big SAF welder is that heavy it couldnt be moved by 2 blokes.... first thing it welded up was a trolley to sit on so it could be moved around the shed with ease.
My Unimig had a weak bottle restraint ( I use the big gas bottles only ) so its first job was to make a more suitable bottle rack.
My tig's first job was to make up a cover that protected the unit better so I could place other tools ontop of it and I included a storage area for the plasma/ tig leads when not in use.
My little inverter DC tig's first job was to weld up a cast hub for my dad... It didnt need anything made for it except new leads!

You buy a welder with an exposed spool...... then job number 1 should be to make a steel slipon cover for the spool

Kingy
[color=blue][size=150][b]And your cry-baby, whinyassed opinion would be.....? [/b][/size][/color]
Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 127 guests