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Post by stilivn »

Scored a set of 8 inch lift custom king springs an was wondering what sort of trouble i should expect running into when fitting them. What will i need to do to my truck to get it running good.
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Post by evo wagon »

yoy will need adjustable panards front and rear, castor correction plates, long brake lines, long diff breathers, tailshaft spacers, bigger tyres so it doesnnt look out of place, long travel shocks. as for fitting them just undo the lower shock mount and let the diff drop down till the spring is loose and replace it
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Post by vSAHARAx »

Part time kit, will need tail shaft work on the front, dont know about the rear, maybe gearbox spacers, also i would go Drop arms over castor plates simple reason even with the plates your castor will be way out with 8" coils, and the fact that the drag link will hit standard radius arms on flex. im not sure what mods you will have to do to steering. I think it will be alot of work and alot of $$$

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Post by udm »

8" :shock: ... is your rig the one on the avatar?
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Post by stilivn »

If you mean me than yeah thats my rig, standard at moment
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Post by sloshy »

They where cheap for a reason, from an offroad point of view I think they are to big. But if you just want it for looks you will have to spend alot of money just to get it to handle half decent, not to mention DOT.

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Post by whiteghost60 »

you will also need to get adjustable rear trailing upper and lower because when you put those spring in and put vehicle weight on it the springs will look like banana's they will bow because your lower trailing arms won't be lo9ng enough to compensate for the length of those spring's as well as everything else thats been mentioned
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Post by udm »

stilivn wrote:If you mean me than yeah thats my rig, standard at moment but got the coils for 100 buck so figured why not.
we are not trying to bag your new springs, but, they will only work if you got the whole lot, ie, tyres, custom links, high steer, etc.
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Post by DGS4WD »

8inch lift! Can't wait to see pictures!

With the shocks, whats the longest currently avaible? Iv got 29.5's pro comps for my 6inch lift. not to sure how much longer you can get.

Caster correction and drive line angles is going to be your biggest problem... Have fun and keep us informed.
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Post by stilivn »

Rancho make the rs9000xl closed height 537mm and open 918mm so thats 36" open an bout 21 inch closed, that might be bit too big, might have to go next size down, gotta save some cash but, gonna dig a bit of a whole in my pocket by sounds of things.
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Post by love ke70 »

but but but
8" lift
all the tierod ends and the ones on the draglink etc, are all gonna be nearly maxed out, so that will limit flex big time. unless you can drop it all down to correct the angles.

i think your getting yourself in for some headaches
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Post by Sic Lux »

Honestly i think sell the coils cut your loss and do 3-4in spring if it still isn't high enough go 2in body. 8in from stock is a big step up. Half know a bloke with 6in coils in his and 35's and tyres still look a little small to match the lift he runs
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Post by ats4x4dotcom »

6" is about it, before tie rods bind, and everything ends up FUBAR, not to mention how poorly the vehicle will drive.

Budget around $6000 to try and get it sorted to drive with those coils.

3-4 " lift budget less than half that, and fit 35's or even 37's with some fender clearance work.

8" will drive you nuts just getting in, unless your 7' 4"
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Post by taps »

I have 7" and they are too tall, awsome flex off road but a pain, in a daily driver. I would go 5" coils (make them captive) and run long shocks, all off the shelf "easy".
Those long coils are going to be a bastard to fit !!!!!
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Post by sniper »

8" will not be able to be engineered in NSW. You have to be up to 1200mm to your headlight. Me with 6" springs and 36`s brings me to 1205mm.

Like everyone said your steering will be flogged out, no way to get castor without flipping your arms or new raius arms.
Just a quick run down for you

raduis arms =$1400
panhard rods x2 = $440
procomp shocks (eg.) = $500
ext brake lines = $120
rear lower control arms = $380
rear upper control arms = $380
hi-steer = $1000

this is just a quick run down of what I think you would need minimum for this lift. All fitted yourself.
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Post by unbreakable »

If you plan on driving it on the road, watch out for the transport boys!
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Post by NQCalais »

unbreakable wrote:If you plan on driving it on the road, watch out for the transport boys!
From that height he should be able to see them from a looong way off......
Unfortunately they'll also be able to pick him out from the same distance... :D
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Post by bj on roids »

just bung the springs in! :cool:
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Post by frp88 »

If you 80 is stock with 35 or 36 and 8 inch lift it will be nearly 10 inch lift :shock: on the road it would be nightmare but if you don't care about drive ability then go for it .
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Post by crankycruiser »

i have 7" in mine.. and lookin back now it was a bit of a head ache, as usual one mod creates 4 more!

U will need

High steer
Flip arm
shocks
part time kit
sway bar extensions
brake lines
big tyres (which if bigger than 37" u really need 4.88 gears)
BIG offset wheels, so it stays on its wheels


The high steer and the flip arm (or snake arms) are a must

these are just a few of the things i have had to do to mine to keep it drivin nicely
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Post by guzzla »

Id do it if you have heaps of money as you will need it the first time you have an accident cos your insurance company will just laugh at you while you pay for everything.

There are very few people who run that much lift and swear by it 100%. most say they would go 4-6in max as thats what works best over all with minimum spend to get it working not to mention legal.
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Post by stilivn »

Cheers guys, might keep the springs an see if i ever win the loto ':lol:'
For now i'll look at saving for a 4 inch an some tires.
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